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Author Topic: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie  (Read 552072 times)

Offline fuzzytomcat

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2745 on: December 26, 2009, 07:09:05 AM »
Hi everyone,

Well I got it together and now have a "LIVE" Broadcast site to do the testing and evaluation on the Rosemary Ainslie COP heater circuit and others .... but ... in doing so I had to come up with a "CHANNEL" name and it's called .....

Open Source Research and Development
http://www.livestream.com/opensourceresearchanddevelopment


The strange thing is you must supply videos for some time to be a verified channel and somehow this was bypassed .... possibly because of the name I chose .... don't know this was in the e-mail .....
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Effective immediately, you can now stream to unlimited concurrent viewers. In addition, your Livestream Free channel is now listed at livestream.com and is available via search or by browsing the Channel Guide. Plus, your channel is now eligible for promotion in throughout the Livestream Network.


I am broadcasting "RIGHT NOW" for the first time as a dry run .....

Fuzzy
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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2746 on: December 26, 2009, 10:29:43 AM »
skol

Bill

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2747 on: December 27, 2009, 09:40:10 AM »
Hi guys is it possible to run this circuit with 12v battery only doing a sort of inverter to the 24v side?
Another thing about those pots 50k/50% does 50% reffering to tolerance?
Any help please?
Thanks
« Last Edit: December 27, 2009, 10:04:21 AM by guruji »

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2748 on: December 27, 2009, 06:55:49 PM »
guruji  Hello.  I apologise for not answering here but the truth is that I'm really not qualified to comment.  My own recommendation would be to try and follow Fuzzy's schematic to the letter - if you're trying to replicate the effect.  But I really need him to give you advice here.  I do know that there have been successful variations of the circuit - but it's better left to our experimentalists to advise here.  Fuzzy?  Can you oblige?  Someone? 

Otherwise read up on the different schematics that are on offer at energeticforum.com.  There may be some variation that will suit your apparatus and requirements.  And good luck.

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2749 on: December 28, 2009, 09:35:02 AM »
Hi Everyone,

I have another "LIVE" streaming video broadcast going on right now demonstrating the operation of the Rosemary Ainslie COP Heater Circuit Replication if anyone would like to check it out for the next 6 to 12 hours ... 

Open Source Research and Development -
http://www.livestream.com/opensourceresearchanddevelopment

Best Regards,
Fuzzy
 :)

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2750 on: December 28, 2009, 12:54:41 PM »
Hi Fuzzy I already posted this even on your live stream chat but I'm asking again.
Can this circuit run on 12v battery only including a sort of inverter on the 24v side?
Thanks
Andrew

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2751 on: December 28, 2009, 02:16:16 PM »
Hi Guruji,

I suspect that the effect may not work if you try to create a passive resistive network- based "Voltage Doubler" circuit, as all of those i've seen rely on a clear Ground reference to work, and the output would really be "-12V to +12V". However the only way to know for sure, is to build as suggested first; to get the desired effect working as a "baseline" so you can know when any circuit changes make a difference or not.

Two 12V lead-acid batts of any AH size (or a single 24V batt), or even more such as a total of "48V's" (which is planned to try in the future when High Voltage Probes for the scope become available), is the "recommended method" so far. Scaling down appears to lessen the effect considerably (perhaps even a little more than would be expected as "linear"), from the data Fuzzy once got from running on deeply discharged batts; but there's factors besides just the V's involved and those results could also have been at least partially related to the Output Impedance change in the nearly-totally-flat batts. 

Regarding the "50%" figure you mentioned earlier, i could not find the reference for that, but it sounds like a typo for "5%": Which would be "Tolerance" / accuracy.

Offline fuzzytomcat

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2752 on: December 28, 2009, 07:32:17 PM »
Hi Fuzzy I already posted this even on your live stream chat but I'm asking again.
Can this circuit run on 12v battery only including a sort of inverter on the 24v side?
Thanks
Andrew

Hi guruji,

Sorry I didn't get back to you at the live streaming chat .... but I was tired and went to bed and let the circuit self run. I suspect that Jibbguy is correct that using a inverter the circuit effect may not be there but the only way to actually know is to try it. There are several experimenters that are trying different methods of modified Rosemary Ainslie circuits such as gotoluc and Michael John Nunnerley that are having good results ..... you never know

Best,
Fuzzy

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2753 on: December 29, 2009, 05:42:06 PM »
Guys, for those that don't follow energetic forum here's our first refusal from the IEEE.  Not a blanket rejection which is something - but disheartening nonetheless, the more so as I think Iravani himself was rather partial to publishing this.  Anyway.  Hopefully the re-run will have a better outcome.

Date: Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 5:59 AM
Subject: Paper TPWRD-00893-2009, by Mr. Ashtweth Palise, Open source evaluation of power transients generated to improve performance coefficient of resistive heating systems.
To: ashtweth@gmail.com
Cc: pesdecisions@ieee.org, iravani@ecf.utoronto.ca


Paper Title: Open source evaluation of power transients generated to improve performance coefficient of resistive heating systems.

We regret to advise you that the Reviewing Committee is unable
to accept the subject paper for publication as a PES Transactions paper even with possible revisions.

Enclosed please find the comments of the reviewers that should
serve to explain the recommendation of the reviewing committee.
I hope you will find the explanations satisfactory. Although we
could not accept this paper, we hope that you will consider
Transactions on Power Delivery for other papers in the future.

We thank you for your continued interest in the Power Engineering Society.

COMMENTS TO THE AUTHORS:
Editor's Comments:

Editor
Editor Comments for Author:
We suggest this paper to be sumitted for review to the IEEE Transactions on Industrial Electronics or Industry Applications. This rejection is an administrative decision and not based on the paper content.

Reviewers' Comments:

Reviewer: 1
Comments to the Author
After the initial review we concluded that the paper is more suitable for IEEE Transactions on Industrial electronics and not Power Delivery.

Yours sincerely,

Dr. Reza Iravani
Editor in Chief
Transactions on Power Delivery
iravani@ecf.utoronto.ca

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2754 on: January 01, 2010, 04:47:50 AM »
To everyone who's already enjoyed it - I trust you all saw in a Happy New Year.  I'm still in time to wish those members in the States the happiest New Year ever.  Ã…nd I hope that 2010 will bring us all our very dearest wishes.

 ;D

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2755 on: January 01, 2010, 05:20:47 AM »
Hi,

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!

I'm going to have another demonstration set up and am inviting all members and guests again with hopefully those that missed last weeks "LIVE" interactive streaming broadcast of this threads Rosemary Ainslie COP Heater Circuit.

This also provides a opertunity for anyone to ask questions in real time inside the "on line" chat room and talk to myself or others that are involved with the project in some way or hope to be.



"LIVE" NEW YEARS DAY (USA) January 1, 2010
at 12:00 PM (noon) Pacific Standard Time or GMT -8



Open Source Research and Development -
http://www.livestream.com/opensourceresearchanddevelopment


Best Wishes,
Fuzzy
 ;D

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2756 on: January 01, 2010, 05:24:38 AM »
Hi,

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!!

I'm going to have another demonstration set up and am inviting all members and guests again with hopefully those that missed last weeks "LIVE" interactive streaming broadcast of this threads Rosemary Ainslie COP Heater Circuit.

This also provides a opertunity for anyone to ask questions in real time inside the "on line" chat room and talk to myself or others that are involved with the project in some way or hope to be.



"LIVE" NEW YEARS DAY (USA) January 1, 2010
at 12:00 PM (noon) Pacific Standard Time or GMT -8



Open Source Research and Development -
http://www.livestream.com/opensourceresearchanddevelopment


Best Wishes,
Fuzzy
 ;D

Thanks Fuzzy - can't wait.   :-*

Offline fuzzytomcat

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2757 on: January 14, 2010, 12:49:54 AM »
Hi everyone,

I see that many of the members and guests here have shown up on my   "Open Source Research and Development" channel showing this threads circuit in operation in various stages of oscillation. The last show was the "Preferred Mode Of Oscillation" that includes the subharmonic modulation that we have deemed necessary for the COP> 1 results which we prefer and must be forced by careful adjustments.

The January 9, 2010 show was the best showing this "Preferred Mode Of Oscillation" in the first 2 hours of the 5 Hour long tape ..... ( search-able video timer shown with time left )

Open Source Research and Development - January 9, 2010
http://bit.ly/4XVsAj (link)

TIME
4:45 _ 24.68 to 24.69 VDC Starting Voltage
4:01 _ 24.72 VDC Highest Voltage Reading
4:00 _ 24.71 VDC
3:33 _ 24.70 VDC
3:17 _ 24.69 VDC Return to Starting Voltage
2:54 _ Temperature Readings
2:52 _ 24.68 VDC

STARTING TEMPERATURES READINGS -
139 Degrees F - 10 ohm load resistor
161 Degrees F - Mosfet
113 Degrees F - .25 ohm shunt resistor

2:54 TEMPERATURE READINGS -
138 Degrees F - 10 ohm load resistor
158 Degrees F - Mosfet
107 Degrees F - .25 ohm shunt resistor

5.27 Watt Load ( Load Resistor ) on circuit during operating throughout the time length indicated.

I hope anyone interested might check it out because non stop it's quite interesting .....

Regards,
Fuzzy
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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2758 on: January 14, 2010, 08:57:30 AM »
Hi Fuzzy very well done. I think now you should move experiments to those water heater elements  ;)
Thanks for sharing

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Re: Claimed OU circuit of Rosemary Ainslie
« Reply #2759 on: January 14, 2010, 11:21:46 PM »
So, do some useful work with the 5 watts.

Light a 5 watt lamp. I would be interested in seeing that video.
I do not trust measurements for proof of the input/output, and never will.

Simply use 2, 24 volt batteries, one hooked directly to one 5 watt lamp. Time that and watch for a drop in the battery voltage.

Then use the other 24 volt battery with your circuit and one 5 watt lamp.
Will the battery last longer?

Have Fun    8)