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Author Topic: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"  (Read 105510 times)

Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #225 on: October 22, 2009, 09:04:39 AM »
Hoax!

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
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Offline Hugo Chavez

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #226 on: October 23, 2009, 11:54:18 AM »
don't want to get into this again, shocked this thread is still going.  But it was a hoax imo.  I've also seen the video copied so for some seeing it, there is no reveal and they will waste time. A lesson would have had the reveal/answer/lesson at the end.  He went to lengths in the video to pass it off as real and didn't reveal for some time.  That turned it into a hoax even if he had teaching a lesson to people in mind.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #227 on: October 23, 2009, 12:50:06 PM »
@Sterling,
Actually it wasnt a Hoax more of a lesson. When I wrote to him privately suggesting what he had done is was very open and honest about it. This was when it first appeared. Kudos to him as it was a teaching exercise. I am sad it took so long for so many people to learn the lesson.
It is always interesting to study human behaviour here, I think thats why I keep comming back. There are some very smart people here, but sadly a few not so smart who believe anything as they want to believe.
I will stick to my scientific rules and methodology, it has served well over the years.
Kind Regards
Mark
PS I am still testing devices and working with a few inventors still...there is always hope.
Mark

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #227 on: October 23, 2009, 12:50:06 PM »
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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #228 on: October 23, 2009, 11:26:07 PM »
Hoax!

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #229 on: October 24, 2009, 03:37:52 AM »
@markdansie
Quote:
"It is always interesting to study human behaviour here, I think thats why I keep comming back. There are some very smart people here, but sadly a few not so smart who believe anything as they want to believe.
I will stick to my scientific rules and methodology, it has served well over the years."
I would agree to some extent but there are exceptions I think. If a person saw a hoax and believed it, tried to replicate it and found a new unknown effect directly related to the hoax then was it a hoax?. I did not believe the dual pendulum oscillator scheme but when I actually built it I found two pendulums on a lever with a central point of rotation produce a beat note between them on the central lever. This beat note on the lever is cyclic and at one frequency corresponding to the beat note the outer pendulums rotate and countermotions disappear and the lever spins freely. So was or is it a hoax if results indifferent or not are produced? Hoax or not I think we can find inspiration anywhere if we look, but you have to look first.
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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #229 on: October 24, 2009, 03:37:52 AM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #230 on: October 24, 2009, 04:48:58 AM »
The real joke is that the reveal itself is a hoax.  It's a hoax sitting on top of a hoax.

There is something very sobering and ironic in all of this.  First you hoax people.  And then you do a reveal that itself is a hoax, where you are ostensibly giving yourself back your credibility as a classicist, and all of the doubters are pleased to see that they were right and the believers do a doubletake.  But you are really testing people a second time - a doublecross - and now everybody is hoaxed.

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Offline Hugo Chavez

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #231 on: October 24, 2009, 05:17:12 AM »
@Sterling,
Actually it wasnt a Hoax more of a lesson. When I wrote to him privately suggesting what he had done is was very open and honest about it. This was when it first appeared. Kudos to him as it was a teaching exercise. I am sad it took so long for so many people to learn the lesson.
It is always interesting to study human behaviour here, I think thats why I keep comming back. There are some very smart people here, but sadly a few not so smart who believe anything as they want to believe.
I will stick to my scientific rules and methodology, it has served well over the years.
Kind Regards
Mark
PS I am still testing devices and working with a few inventors still...there is always hope.
Mark
did he tell you about the lies he left in his comment section to lead people to believe it was absolutely legit?  He then removed his own comment when he made his reveal.  He led people to believe there was no trickery and something to do with the coil configuration that made it work.  Now if it was a lesson, you would be given the correct set of factors from the start.  Once you introduce lies... well...  It became another lesson that was meant to teach people they could be suckered.  Those lessons are a penny a dozen on the net and this was just one of those.  a hoax meant to teach that lesson, a lesson we don't need any more of, thanks.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #231 on: October 24, 2009, 05:17:12 AM »
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Offline markdansie

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #232 on: October 24, 2009, 07:12:46 AM »
@Hugo
you make a good point, I guess I have to agree to a large extent. There are many Hoaxes, too many, and many more self delusional. I do admire the many who continue to reaseach and explore the boundries but are grounded enough to really know what their results demonstrate.
Kind Regards
Mark

 

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