Author Topic: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (Read 15270047 times)

ronotte · « **Reply #10365 on:** February 01, 2012, 06:05:11 PM »

Hi harti,

using kacher powered to 18V @0.7A I obtained only a 'red filament' condition from my 240V/60W lamp... Nice fact is that best output when good Trumpet waveform.
Using neon sign electronic dimmerable source (Ventex) at his minimum 6KV output @35KHz (20W input at 120V home rail) I have had better output, more light but far, very far from any OU. Anyway I've not been able to duplicate the effort shown by Wesley in his previous or last videoclip.
At least for the moment I'm not going to make videoclip as I've problems with my video camera.

Regards

Roberto

ronotte · « **Reply #10366 on:** February 01, 2012, 06:12:15 PM »

@wattsup,
thank you a lot for your considerations, while studying what written, I urge you to see last 'schematic ver.2' released by Wesley: THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL SECONDARY. THE ONLY ONE SECONDARY IS REFERRED TO GND; no connection either between the TBC's secondary and pickup coil center tap. I do not know the why of that. Wesley, please clarify that point

Thanks
Roberto

Note: I have tried to feed back in several ways the center tap connection to the kacher in order to try to establish a positive reaction so possibly extending the diverging trumpet...up to now without success: the circuit quit or changes only a little his operatimg point.

Magluvin · « **Reply #10367 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:12:19 PM »

The feed back wire shown in the more recent drawings is more likely to help C2 charge faster than with Avramenko alone. The feed back wire is connected to the other end of the flyback transformers secondary and has a path to C2 through the capacitance of the output transformers windings.

If someone will, disconnect the transformer from the circuit and measure the capacitance between the primary(caduceus) coil and the secondary. Some builders will have different capacitance here, depending on how closely they follow the prescribed way. This may affect the outcome.

It may be possible to replace using the output transformer as a capacitor for this purpose, with a HV cap and go direct to the primary(caduceus) side from the secondary of the flyback.. Then we have the capability of changing the value of that capacitance easier than modifying the coils to do so.

I think I explained it earlier and shown a vid of the same effect with an AV plug and an ignition coil, using the can of the ign coil as part of the capacitive circuit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR3WmK3qrws

Being that the spark gap near c2 is a broken path, the feed back wire more likely gives more of a half wave rectifying effect. So 1 of those 2 diodes is working harder than the other.

Mags

forest · « **Reply #10368 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:20:31 PM »

wattsup is right, we need more info of flyback circuit, especially inductance of primary/secondary and capacitance connected to primary. Unfortunately we can't measure the length of secondary to compare to frequency put into primary.Can we ?? This is the question I 've always asking. I have a few flybacks most of them sealed type with diode and the ability to know length of wire in secondary would be very useful.

I suspect that here flyback is driven according to Don Smith criteria ; resonance of LCR on primary and resonance with 1/4 wavelength on secondary. The same secret is visible in delamorto last video of self-running circuit powering 60W bulb with custom-made katcher device.

wattsup · « **Reply #10369 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:30:57 PM »

Quote from: ronotte on February 01, 2012, 06:12:15 PM

@wattsup,
thank you a lot for your considerations, while studying what written, I urge you to see last 'schematic ver.2' released by Wesley: THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL SECONDARY. THE ONLY ONE SECONDARY IS REFERRED TO GND; no connection either between the TBC's secondary and pickup coil center tap. I do not know the why of that. Wesley, please clarify that point
Thanks
Roberto

Note: I have tried to feed back in several ways the center tap connection to the kacher in order to try to establish a positive reaction so possibly extending the diverging trumpet...up to now without success: the circuit quit or changes only a little his operatimg point.

@ronotte

Yes I know about that one but it does not work. I will only believe if I can see it work. What that circuit is asking of the HV is to produce both the positive and negative power transfer (voltage and amperage) only via the HV+ to the CC then to the load side. No way will that work so I don't really know why such circuits are produced and posted. For me, the only real circuit out there is the original one when @stivep was visiting and as our only real on site witness of the event, I have total confidence in @stiveps video of that event. If something works one way, why the heck would you even consider another way until everyone has replicated the first way. If they would have done my test on day one, you would have had 100s of guys making their own flybacks with an SFC by now and we would not be at this stage today. For some unknown reason it seems like this one question is always diverted, but why I don't know.

I will now remove my present flyback (since I do not want to alter it) and work towards a good analog to the TBC110 as now I have tested enough other ways to see that this is the last way I have not tried yet. We will see soon enough.

Maybe on your Katcher coil, consider adding a third coil over the mini-Tesla coil. Maybe a little thicker wire and at least 20 turns with a tap at every 5 turns would give you Open-5T-tap1-5T-tap2-5T-tap3-5T-Open. Then put your HV- from the mini-Tesla to the open end of the 20T and put the other side of that to your CC center tap. Then add a small capacitor on Tap 1 and 2 or 2 and 3. You will have to try it from each side of the new coil to see which is the best polarity match. Then add a ferrite core in the center of the Katcher and see what happens. That would be a quick way for Katchers to test the TBC110 set-up.

Actually, the Yoke builds could be tested this way as well. The 50T can be the primary, the 150T is the HV and the 15T is the SFC. Maybe not the right turn mix or coil/core positioning but still a good way to test for any weird effects. Ideally though with a yoke, the coils would have to be wound centered over the gaps but still, at least you can test the coiling as they are now.

wattsup

John M · « **Reply #10370 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:32:07 PM »

Quote from: ronotte on February 01, 2012, 01:12:09 PM

- Caduceus inductance @1KHz L = 0.3uH (!!)
- Caduceus resistance @1KHz R = 0.0 Ohm

Driving the Caduceus (Wavetek sin generator Z0=50 Ohm) with 1K resistor in series gives no resonance till at least the 20MHz Wavetek capability. Putting the Caduceus in the operating mode by inserting the Ferrite rods (4stick x 0.9cm x 20cm) and using a tank cap = 800pf gives a perfect resonance at 3.54MHz. This is not coherent if using any TBC as source but make sense if referred for example to my kacher tailored (1/4 wave) to work at 3.1MHz.

Roberto - Good information on your post. The Caduceus will have some inductance including lead wires, and it does increase with addition of the Ferrite. A Ferrite Rod by itself will have inductance across it which also varies with the frequency applied. It seems to me that we may be dealing with a Ferroresonce effect on the replications which is notable when the ferrite starts to audibly vibrate if the frequency is low enough frequency. I thought that in some replications this was noticeable. In this effect there is a point at which the frequency reaches its highest point where the ouput suddenly drops. I don't know if anyone has experienced this with their replication. This is just my opinion for what its worth.
John

ronotte · « **Reply #10371 on:** February 01, 2012, 09:02:43 PM »

@John,
yes, my system using kacher DOES generate often strong mechanical vibrations from Ferrites (200Hz - 5KHz range) either inside the Caduceus OR also inside the kacher itself. WHEN THAT HAPPENS THERE IS A STRONG INCREASE OF OUTPUT 1KV SPIKES REPETITION RATE. I generally avoid to maintain that condition fearing bad consequences

@watsup,
"Maybe on your Katcher coil, consider adding a third coil over the mini-Tesla coil. Maybe a little thicker wire and at least 20 turns with a tap at every 5 turns would give you Open-5T-tap1-5T-tap2-5T-tap3-5T-Open. Then put your HV- from the mini-Tesla to the open end of the 20T and put the other side of that to your CC center tap. Then add a small capacitor on Tap 1 and 2 or 2 and 3. You will have to try it from each side of the new coil to see which is the best polarity match. Then add a ferrite core in the center of the Katcher and see what happens. That would be a quick way for Katchers to test the TBC110 set-up."

I am actually working in a way different from what you suggested. Anyway that's an interesting TBC's simulation so I'm going to implement it. Thanks.

P.S. why don't you go for a simple kacher solution? This could allow to confront directly the results.

Roberto

aether22 · « **Reply #10372 on:** February 01, 2012, 09:17:06 PM »

Roberto, great results!

I think one important thing is to test what is happening when you get the concave divergent trumpet.
Is the Caduceus coil tank circuit (which I now understand IS resonant at or about the ramp frequency with ferrite and cap) oscillating actively with current?

This is an important question, the other possibility is that it is just a static capacitive reading.

So if it is a circulating current, then it will be easy to show this with a pickup coil, the orientation of this pickup coil would change magnetic inductance but not electric field capacitance.
numbers of turns and electrostatic shielding can also be employed to further discriminate between the 2 possibilities.

Wattsup: For what it's worth (I don't know your belief system) the extra coil on the flyback can be doing 2 things, first the aether is moved by currents through time varying coils and by electric fields, if you have 2 different waves of aether collide (from 2 coils) you create an energized condition in the aether, that could be happening here. This is how the Hutchison effect works. Secondly I believe under the right conditions for electromagnetic fields to couple from one part of a circuit to another with little concern for distance and those extra coils might create flux better able to project.

baroutologos · « **Reply #10373 on:** February 01, 2012, 09:22:30 PM »

Quote from: hartiberlin on February 01, 2012, 05:00:46 PM

Hi Ghazanfar_Ali,

how do you do the feedback circuit to run it
just on a charged capacitor ?
...
Regards, Stefan.

I think, he subtly implied, that the initially charged capacitor is not obvious discharged and lasted a week, rather than oscillates the current back and forth towards the LC component (which in turn kicks it back by some means), somehow skyrocketing the voltage (when mosfets closed), while a tiny current pass through the inc. lamp thus (in theory) producing power.

Bear in mind stefan, hypothetically such a OU system as depicted has its amp meters showing AC high frequency current and of weird wave shapes rather than DC. If you just sum all currents you would see the current that oscillates back and forth through MOSFETs ( stage 1 through drain, stage 2 through diode -reversed-) and bulb is equal to initial capacitor's thus the law of charge preservation is not violated.
What remains to be seen is the violation of law of Energy In = out... interesting and amusing go on...

T-1000 · « **Reply #10374 on:** February 01, 2012, 10:23:40 PM »

@ronotte the diagram you got obviosly has not full connections in Ð¢Ð’Ð¡-110Ð›Ð
The attached diagram has correct version.
Due much concerns about Ð¢Ð’Ð¡-110Ð›Ð, I need you to pay attention about it having LC resonant circuit attached in series to "cold" HV coil end. This is where you get exciter/katcher functionality.

Mr. N. Tesla always had two stages of power amplification:
1) In the step up transformer
2) In his Tesla Coil.

@watssup
Ð¢Ð’Ð¡-110Ð›Ð is not a must and any step up transformer with resonant LC circuit(on natual frequency or its harmonics) would do the job.

The one thing different from comventional approach is - we use Tesla coil primary/secondary interwindings stray capacitance as output for HV transformer. This is where you get load not affecting input.

P.S> It is good to see trumpet wave replicated, now the hardest bit is left... The energy harvesting without killing resonant circuit oscillations

Good luck!

forest · « **Reply #10375 on:** February 01, 2012, 10:31:32 PM »

Quote from: baroutologos on February 01, 2012, 09:22:30 PM

I think, he subtly implied, that the initially charged capacitor is not obvious discharged and lasted a week, rather than oscillates the current back and forth towards the LC component (which in turn kicks it back by some means), somehow skyrocketing the voltage (when mosfets closed), while a tiny current pass through the inc. lamp thus (in theory) producing power.

Bear in mind stefan, hypothetically such a OU system as depicted has its amp meters showing AC high frequency current and of weird wave shapes rather than DC. If you just sum all currents you would see the current that oscillates back and forth through MOSFETs ( stage 1 through drain, stage 2 through diode -reversed-) and bulb is equal to initial capacitor's thus the law of charge preservation is not violated.
What remains to be seen is the violation of law of Energy In = out... interesting and amusing go on...

I think energy is being created in two cases: first when there is parametric resonance (trumped exponential waveform?), second when resonant tank circuit is oscillating without looses,without damping. Time will show if it is creation through tapping external source of energy using open circuit or we just have wrong comprehension of energy usage ! For example light can be produced very efficiently using phosphorescence effect and resonant tank circuit as opposed to incandescent filament.

FreeEnergyInfo · « **Reply #10376 on:** February 02, 2012, 12:37:10 AM »

NEW KAPANADZE VIDEO ....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADr1lT9MeIE

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hartiberlin · « **Reply #10377 on:** February 02, 2012, 02:13:16 AM »

I made a backup copy of this new release video from 2004 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4X5zy0piSg

This seems to be an older video from 2004 where the single parts still can be seen quite well.

I am spotting a transformer behind the coil with a graetz fullwave rectifier bridge and 2 black chokes.

What is inside this round box with the switch on the top is still a secret to me...

Maybe some additional coils ?

Interesting is that he has a sparkgap running between the 5 winding secondary output coil and the primary coil of the Tesla coil type...

Hmm...

stivep · « **Reply #10378 on:** February 02, 2012, 02:17:04 AM »

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author=skaarj link=topic=7679.msg311260#msg311260 date=1328111819
Look... it's LIGHT!!!
(later edit: a 40 Watts bulb full light, f*ck EU - stupid laws, no more 100W and 200W bulbs allowed for sale, they do not want any of us to experiment anything)

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Now, if you look more carefully, you will see that the bulb is connected to the 220V socket in the wall, and not to the yoke. Because I did not manage to repeat your experiment, but I believe in you and your work and I do not want to give up.

I would like to make this happen for real, and not for a bad joke.

I respect that

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So Mr. Wesley, you have ignored my posts on this topic and I understand you are very busy, but now that I got your attention, please tell me - the secondary winding (150 turns, two wires together) - is it a CADUCEUS or a normal double wire winding?

No I never Ignore anyone.
I have got trapped between me being able to provide communication with others and me being able to work
There is not enough 24H day to respond to everyone.

Windings are
15
50
150 bifilar one end of double wire connected to the begening of the second one. The two ends remaining is the output to light bulb.
But.
Never count on that.
Every ferrite from yoke is different
Everyone has different characteristic.
Frequency response might be over 2MHz at that point problem is limitation of generators.
With the time ferrite might change its own ferroresonant response.
I'm not a guru.
I'm regular human being.Never better than you. Everyone has its own value.
Advice:
I have purchased my generators from Ebay.
For the price of one generator used in first experiment one can get 2 generators
HP or any other .
example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250770321874?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648#ht_1962wt_923

New one could cost you $1200- $1500
One good that comes from you collecting equipment is knowledge and tools to progress.
When the time comes You will be in the army of first who will benefit on your education

That day might be very close.
That is what I did.
I have start 2 years ago digging for equipment.
Ebay is so educational.
I have more that 10 generators and every one has different unique futures.
YOU WILL FIND THAT YOU NEED 1 OSCILLOSCOPE BUT ARMY OF GENERATORS.
Some of them are 40 years old and still better than new one for given application .

One of good things that you have in that small generator is ability to carve signal to desired shape.

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I have all the equipment: 3 signals generators and the spectrum analyzer - 1xPCSU1000 and 3xPCGU1000. It has not been easy for me to buy them. I also have 4 yokes, as following:
first from left - from a Stassfurt T205 made around 1965 in germany;
second from left - from a Temp 7M
third (down side of picture) - from a Rubin 102
4th (right side) with windings - from some 21" video monitor.

Do you think for me it was easy to buy my equipment?
I'm not rich.
But I put every money I could into that and I found one very good answer.

I HAVE LEARN HOW TO BUY
I HAVE LEARN HOW TO BARGAIN FOR THE BEST PRICE AND HOW TO CHECK IF THERE IS NO CHEAPER ONE.
I FOUND THE SCAM ON EBAY... never buy( unless you have no choice) device that has 2-20 bids on it and there is still 1 or 5 days left to the end of auction The guy is ("most likely")

using multiple accounts to fool you creating artificial traffic of non existing bidders
Click on number of bids (left button) and it will get you to checkup. If you see 3-100% activity of bider to this seller ("most likely")

it is a scam.

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I wrote the drivers and a program using Unix BSD, a little of C/C++ and many nights with no sleep, to auto-tune two of the PCGU1000 to the frequencies where the voltage at the "two wire secondary coil" will be maximum, with the light connected. All possible combinations of amplitudes, wave forms, pre-defined and also from libraries, also for square the duty cycle was between 1% and 99%. All measured data was recorded in MySQL databases. The test was performed like this:

1. it took me 1 week (7 days) on the Rubin-102 yoke and 1 week on the 21" monitor yoke, with signals sent to the yokes via Field Effect Transistors. (later edit:) Electricity for transistors was +12V from a PC ATX power supply.

2. 1 week on the Rubin-102 and 1 week on the 21" yokes with DIRECT connection to the yokes.

Data was stored in around 300 MBytes of compressed MySQL database.

After 4 weeks I had all the data (frequency, wave form, amplitude).
Many combinations made a little light, but the most strong I managed to make on the Rubin-102 coil at 450Hz base frequency (50 turn coil) and at around 3700kHz on the modulating coil (15 turn) by using Field Effect Transistors, both signals SQUARE, both 50% duty cycles.

No sparks yet, I have to build some additional circuits, I am afraid to burn the generators - US$1500 is a lot of money for me. I want to repeat the 150 watt experiment, that one where you still did not discover the need for spark. Please help.

All of the information is in this forum or energetic forum. I suggest to myself that if I was to start from nothing I would fallow instruction published step by step and try to see what was pointed there.

I can not advice you to do anything legally.

My legal statement must be never play with it.

You should understand why.. world is full of sharks.

That was us who spend money dedicated to our families to give something to others.
I have seen on project in Lithuania that when we introduced spark that we have had immediate results.

Aidas damaged his generator doing that.

There is one more mysterious moment.. unexplained headache. That one was reported for the first time by Aidas. Than in Lithuania All of 5 people experienced the same.

One of very good generators that I have is Wavetek 166 and Wavetek 193
Each of them has its own disadvantages.
There are analog generators and there is no stable level voltage when you sweep.
Generator HP 811A has stable voltage while sweeping. But it does not have ability to create ramp impulse with horizontal remaining part of square at the bottom without bias.
Every time I have purchased new device It was a pain. With the time I found that equipment I have acquired is easy to sale for much more that I have paid for it. ( only previously used one)
The longer I have it the better I understand how to use it.

Once you get into this you will find that many things you have had problem with is easy with the time.

Caduceus concept is different from yoke.
But.
even if there are many ways to Washington there is only one mechanism that is responsible for desired phenomena.

Major difference is that in yoke we used NMR as explanation
In caduceus we used spark speed of transition as explanation.

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Later edit - sorry, I do not want many posts with little things: added one more picture with flyback transformers. From left: Stassfurt T205 transformer, second: the old and strong TBC-110L (a new, unused one, some Ñ†Ð¸Ð³aHcKÐ¸ tried to destroy it long time ago) and at right side - two Rubin-102 TBC-b.NIO.449001 from Rubin-102. I will have to try all of them.

Heaving Flyback is important. It is not easy item to get. Specially one without diode immersed in plastic.

I have spend a lot of money for it.

Old TV ( very old) is the answer.

Just pick them from the street.

UNDERSTAND PLEASE .. NOTHING YOU DID IS WASTE OF MONEY..
It will payoff with the big profit when the day comes.

Wesley

hartiberlin · « **Reply #10379 on:** February 02, 2012, 02:43:53 AM »

Can somebody who understand this language please post a summary about what this guy says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX8_8QkbBKQ

Many thanks.

Regads, Stefan.

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