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Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: Charlie_V on June 19, 2009, 05:40:13 AM
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So I ran into this patent presented by magnetic power inc. Its several years old, nothing seems to be happening with it either. My question is has anyone tried to build what is in the patent and what were the results? I can't find any posts on here where people tried to build the patent. I don't think it would be hard and the working principle is rather clever.
This website will take you to the pdf download of the patent.
http://magneticpowerinc.com/patent.html
If any of you guys know of people who tried this, I'd like to know what the results were. I'm guessing it doesn't work since no one is using the device.
Thanks,
Charlie
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So I ran into this patent presented by magnetic power inc. Its several years old, nothing seems to be happening with it either. My question is has anyone tried to build what is in the patent and what were the results? I can't find any posts on here where people tried to build the patent. I don't think it would be hard and the working principle is rather clever.
This website will take you to the pdf download of the patent.
http://magneticpowerinc.com/patent.html
If any of you guys know of people who tried this, I'd like to know what the results were. I'm guessing it doesn't work since no one is using the device.
Thanks,
Charlie
There is a considerable write-up from Patrick K here:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter3.pdf
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That article is interesting but all is given is the explanation of how it works. I was looking more toward people trying to replicate the device and test it. I'm guessing no one has done that?
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MPI is now Chava Energy. LLC
http://chavaenergy.com/
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This generator is still in development. The published application, we learned after it was published, cannot exceed unity. However, another filing is planned that is expected to do so. The lab work has not been completed and probably will not be for another few months.
This is not easily reproduced. It requires expensive materials and difficult processing that needs costly equipment.
No other information will be provided as the work is proprietary.
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This generator is still in development. The published application, we learned after it was published, cannot exceed unity. However, another filing is planned that is expected to do so. The lab work has not been completed and probably will not be for another few months.
This is not easily reproduced. It requires expensive materials and difficult processing that needs costly equipment.
No other information will be provided as the work is proprietary.
Hello Mark,
Any comment on Chava Energy?
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The website: www.chavaenergy.com provides a good introduction.
There are now about 30 individuals involved, in several countries, most of them technical.
Work on the room temperature Ultraconductors(tm) is coming back to life, at long last.
Under the heading HOW? on the website are brief descriptions of the technologies presently under development.
Recent additions include a Self Powered Internal Combustion Engine - SPICE(tm) fueled by hydrinos.
A barrel of water is the equivalent of several hundred barrels of oil when using hydrinos. This work is at an early stage. More about SPICE and hydrinos is available in the brief descriptions mentioned above.
Watch the website for more information as it becomes available.
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Chava must be funded better than MPI.
The website: www.chavaenergy.com provides a good introduction.
There are now about 30 individuals involved, in several countries, most of them technical.
Work on the room temperature Ultraconductors(tm) is coming back to life, at long last.
Under the heading HOW? on the website are brief descriptions of the technologies presently under development.
Recent additions include a Self Powered Internal Combustion Engine - SPICE(tm) fueled by hydrinos.
A barrel of water is the equivalent of several hundred barrels of oil when using hydrinos. This work is at an early stage. More about SPICE and hydrinos is available in the brief descriptions mentioned above.
Watch the website for more information as it becomes available.
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I built one of those just like the patent in a ferrite ring, but it will not generate as claimed. It seems it still takes the same force to push the magnetic field lines across the conductor whether you use mechanical force or electrical force to do so.
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The prototype device was made with metglas. It cannot be built without expensive equipment, as the holes must be drilled electrically and the locations, etc. are extremely critical.
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The prototype device was made with metglas. It cannot be built without expensive equipment, as the holes must be drilled electrically and the locations, etc. are extremely critical.
Hi Mark , i see your'e still full of shit :D
M.
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Marcos,
Since have stated you are old and fat, and admit your mind isn't working properly anymore, your teeth are falling out, your bones are old, and your eyes are getting bad, ears too...
It is hardly surprising that you cannot recognize a true statement!
::)
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Yeah i know :)
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This generator is still in development. The published application, we learned after it was published, cannot exceed unity. However, another filing is planned that is expected to do so. The lab work has not been completed and probably will not be for another few months.
This is not easily reproduced. It requires expensive materials and difficult processing that needs costly equipment.
No other information will be provided as the work is proprietary.
What you are trying to say, Mark, is "It doesn't work."
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Marco,
The statement about your physical condition is almost a direct quote from one of your own posts on this website. Your memory is obviously also failing. :D
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Tinsel,
If you read my earlier reply it states clearly that a further filing is in the works for the device to exceed unity. The first prototype exceeded unity by a very large margin at extremely low power.
However, developing this particular technology into a commercial product is complex and expensive and other solid-state generators are likely to be in production more rapidly.
Another patent is pending on a different family of generators and several more patent applications are in line.
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Marco,
The statement about your physical condition is almost a direct quote from one of your own posts on this website. Your memory is obviously also failing. :D
Yes :D it is, you are correct.
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Well if one wants yo maintain the good squareloop properties of a nanocrystalline core you better not machine it at all. And if you do, to the very least it has to be re-annealed.
Don't know what properties you are depending on, Hi freq low loss or high freq square loop (both?). But it is tricky to keep these properties intact when you machine cores like 2605 metglas or Finemet Ft3. So I can imagine that such stuff needs to be reprocessed. But even then not all is 'best'. Its a trade off, but you either do that or noting at all.
Can you tell me what core type you use and what specific properties you expect from it?
Thanks!
Kind regards,
Steven
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Steven,
Sorry. That is propritary information.
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Tinsel,
If you read my earlier reply it states clearly that a further filing is in the works for the device to exceed unity. The first prototype exceeded unity by a very large margin at extremely low power.
However, developing this particular technology into a commercial product is complex and expensive and other solid-state generators are likely to be in production more rapidly.
Another patent is pending on a different family of generators and several more patent applications are in line.
Mark, I've read just about everything you've written publicly since 1999, and for some reason it always says pretty much exactly the same thing.
Jam yesterday, jam tomorrow, but no jam today.
And your claim of any excess power from your "first prototype" is just that: a claim, which no one has been able either to verify or replicate.
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Tinsel,
Keep an eye on our Chava website...
Those with a need to visit our labs and have signed a NDA are fully aware of our progress. This is new science and new technology. None of it is simple or easy.
An analog is hot fusion, which after hundreds of billions of $ has had trivial over unity.
This work, and I am not just referring to our firm, has been funded at an absurdly low level world-wide, even though it is far more promising. The surprising fact is that some continue, including yourself, to pursue it.
Fortunately, change is in the wind and practical products are on the horizon. Chances are you will get to enjoy some jam in the not too distant future.
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Mark
Don't worry, your shenanigans are being watched, at higher levels and with more amusement than you might realize. And you are right, I am continually surprised that I myself am involved, at whatever level.
I really do hope you or somebody has something, or will have something, other than the same old rap. But my reality is evidence-based, not theoretical, even though I'm not from Missouri. And if there's any evidence for your claims, I certainly haven't seen it. What I have seen, on the other hand, could be taken as evidence that you don't in fact have what you claim and will never actually have it.
But I do admire your tenacity and I envy the fact that you are able to structure your own destiny, or at least this portion of your path through it.
Too bad Sebastopol has gotten so gentrified. I lived there in the 70's and it was pretty nice then.
--TK
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Tinsel,
Keep an eye on our Chava website...
Those with a need to visit our labs and have signed a NDA are fully aware of our progress. This is new science and new technology. None of it is simple or easy.
An analog is hot fusion, which after hundreds of billions of $ has had trivial over unity.
This work, and I am not just referring to our firm, has been funded at an absurdly low level world-wide, even though it is far more promising. The surprising fact is that some continue, including yourself, to pursue it.
Fortunately, change is in the wind and practical products are on the horizon. Chances are you will get to enjoy some jam in the not too distant future.
The ring device with the drilled mag glass uses a piss-poor core material, which lacks specific properties to succeed in the endeavor. Furthermore, that devices origins are rooted in an anonymous document about "duplication of magnetic fields". So, patent schmatent.
Ride the gilded stallion while you can, Mark, when D-Day comes, your investor will pull in the reins.
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As the website reveals, Chava is developing a variety of magnetic generators as well as other promising technologies.
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Mark, I remember a patent was applied for last year. Has that patent become public? Please share.
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Applications are not public until 18 months after filing. That one went to the PTO last December.
The work is now part of Chava. The website is: www.chavaenergy.com