You mean, like Northern vs. Southern Hemisphere?

I mean like look at the animation at the top of the first link. See that sawtooth waveform on the upper left?

Actually it looks like whoever designed Rosemary's 555 didn't know about these (standard) circuits, because I don't see any diodes in these, and there also are more capacitors in her 555 circuit.

In the first link, look at the "Duty Cycle <50%" diagram. There's a diode there.

I mean like look at the animation at the top of the first link. See that sawtooth waveform on the upper left?

In the first link, look at the "Duty Cycle <50%" diagram. There's a diode there.

OK, thanks, I see it now. The ramp waveform isn't the output of the circuit, it's showing the relation between that cap charging and the square output pulse.
The diode, now...I'll get back to you on that.  Got to run right now

Oh, and I decided to use the LeCroy scope instead of the Hitachi--the Hitachi does not do integration on board, but the LeCroy does.

Hi Guys,

Just my 2cents.
I have beadboarded the Quantum's paper 555 timer CirCuiT.

It works fine. I can read (at pin 3) the less than 4% duty cycle with
a freq. of  2.4 khz. Of course, I have to swap the probes of my scope
(and the probes of my freq meter) to see these results....

I mean: IMHO - and if I'm not mistaken - the Quantum 555 CCT
does *not* give the claimed results but just the opposite
as initially stated by NikolaTesla mingled (TK)....
My 555 circuit also  "generates (at pin 3) long, not short, ON times".

Now, some guys are telling that the Quantum 555 CCT actually works as claimed =
generates short not long ON times (at pin 3? with the probes correctly wired?)
I'm lost.... I guess I will have another drink.

Anyway, an extra 2N2222 (or similar) at pin 3 should inverse the wave.
Should it not?

BTW I have ordered some  IRFPG50.
http://www.awatronic.fr/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=20219&added=1

Now, What about this circuit???  Sounds familiar. No?
Are the maths right?
More, In French (sorry) on : http://freenrg.info/Misc/FR_Zoltan_ZPE_Circuit/

Very Best

Hi FuzzyTomcat,

Thanks.
The google translation is not so bad...

I was expecting some Jean-Loup Chiflet's "Sky English"

Basically, Jean-Loup Chiflet, the author, translates word-for-word French expressions and then gives the actual meaning... Funny and useful...

Few examples:
Poser un lapin [To put down a rabbit] - To stand someone up
Ca ne court pas les rues [It doesn't run the streets] - To be rare
Rien à cirer [nothing to polish] - Not to give a damn
Un nom à coucher dehors [A name to sleep outside] - An impossible name

Very Best

I just tried shorting my diodes with a bit of wire while the 555 circuit is running.
Guess what.....

It makes a miniscule difference in the freq and duty cycle. Much less than I would have predicted.

And you're sure you shorted where you should have shorted? Instead of shorted where you should have cut (opened)?

(Hey, if my comments are nonsense, just ignore me. As far as I'm concerned, those 'trons are mystical beings that do whatever they please anyway.)

And you're sure you shorted where you should have shorted? Instead of shorted where you should have cut (opened)?

(Hey, if my comments are nonsense, just ignore me. As far as I'm concerned, those 'trons are mystical beings that do whatever they please anyway.)

Look at Rosemary's circuit. Opening those lines--well, I didn't try it, I tested my hardwired version and I didn't want to cut anything out---but I don't think opening those particular lines would have the desired effect. But OK, I'll try it.  Check back in an hour or two.

And I have also just now been testing the circuit using the LeCroy 9370M digital sampling oscilloscope (1GHz bandwidth). This scope will do just about everything except butter the toast. It even has an internal thermal printer for screen dumps. 2-channel, 4-trace, more math functions than I know what to do with. This particular unit has "issues" with the #2 channel; it is queued up for repair which is why I was able to abscond briefly with it. But the #1 channel is fine and everything else is copacetic.
EXCEPT: the silly thing is even worse at resolving those really sharp spikes than my slow analog scopes. And yes, I have global BWL and local channel BWL off, and all that. Maybe the #1 has "issues" too, because I seem to remember this scope doing much better than that, and at 500 Megasamples/second you'd think you would be able to resolve some 2 Mhz spikes.
BUT: That's OK because it does integration, and (a constant) X (the integral of a function) is the same as the integral of ((a constant) X ( a function)).
If I remember my calculus. It's been a very long time.
So that means I can integrate the current trace over time, and if the battery voltage remains reasonably constant I can declare that it is constant, and multiply that times the integrated current trace, and still wind up with energy in Joules.
Can't I?

Anyway, I'll post a video showing off this fancy osk-kill-osk-o-pee later this evening.

(I still prefer analog scopes, especially for the kinds of work generally done around here. They are much easier to fix when they get zapped.)

Bringing up "Mylow" won't help the issue, lol. Mylow mylow mylow mylow mylow... See, it has no "ju-ju" power at all

(Gee what a waste of time that was then for ALL CONCERNED hehehe)

As for Steorn, i've never had a real opinion on it, as there are some excellent arguments on both sides. Utterly screwing-up an important electronic device Demo in front of Customers has been done thousands of times before in the "real" world (unfortunately i've seen it happen a couple extremely uncomfortable and sweaty times lol), so that incident didn't weigh too much with me. But i gotta say being behind 5 years for Release is a bit much even for all-new concepts (although some may be surprised to hear that missing the Release date some marketing moron arbitrarily sets by 1 to 2 years is actually more common than not in the electronics industry) .

If you guys were suggesting from your paraphrasing / quoting of the last part of my previous post that i am convinced the circuit works... Well read it again because you obviously missed the points there. We should wait and not blindly take any one person's opinion on it, either way.
 
TK might be right but that is not the point ... The point is that despite whatever great talents he may have, they are not all-encompassing (i've never met anyone who's are), nor does his obvious bias exude confidence in his objectivity This is not to suggest he is deliberately "tilting" results (which i don't think is the case), it is that his mindset in viewing it could be so pre-conceived as to cause him to miss something others' may not. That happens ALL THE TIME, even with professional top-notch EE's with many years' experience. I've seen that several times too: It is one of the worst dangers we all face in many endeavors, imo.

But should he indeed be proved wrong in the end, i would not crow, or even rejoice (about that specifically, anyway). Because, professionally, i've been there. And learned not to invest too heavily with only my own opinions and results to go on; as these things have myriads of possible unforeseen factors that WILL bite you in the ass, eventually... Even if you are the "Clint Eastwood" of electronic circuit building . It's as simple as that.

In business we would not take any one person's word on whether or not to go with an all-new technology... Especially when there is any controversy at all attached to it, and even more so if a lot of R&D money and the company's future market share were riding on it. It would go before a Review of several Engineers, including some off-site independent consultants as well, so all possible factors would have a much better chance of being caught... Before any real decisions were made. That's how it is done.

But we can pretty much assume that while we are waiting a few weeks for more results, that the world won't suddenly be "fooled" into accepting the concepts of Free Energy... So none of the skeptics here need lose any sleep in the mean time