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Offline powerunlimited

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #225 on: June 27, 2009, 04:18:39 PM »
To Farrah day
Wrong file heres the #2 report,note the kind of power this device can really output,does that sound like power line or the earths magnetic field,he pops a 50 amp fuse
Then ask this question how close is anyone to building one here.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #225 on: June 27, 2009, 04:18:39 PM »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #226 on: June 27, 2009, 04:22:12 PM »
To Farrah Day
to my knowledge except for the mannix letters and the fact that
 the open tpu in the video has
control windings four when you examine them you
 will find there is one single winding,Its another SM trick,its not a winding,ha ha
 the tpu in the lab setting he glued four wires to make it seem that it had control coils
this is all an illusion to make you think theres control coils.
the other units are covered so you can't tell anything.
I don't know if you have this.

Wrong on both counts. Keep going.

Offline innovation_station

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #227 on: June 27, 2009, 04:25:08 PM »
whats this ... 

hummmmmm

ist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BTcmuGdLCU   :P

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #227 on: June 27, 2009, 04:25:08 PM »
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Offline Grumpy

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #228 on: June 27, 2009, 04:46:45 PM »
May I suggest removing the word 'magnetic' from the above thought?

Looking at this from a magnetic only perspective has proved to be bad for most working on this.

Double Ditto

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #229 on: June 27, 2009, 05:31:20 PM »
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May I suggest removing the word 'magnetic' from the above thought?

You may well suggest it BEP, but magnetic fields would seem to be one of the only things we can be sure are interacting. Out of curiousity what do you suggest I replace 'magnetic' with?

And Grumps, some time back you said the Spherics design might be the place to start, yet Spherics talks about the effect of producing one magnetic field inside another. So, please elaborate on 'Double ditto'.

Wattsup, would you kindly point me to where we have a first hand description of SM's coil layout. It would afterall be nice to get just one thing unequivocally substantiated around here.

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« Reply #229 on: June 27, 2009, 05:31:20 PM »
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Offline tsl

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #230 on: June 27, 2009, 05:37:32 PM »
Some improvements are needed, like using a core material capable of much higher freq and so higher virtual RPM.
what about air as a core?there is a solution also for dealing with the fields that would be not contained and that's related to the topic here. :P

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #231 on: June 27, 2009, 06:00:08 PM »
You may well suggest it BEP, but magnetic fields would seem to be one of the only things we can be sure are interacting. Out of curiousity what do you suggest I replace 'magnetic' with?

It is my strong belief that all fields, including temporal, are different perspectives of the same thing. Electric and magnetic are commonly thought of as the same thing as viewed from different frames.

The biggest mistake I see folks making is saying they are working with the magnetic and only measuring the electric. Are they assuming what is going on with the magnetic?

If you wish to stick with magnetic only then consider measuring the magnetic only.

Regardless, I can assure you this is not a 2D universe.

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« Reply #231 on: June 27, 2009, 06:00:08 PM »
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Offline Yucca

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #232 on: June 27, 2009, 06:03:16 PM »
what about air as a core?there is a solution also for dealing with the fields that would be not contained and that's related to the topic here. :P

Air core is VERY easy to saturate and handles very high freq, agreed, but maybe too easy, in air core you will get mostly EM radiation. I think maybe the answer is a subtle blend of inductive and EM action, that's why I plan to build a core that can be saturated so a mix of inductive and EM action can be combined. When you saturate a metalic core you will then overflow into the surrounding aircore. I have a feeling both are needed. That's why the core I will experiment with will be metglass and thin paper (masking tape) laminations. The paper will be pretty close to aircore.

p.s. what does the tongue sticky out smilie mean  :P? Call me thick but I've never worked that one out? byeeee!
« Last Edit: June 27, 2009, 06:29:14 PM by Yucca »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #233 on: June 27, 2009, 06:09:28 PM »
I think in the earliest TPUs it was an attempt to reverse transformer function.

The core was copper and the windings were iron. If you could get the magnetic to flow similar to electric current you could create the correct mag field around the core/wire loop just as if you put a current in that wire loop.

Wouldn't that form also cause an anti-Lenz result?

Face it.... The universe is reciprocal.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #233 on: June 27, 2009, 06:09:28 PM »
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #234 on: June 27, 2009, 06:13:03 PM »
love ya ist. see you on the other side bro!

Offline Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #235 on: June 27, 2009, 06:17:03 PM »
BEP, maybe it's just me, but I find it rather odd that you'd rather dismiss the interaction of magnetic fields as playing a crucial part in the workings of a TPU, when that is the one thing the coils will certainly be producing. I fail to see the logic in your post.

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Regardless, I can assure you this is not a 2D universe.

Are you saying that you think magnetic fields are 2-dimensional? Or is this just humour you've picked up from Grumps?  :)

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The core was copper and the windings were iron

How do you know this BEP? Where is there a reference to this?

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #235 on: June 27, 2009, 06:17:03 PM »
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #236 on: June 27, 2009, 06:24:55 PM »
BEP,

By temporal did you mean  casmir?  Or gravity?     "temporal force" is more of a philosophical term  that doesn't have much meaning.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #237 on: June 27, 2009, 06:57:10 PM »
Yucca
Yes, I'm in the process of reading that thread and the one started by Room3327. What I have gleaned so far is that Room3327 was an intelligent and extremely level-headed person and a valuable asset, and it's a shame he's not still around.

As usual though intelligence and common sense was having to compete heavily with far-out theorising, single-minded SM worshippers and plain old ignorance. Unlike many around here, Room3327 was certainly one of the guys you could have a straight-talking and intelligent discussion with.

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Even a weak magnetic field such as the Earth's can be made to produce usable energy if you have a long enough wire or you MOVE THE WIRE FASTER. In Tesla's converter a weak magnetic field can generate a lot of energy if it is MOVED FAST ENOUGH.  By moving the magnetic field instead of moving the wire, power is still generated just the same.  Tesla figured out that moving the magnetic field did not necessarily mean anything else had to move, the field can be moved by itself. Doing so eliminates CEMF and bypasses Lenz.  Now with no CEMF the magnetic field can move very rapidly, very easily. So in this device a small magnetic field (or low input power) can transfer a great deal of energy to the output if the field is moved FAST ENOUGH.  This device can be made to rotate the field at a very high speed, as I've stated earlier in this thread, and that high speed would cause the output to be High Voltage as Steven Marks says this device is.
As he says, to increase output from a generator you can increase the magnet strength, increase the wire length or move the wire faster.  This device is all about moving the wire faster by moving the field past it faster.  The thousands of pieces of wire connected in series is just many turns of wire in a coil. The output coils are connected as two pair and not tied together (although today's electronics may be able to do so) and each pair may be connected in series or parallel as desired for current or voltage.  The circuit potential is the amount of power that the device can safely handle and you tune the frequency (RPM) to that point so you don't destroy the device. In practice the freq. could be used to control the output power with feedback so only the required power is produced up to it's maximum output.

Posts like this gives Room3327 a great deal of credibility in my eyes. But, unfortunately for him there was always some ignoramus or naive SM fanatic ready to mock him, insult his intelligence or simply kick the boot in for the fun of it.

That tends to happen on all forums if you don't immediately fall in line with the crazies way of thinking. You always take the chance of alienating yourself from the general population when you attempt to bring a little common sense and sanity to a thread. And woe betide if you show any signs of scepticism, however justified - you're an instant trouble-making rebel!

Likewise, P99's opening post to his thread was an excellent post too, but the reason for starting the thread is soon obscured by the idiot posters and nonsense that inevitably follows.

Intelligent posters certainly have a lot to contend with.


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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #239 on: June 27, 2009, 07:26:31 PM »
Yucca
Yes, I'm in the process of reading that thread and the one started by Room3327. What I have gleaned so far is that Room3327 was an intelligent and extremely level-headed person and a valuable asset, and it's a shame he's not still around.

As usual though intelligence and common sense was having to compete heavily with far-out theorising, single-minded SM worshippers and plain old ignorance. Unlike many around here, Room3327 was certainly one of the guys you could have a straight-talking and intelligent discussion with.

Posts like this gives Room3327 a great deal of credibility in my eyes. But, unfortunately for him there was always some ignoramus or naive SM fanatic ready to mock him, insult his intelligence or simply kick the boot in for the fun of it.

That tends to happen on all forums if you don't immediately fall in line with the crazies way of thinking. You always take the chance of alienating yourself from the general population when you attempt to bring a little common sense and sanity to a thread. And woe betide if you show any signs of scepticism, however justified - you're an instant trouble-making rebel!

Likewise, P99's opening post to his thread was an excellent post too, but the reason for starting the thread is soon obscured by the idiot posters and nonsense that inevitably follows.

Intelligent posters certainly have a lot to contend with.

Hi FarrahDay,

Worry not about politics, just engineer for the better.

I am leaving this forum, but I have a weird feeling that FE will be outed soon enough.

Best regards from a Cheshire boy.

 

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