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Author Topic: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie  (Read 643648 times)

Yucca

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #645 on: July 22, 2009, 02:50:51 AM »
"nobody can suppress your ideals but yourself "

Ha, oddly enough my life is a testament to that.


I'm not so sure that TK wasn't dealing with a male moniker over there.

Among a group of males only a "female" could get by that long without showing something...after all, look how quickly they went at mylow.

Unless something concrete shows up this thread it just another road apple along the path to over unity.

Maybe that mean ol' Stefan will let her/him post over here.

I believe she/he may be only person banned from an internet site before posting a word.

Or could it be that the elusive circuit happened to be in the 'on' mode at the very moment she/he registered, and caused a malfunction at the junction ?

Regards...

You're probably right, it all seems quite Freudian. She seems to offer a bossom that some find irresistable. Of course I could be wrong here lol. :D Anyways, it's all harmless fun at the end of the day. Rock on capz!

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #646 on: July 22, 2009, 03:52:33 AM »
LOL capz, see what I mean, brick walls my friend, brick walls! (all in all they´re just an...other brick in the wall!)

Pray asymatrix provide a reference to this full birth certificare, in fact don´t bother because I couldn´t care less, never voted in my life. Politics... no just BollockTicks lol! I will do as I please like the birds in the trees, I can only recommend that you do the same.

I did. Obama provided the birth certificate, it was examined, protographed, the documents office was contacted, and it's legit. Factcheck.org is a neutral agency. The alarmist posts 'ol Cap seems fond of creating should not be taken as gospel simply because he thinks they should be.

TinselKoala

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #647 on: July 22, 2009, 06:51:41 AM »
@jibbguy: 555 expert, eh? OK, take a look at Aaron's "diagram"--the picture of his circuit with labels at the front of his video. Do you see the 555 timer? Do you see that it is being powered with a 9 volt battery?
Do you see the series resistor in the positive battery lead?

Do you see the value of that resistor? I make it 2.1 or 2.7 kiloOhms.

And that , my dear friends, is the cause of the 555 timer and mosfet oscillations. The 555 is not getting enough voltage to make a nice pulse.
With that resistor out, the circuit is wellbehaved. I even literally set the breadboard ON FIRE with mosfet heat--and the mosfet still works fine.
With that resistor in, I can even get the Philips to lose trigger, and yes, there are some pretty weird waveforms there.

SO that is my tentative explanation for the Aaron oscillations--they are not mosfet-produced in the way that was suggested. They are made by that 555 circuit as it is starved for voltage.

Aaron can test this easily simply by removing that silly resistor and comparing the 555's signal at pin 3 before and after.


Now, for the bad news: I picked up a real score today. I got a DataPulse 101 pulse generator!! And it works!! 5 nanosecond rise time at 10 volts into 50 ohms. And it can make pulses in the tiny fractions of one percent duty cycles. And--when the mosfet sees a truly fine truly short pulse, a very interesting thing happens.

Of course, as I shorten the pulse, the ON part of the trace gets shorter and shorter but the inductive ring stays constant--it comes after the mosfet is off, so isn't affected by the length of the on time. But--when the pulse is so short that the mosfet turn on, the input current goes way down...but the inductive spike still is there. It looks like I can make the pulse so short that the input current almost totally goes away...but the inductive spike on the output is STILL THERE in all its glory.

Let this sink in, I'll try to put up a video but I'm pretty tired, might have to wait till tomorrow.

But a fast risetime short pulse is really interesting. This pulse generator makes the Interstate's pulses look really bad in comparison. And the performance (by traditional standards) of the circuit is better too.

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #648 on: July 22, 2009, 07:06:55 AM »
TK,

It's coupling from your new pulser through the G-D capacitance.

Take the MOSFET right out of there and put a 470p cap in series with the pulser to the coil. I'll bet you'll see the same thing.

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TinselKoala

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #649 on: July 22, 2009, 07:31:24 AM »
TK,

It's coupling from your new pulser through the G-D capacitance.

Take the MOSFET right out of there and put a 470p cap in series with the pulser to the coil. I'll bet you'll see the same thing.

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I'm sure you're right. It looks pretty dramatic, though, to sweep the pulse width and see the input current trace just sort of dry up and fade away, but that ring is still there on the load, just like the smile of a Cheshire cat.
I'll make a little vid, toss it in the ring, and I'm sure it will start another whole revolution in the FE community: TK proves free energy but is too stupid to see it.
I don't have any numbers yet, except that I'm staying at 2.4 kHz just to KISS.
Except for Aaron's little toy, that one is all over the place.

One thing more: I made a better load, using an ots inductor of 12 microH, with a series anti-sense extra winding of 10 turns of resistance wire. So it's a ferrite core, 9 ohms, something in the low tens of microH, and it fits in a test tube, and can handle 50 watts without smoking, and I put the 1n4007 right between its legs.
So the whole thing is in the test tube cushioned and "sealed" by loose cotton wadding.
But a preliminary run shows that it will heat at 3 or 4 percent duty cycle, and it approaches the equilibrium temps cited by Rosemary.
Right now I am doing a control, a DC heat profile at 500 milliamps, 4 volts...or two watts average power input to load, similar to "eyeballed" average input to Ainslie circuit when running.

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #650 on: July 22, 2009, 07:55:38 AM »
@ TK

Hey, I really like all your videos on the "Ground Loop" issue there very informative and should be easy for anyone to follow on what I'm sure you agree the issue of "grounding" is very important. I would say that the only thing that could have been nice is a close still photo up of the scope shot so everyone could easily seen the difference between each subject (loop, frequency, noise or dirt) but good stuff.

I'm attaching the PDF that was forwarded earlier to members such as yourself for your review on "Stray Voltages" in best and worse case, I call it the "cow" document published in 1986. The information is prepared as an activity of the North Dakota Power Use Council, an organization of the Rural Electric Cooperatives, Investor Owned Utilities, Generating and Transmission Cooperatives, North Dakota State University of Agriculture and Applied Science and the Rural Electrification Administration in North Dakota. This is in a dairy situation a milking parlor and the length to which one has to go to limit "Voltages" from neutral to earth below .5 volts or the "miking cows" will be shocked, from resistive and inductive loads.

http://www.ag.ndsu.nodak.edu/abeng/pdffiles/epq108.pdf 

There are also Three (3) other attached drawings two (2) modified to show what diffrences between the United States and UK, European, Asian and African connections from the "high voltage" transmission lines, pole step down transformer to the structure electrical service panel (home , farm or business all the same utility service line connections). The USA 120/240 Volt transformer winding center tap 3-wire and the UK, European, Asian and African 240 Volt transformer winding 2-wire are the first two.

The third drawing is a illustration of the only "ground loop" through the water pipe , and to anyone reading this, what TK did find and show us was outstanding work these things we are discussing are hidden voltages, frequencies and harmonics induced into our "neutral-grounding" system and out of our control and it's only getting worse.

My Quote posted in response to your remark .....  http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7620.msg191700#msg191700

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OK, I'll tell you. The one on the right is the probe, and the one on the left is the probe's ground lead alligator clip.
It is connected to the terminal where I connect the negative battery terminal and also an Earth ground ( a wire to a cold water pipe under my kitchen sink which I always use in electrostatic experiments--which, by the way, show far far more "free" energy that any mosfet circuit can.

This was because of items I saw, one not identified and was actually a oscillating "audio" signal only you were able to see, the find is totally yours, and possibly I think has some significance to it as even Stefan thinks this could also be a possibility.

The one you didn't find was also not to obvious a water pipe "ground loop" (A) or better known as the RF antenna system, I would imagine that you live in the basement of a two story home with a bath on the 2nd floor maybe, with that nice scope shot on the mains you got is really busy.

To correct this I would recommend to get a 15a 120v replacement plug cord end, and use a #12 AWG "green" wire only in the assembly and plug it into the receptacle (*) where you have your electronics pluged into, if there isn't enough plugs for your electronics add a plug strip into one of the first plug strip receptacles (back to back plug strips) so as the grounding has equal potential. Try not to use the plug strip for this testing ground as the plug strips uses #16 AWG wire which limits the amps to around 12 or so maximum.

I would also like your or other members opinion's on what type of power "testing" system to get this grounding plane problem resolved, a isolated ground system is expensive for replicators building devices that need this clean ground. I saw after posting the "ground -grounded - grounding" posting here and at Energetic, Aaron in a YouTube video came up with a 12 Volt car battery with a 120 VAC inverter for his scope operation which could possibly work for everyone what are your thoughts ?? OR do you think a UPS is the way to go ??

Regards,
Fuzzy
   

TinselKoala

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #651 on: July 22, 2009, 08:33:16 AM »
Hi FuzzyTom
Thanks for that, that's a big chunk of info but it's important stuff, maybe will save someone some trouble, and it certainly reveals some stuff I didn't know about the Euro system as opposed to N America.

Your water pipe circuit is almost right, but the nipple that comes out under my sink comes in from outside, I believe, not down from up. It's on a branch that feeds the rear lawn hose bib, other end goes to the cold side of the water heater, and its feed pipes appear to be buried in the concrete of the basement floor. I think it's a pretty good earth for the electrostatic stuff, but certainly RF can make it in.

The idea of using a consumer-grade inverter or UPS on an instrumentation system gives me cold chills. But I suppose it's done all the time. Still, I recommend scoping your power supply...if you are using one of those inverters or UPS you might be surprised at what you see.

Since the circuit we're testing is battery powered and not normally earthed (or is it? Another ambiguity) and since the claim at issue is not one of third or second order effects - - COP>17, heat output -- a little imprecision in rough bench testing is permitted, I think.

Back to the Issue, though...I'm uploading a couple vids of my adventures today with Aaron's circuit, trying to get these mysterious oscillations that are the key to free energy.

And maybe I finally did. And the cause of them, at least in this case, is pretty clear. Vids uploading and processing now. Best to watch in order, A then B.

And another thing: Aaron is trying to move the goalposts. The COP>17 claim was that heat energy out in Joules was 17 times greater than electrical energy input in Joules. That is the claim; that is what I am testing. If the battery recharges itself that is really not my concern. I'm just measuring the flow at the millwheel, I don't care if the pond fills up or not.
If battery state of charge measurements become necessary, you can bet that I have access to the means to do them. Or will, once everything is unpacked from the relocation.


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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #652 on: July 22, 2009, 09:11:06 AM »
I've seen it stated here and over there that a MOSFET gate works on voltage not current.
Well, that's mostly true, I think. The transistor junction operates on Charge.
Current is the movement of charge. Voltage is the ability of a current to overcome resistance. Everything (except superconductors of course) has resistance.
To switch a mosfet, you need to get sufficient Charge packed into the junction. Charges of like sign repel of course (that's what voltage is, really--the pressure of repelling negative charges) so the only way this can be accomplished is by providing an excess voltage, so that some charge can flow into the gate's capacitance. This isn't much by ordinary standards but it is a flow of current, and it takes a finite time. More time if the voltage is less. A higher gate capacitance means a slower switching mosfet at the same gate voltage.
Don't provide enough charge in there (not enough voltage to push some charge into the gate) and the mosfet will switch slowly or incompletely or not at all. Don't provide a path for the charge to flow back out (the pull-down resistor) and the mosfet may stay on like an SCR or may oscillate or leak.
So there is a bit of current at the gate. Has to be, to vary the charge and switch the mosfet.

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #653 on: July 22, 2009, 09:12:48 AM »
Tonight's feature, Part A:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkTuVlpl0iI

Part B uploading

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #654 on: July 22, 2009, 11:00:56 AM »
@ TK
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Since the circuit we're testing is battery powered and not normally earthed (or is it? Another ambiguity)

Well I'm not sure now knowing what you do now on 240V utility power in Europe with the grounding as it is, and Rosemary makes the statement ........

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Regarding the need for grounding, and at the risk of prolonging an argument regarding this - I have to see clear evidence of the earth attached to the neck of the probe attached to the meter and across the shunt.


I would assume any electronic device including measuring equipment except the Fluke was plugged in with a 240 volt 3-prong plug (hot-hot-earth) could there have been possibly another scope being used at the same time creating a "earth" (ground) loop connection , she can't remember I think she said .... so many posts now.

Fuzzy

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #655 on: July 22, 2009, 11:20:09 AM »

@Fuzzytom:
Yep, that's the problem. Incomplete records and reporting, and so on and so forth. No matter. I don't think there's much error in the input measurements. Measurements.
See next post.

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #656 on: July 22, 2009, 11:31:07 AM »
Quite near thermal equilibrium after 1 hour. 3 percent ON duty cycle from DataPulse 101 pulse gen, 5 ns rise time.
New load in TKCalo, diode right up in there.
Shunt is 4  x 1 ohm metal film resistors in parallel, 0.25 ohm, a few microH inductance. Top of voltage drop (channel B) is around 630 mV average for the run. Duty cycle 3 percent on. Battery voltage 25.1 volts average.

Computation of estimated average input power -- assuming squareosity and neglecting spikiness -- is left as an exercise for the reader. The neglects and estimations will be in the "over" category, that is, true input energy will likely be a bit smaller than our estimates based on clean pulse edges.
 ;)

(Edit: if there's a 50-50 chance of something, I'll get it wrong 75 percent of the time.)

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #657 on: July 22, 2009, 12:01:39 PM »
TK, you are close on my 555 but not quite. Your 2k+ resistor on the battery is about double what I had and I have no problem getting square waves from my timer with a 1.1k. At least on the timer circuit I used in that first video. Brown Brown Red Gold is 1.1k 5% typical resistor you can get at radio shack. Use the 2k+ resistor you use and of course it will give you problems.

If you don't think a 555 timer powered by a battery with 1.1k resistor won't give you square waves, I will prove it 100% conclusively that it will but I'd rather not waste my time on that.

And how charged is your battery? Are you using a dead battery like you did on the original heater test? If so, then of course it will fail.

Your diagnosis at the moment is from using too high of a resistance from the battery on YOUR circuit but not mine.

It really isn't needed but it was there anyway. My current 555 circuit gives me as low as 1% duty cycle now so this is all moot but if you want to analyze what my video was anyway, with any kind of honesty whatsoever, do what I did, not what you think I did.

Here is the resistor in the picture closeup.

http://www.feelthevibe.com/free_energy/rosemary_ainslie/original555closeup.jpg

Make sure to zoom in on the picture.

1.1k resistor with a fully charged battery.




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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #658 on: July 22, 2009, 12:06:49 PM »
This is the best pic I could do enhancing contrast so you can see it better.

http://www.feelthevibe.com/free_energy/rosemary_ainslie/555resistor.jpg

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #659 on: July 22, 2009, 12:17:14 PM »
Making false assertions against someone while attempting to lower their profile to make your own appear high is readily apparent to most people on a forum of this intellectual level.

Dragging a wagon of porcine excrement around behind you without wheels, with a good wind breeze behind you, makes you look bad a smell even worse.

Regards...