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BEP

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #105 on: August 05, 2009, 12:24:25 AM »
what if something was retriggering it?

"Something" as in a signal outside the TV but in the room?

"It" as in the AFC (automatic frequency control - for those unfamiliar)?

Such a signal can get into the TV any number of ways but I suspect the path was through the power cord. Since the inverter was likely ungrounded any filtering there would have failed.
I'm quite sure that model inverter did not have an electrostatic shield in the transformer.

Since we can be quite sure an unloaded TPU has a high frequency and spiky output when unloaded we can assume such a signal would propagate to the load, in addition to the switching noise from the inverter. (It was not the best design and the inverter would appear as an inductive load.)

So, with all that bunk in-mind...  I can imagine a weakly loaded TPU causing video signal interference.
I'm on the road so I can't review my stored audio analysis so my question is -- Was the TV shown running from house power while near the TPU? Did it show the same or similar interference during that time? Was there an additional noise when the TV was connected?
The reason I can't solidly agree with this interference being 180kHz is I know any number of frequencies can cause this. It all depends upon the path the interference took in the TV.

If the path was through the power cord then, yes. Why? Because part of that TV process looks at line frequency to process the display.

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #106 on: August 05, 2009, 02:35:28 PM »
@MARCO

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 FIND BOOKS AND LEARN SOMETHING AND YOU WHILL KNOW WHAT IS THAT

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #107 on: August 05, 2009, 03:17:08 PM »
you are the one that has to start BY LEARNING ENGLISH.

And don't ask me things i do not owe you anything fool.

ha ha ha ha ha

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #108 on: August 05, 2009, 04:33:07 PM »
@MARCO  IM LEARNING AND I KNOW ENGLISH  AND TWO MORE LANGUEGE

AND IM BETER THEN YOU

turbo

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #109 on: August 05, 2009, 04:57:13 PM »
See you are doing it again.....and you keep doing it.

How can you say you are better?
You do not even know me.

You *THINK* you know me.

Big mistake.

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Re: TPU Clues - Gyroscopic effect
« Reply #110 on: August 06, 2009, 07:25:18 PM »
I have seen and felt the gyroscopic effect, and it is related to propulsion devices.  Imagine a resonating magnetic field of high intensity and current flow due to an external driving magnetic field, you move the coil a bit , like left and right , or angle it back and forth, and you feel a force similar to a gyroscopic force, why? It's that relative motion of the conductor intersecting and reacting with it's own created near field.  I held a device in my hand and it shivered and recoiled quite the same as a gyroscope

EM


The claimed gyroscopic effect has to be the most mysterious of all the TPU effects.  What could cause this?  The only thing I can think of is free electrons moving in circles (as mentioned by Loner in another thread).   This is the most likely explanation since moving fields do not have mass (a key ingredient to gyroscopic effects).     Also,  I think it would be safe to assume the rotational frequency of these electrons is 7.3 hz around the TPU..

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #111 on: August 06, 2009, 07:39:15 PM »
When you drop a magnet of enough strength and dimension, the magnet will act like a falling cat. Always trying to land on its feet. The feet will swap positions depending upon the hemisphere where it is dropped.

This 'self-righting' fits with the gyroscopic effect claimed for a TPU. If they are related then the magnetic polar axis of a TPU is vertical, as seen with the TPU lying on a table. The only thing missing is relative motion to the Earth. That should be handled with rotation.

Just a thought while mobile  :)

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #112 on: August 06, 2009, 08:26:36 PM »
When you drop a magnet of enough strength and dimension, the magnet will act like a falling cat. Always trying to land on its feet. The feet will swap positions depending upon the hemisphere where it is dropped.

This 'self-righting' fits with the gyroscopic effect claimed for a TPU. If they are related then the magnetic polar axis of a TPU is vertical, as seen with the TPU lying on a table. The only thing missing is relative motion to the Earth. That should be handled with rotation.

Just a thought while mobile  :)

and the only thing rotating is the changing state of the field - not the field itself - not electrons - not ions.  Particles flow in the "collector" only after current is induced into it.

all currents involve something changing in position or magnitude in relation to something static or changing at a different rate.

Look at the spherics info and he states that two copper rods will also collect conventional current.

What sort of current can induce current to flow in both a closed and open circuit?


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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #113 on: August 07, 2009, 12:19:35 AM »
I think you are right, we just need to rotate a higher or lower field density around a ring track, or nullify the local field (which could be a powerful magnet too) in a same way.

Can we talk about current flow in an open circuit ?

If the open path of a conduction current will not permit ions to pass, then the current must convert to carrierless current to traverse the dielectric.  This convertion does not occur without a dipole (or a gradient?) across the separated metal objects. 

Carrierless currents also produce a magnetic field which can induce conventional current in a coil.  This may be multipolar or different in some other way - not sure yet.

So, the current rotating in a TPU must be a carrierless current, if we conclude that conventional current and magentic fields can not induce electron drift in an open circuit.

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #114 on: August 07, 2009, 02:58:20 AM »
Carrier less current? Are you referring to the plasma state ? If not, You lost me.  :)

Sure, open path currents,like a spark/plasma between two metal objects, or in a spark gap oscillator, will produce magnetic fields, which can induce currents in a coil.

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innovation_station

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #115 on: August 07, 2009, 03:08:13 AM »
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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #116 on: August 07, 2009, 03:40:17 AM »
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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #117 on: August 07, 2009, 04:11:14 AM »
This gets more and more interesting all the time.

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #118 on: August 07, 2009, 09:30:09 AM »
Carrier less current? Are you referring to the plasma state ? If not, You lost me.  :)

Sure, open path currents,like a spark/plasma between two metal objects, or in a spark gap oscillator, will produce magnetic fields, which can induce currents in a coil.

Spark and plasma involve "carriers" of charge.  The "carriers" are the electrons, and other ions.  This is "convection current".

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Re: TPU Clues
« Reply #119 on: August 07, 2009, 06:37:36 PM »
Enlighten me please! What is the carrier less current?

I know there is a difference between conductive and convective current (moving ions in gas, fluids), but what is carrier less current?

Maxwell summed all forms of "carrierless" current under the term "displacement current".  Others have since separated "polarization current" from "displacement current".