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Mk1

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2009, 01:42:23 AM »
@Newbie


http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/electromag/java/faraday/index.html

Introduction to the kick , look what happens when you close and open the  circuit.

Mark

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« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2009, 06:14:34 AM »
@Newbie


http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/electromag/java/faraday/index.html

Introduction to the kick , look what happens when you close and open the  circuit.

Mark

lol 

love it !!

ist   

what a proof...  awesome ....  children of the night.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5cOJjlyh7w

newbie123

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2009, 06:23:18 AM »
IF that is  the TPU "kick"  ..   I think it's safe to say it's a well known phenomena, and probably not OU ...   Unless there is something wrong with Faraday's law of induction.


Mk1

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2009, 06:47:36 AM »
@newbie

Keep sleeping ...


You are not going to make money here .


The truth is hidden in plain site...

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« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2009, 06:55:50 AM »

You are not going to make money here .


I'm not here in an attempt to make money.  No matter how you look at it there definitely is "no money" here, or in OU (if it exists).

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The truth is hidden in plain site...
But I'm not going to play BS games with anyone, or piss up a rope..


Where would the extra energy come from in a "kick"? .. Do you really think the energy stored in a inductor is "free energy"?   

If you put a "surge" (amps)  into an inductor or xformer ..  you get back a "kick" (voltage) .. But the energy is the exact same minus losses. 

Am I missing something?

 



« Last Edit: June 26, 2009, 07:43:03 AM by newbie123 »

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« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2009, 08:13:52 AM »
Hello all,

@Farah Day,

you dont understand the problem in a TPU:

we must be able to "dissipate" the excess energy that we have in a TPU. If not, the TPU would be  destroyed in a few mintes. And this IS the reason of so much patents.The heat in a TPU is not because of the load. Its because of the construction of the TPU.

Please, dont even mention a mains socket. We are working on something totally different.

Learning is NOT asking questions but working a lot.

@newbie 123

not so a long time ago I lighted a 100W bulb with only 60W or less from the power supply. SO WHAT??
I DID IT WRONG, so I even dont have a schematic or drawing how I connected my coils. This "overunity" was a piece of s..t!

@All

I cant understand the newbies here! Youre all asking questions but nobody wants dirty and burned fingers. Is this the way to build your TPU??

Let me tell you something:

Im amost 40 years in electronics. I NEVER had to build and test any coil.
When I started my TPU adventure I started from ZERO.

After a lot of wound coils, after thousands of tests I made the ECD TPU.

I used every information that SM gave us. And forget that he misleaded us or such a crap. He gave us very good informations - if you know how to use them.

The last 2? years or more? I had NO free weekend, no free vacation, no BEER!! .....and I really love beer!

And now you want informations!!

I GAVE YOU THE BEST INFORMATIONS YOU EVER SAW ON THIS THREAD!

To be honest, this informations are even NOT for the people on this forum!
I gave them for 2 real TPU builders that are not anymore posting here but I have the information that they are still working on the TPU problem and both are fantastic people. But I thought why no to post my informations here....maybe somebody else would pick them up and use.....ha! It seems that I was wrong.

Now, if you want dirty and burned fingers here you go:

read first my ECD pdf (dont ask where it is, I dont know it)
make a... say....10 turns collector ( with LAMP WIRE!) with a diameter of 15" and connect it to your oscillators and to a bulb. Like described in the ECD pdf.
In this way you can understand the circumference of a TPU and the frequency inside the collector. Of course, when you have pulsed this 10 turns, you have to cut such a collector so you have 9 turns, then 8 turns....

I think you have a lot to do.

Otto








Farrah Day

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« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2009, 09:23:09 AM »
Otto, so I take it that you're not going to share anything that you have done or discovered.

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you dont understand the problem in a TPU:

we must be able to "dissipate" the excess energy that we have in a TPU. If not, the TPU would be  destroyed in a few mintes. And this IS the reason of so much patents.The heat in a TPU is not because of the load. Its because of the construction of the TPU.

So does your TPU heat up even without a load?  Simple question!

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I cant understand the newbies here! Youre all asking questions but nobody wants dirty and burned fingers. Is this the way to build your TPU??

I'm personally asking questions in order to gain as much information as possible before I go into experimenting and prototyping.

Why would I start a blind build when - supposedly - you guys are way ahead of me and should therefore have a wealth of information to share?

There appears to be absolutely no team work or collaboration going on here. People who say they have built TPUs seem more than happy to keep the details to themselves, nothing is shared and there is no straight, plain talking, just incoherent babblings.

And don't think that I'm in a minority with my thoughts here - there will be many intelligent people looking in that are thinking exactly the same thing.

otto

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2009, 09:39:23 AM »
Hello all,

@Farah Day

Im still building my TPU. As its a little bit complex I cant jump out like an idiot and mislead the people. First I have to see whats going on in my TPU with my eyes and then I can talk about how to do it.

No heat in this moment. Thats veeeery bad. Simple answer.

Trust me, there was NOTHING to share in the past because they ALL missed one of the most important informations SM gave: the core.

Otto


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« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2009, 09:51:40 AM »
Otto, so I take it that you're not going to share anything that you have done or discovered.
>:( >:( >:(
see here all the documents that Otto give to us:

http://www.purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/otto/

http://www.purco.qc.ca/ftp/Overunity.com%20-%20Forum%20members/otto/a-pdfs/



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« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2009, 10:20:42 AM »
Otto, so I take it that you're not going to share anything that you have done or discovered.

So does your TPU heat up even without a load?  Simple question!

I'm personally asking questions in order to gain as much information as possible before I go into experimenting and prototyping.

Why would I start a blind build when - supposedly - you guys are way ahead of me and should therefore have a wealth of information to share?

There appears to be absolutely no team work or collaboration going on here. People who say they have built TPUs seem more than happy to keep the details to themselves, nothing is shared and there is no straight, plain talking, just incoherent babblings.

And don't think that I'm in a minority with my thoughts here - there will be many intelligent people looking in that are thinking exactly the same thing.


the best would be you got finished and ready to make results so that it is not so much pain for you. Right? What if you read some of Teslas patents, the big inspiration of SM and otto and all the other experimenters, and do your own experiments?

If you can not help, for what you are then here?

otto

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« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2009, 10:33:07 AM »
Hello all,

@wings

thanks for the link, I didnt know that somebody cares about my work.

@rensseak

 Oh, yes, Tesla the big man from my little country, with his resonant coils, his cores inside the coils, his way to pulse this coils......isnt it much easier today? Even easier then when SM was working on his TPUs??

We have a lot types of MOSFETs. They all work in a different way. No? Of course they do.

Otto

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« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2009, 11:22:33 AM »

Why would I start a blind build when - supposedly - you guys are way ahead of me and should therefore have a wealth of information to share?


You just want to take the easy way , like most people :)
The problem is: There is no easy way.  :D

Pherhaps is best not to try to get info from people becuase much of them do not have the time or simply don't want to get involved in too long disccussion which lead nowhere, or they simply don't have anything to offer, or in the worst case tell you wrong things!.
Instead, use the info available, there is lots of it.
It once was my starting point too, after i realized you can theorize forever.

M.

Farrah Day

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« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2009, 11:40:20 AM »
Agreed M, it can be all too easy to sit back in your chair and get in a rut of forever theorising - which I guess is what most people here are continually doing.

However, that's not what I'm about.  The way I see it is there are many parts to this puzzle, and the more pieces I can set in place before I start the practical work, the less pieces I have to find.  Of course I first have to try to pick out and discard the pieces that are alien to this puzzle.

No more than common sense really.



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« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2009, 11:56:17 AM »

However, that's not what I'm about. 


Then you are in the wrong place, as this is theorist heaven.
M.

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« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2009, 05:07:58 PM »
Then you are in the wrong place, as this is theorist heaven.
M.


With the attitudes you guys have...  i.e.  "I know how to make a TPU w/  FE!       But I'm not sharing it with anyone!"    seriously makes me question your character and motives..       I mean...  What are you guys even doing here on this site?    Are you just trolling?    Trying to look 'cool' and brag?  Or  scavenging for some new information?  I don't know...


The fact you guys won't even elaborate on a "kick" or admit that it might just be a  well known phenomena makes me wonder about you all...    And SM as well..    He said the kick was in fact OU...   But so far I'm led to believe that is BS.

Do you guys think the "kick" is the key to the TPU?