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powerunlimited

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #180 on: June 25, 2009, 05:00:06 PM »
To Farrah day

Your making the same mistake I made don't believe everything SM says
ask your self this question why in the hell would SM give
you information how to build the tpu.The reason that we know  about SM or
 the tpu at all is someone close to him posted the video tapes,to punish him, that were intended to lure in investors
they were not for public viewing.After he found out that the videos were posted then
he wrote the letters later  as damage control,there done to mislead you.
The people here simply go in circles as you will find out.
goto this page download the radio interview with Jack durban,theres a question and answer
in the second half,a few people from here are on it.Jack Durban is an electronic engineer that worked with SM was hired by SM
seen the big tpu,very long story.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Talk:Article:Jack_Durban%27s_experience_with_Steve_Marks_Toroid_Generator

Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #181 on: June 25, 2009, 05:37:53 PM »
On the contrary PU, I'm sceptical about everything I read on these forums, which is why I was hoping to converse with people that had first hand experience. People who had actually tried to replicate a SM TPU or at least built some form of TPU, and whom were willing to share their findings, build design, results, etc.

Oh yes PU, I have more than a healthy measure of sceptiscm and I'm also blessed with quite a good nose for bullshit.   

That said, you've got to start from somewhere.

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i must just kick my feet up and lauch at you 

Yeh, whatever. Over 3000 posts of iliterate and utter giberish... you must be really proud of yourself!!
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 07:22:59 PM by Farrah Day »

Grumpy

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #182 on: June 25, 2009, 09:19:30 PM »
On the contrary PU, I'm sceptical about everything I read on these forums, which is why I was hoping to converse with people that had first hand experience. People who had actually tried to replicate a SM TPU or at least built some form of TPU, and whom were willing to share their findings, build design, results, etc.

Oh yes PU, I have more than a healthy measure of sceptiscm and I'm also blessed with quite a good nose for bullshit.   

That said, you've got to start from somewhere.

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Yeh, whatever. Over 3000 posts of iliterate and utter giberish... you must be really proud of yourself!!

Spherics provided instructions for building a tetrahedral device that he claimed operated via the same principles as the TPU.  The thread he started is relatively short.

Why don't you start with that?  or at least the bifilar test the he describes?

Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #183 on: June 25, 2009, 09:31:21 PM »
Did a quick and simple test with 3 inductors wired in series this afternoon.

I found that I did indeed get out of phase voltages when the actual signal across each inductor was put on my scope.  Simply altering the frequency altered the phase shift.

3 series inductors, 1 signal generator providing 1 signal, 3 out of phase voltages.

innovation_station

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #184 on: June 25, 2009, 11:36:31 PM »
nice ...  ;D

i have some really big relays ....  3 phase ac style ...  fired from 12 vdc pulse ...  maybe a fet and a freq genny ...   then make a 3 phase motor with 3 coils each  ...  phase and collect collect colllect

upon passing the engery through the motor  coils collect  like a transformer and upon colapse from all 9 coils ...  collect too   oooooo  better grab the free ride ... 

ist!


enjoy

btw what you got if you never take the power away...  a ufo....   circulating ac in 1 dirrection 

infact i have 4 of thease relays for a 36 coil ufo device ...

when you gonna wake up ?

nice job tho  :)  farrah day

wattsup

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #185 on: June 26, 2009, 01:49:53 AM »
Holy moly, this thread is like Alice in Wonderland, except I'd call it,,,,,,,,

Farrah in OULand. IST is like the OU Jester. IST u'z the man.

Now all you need is a Lion, a Scarecrow and a Tin Man. Maybe you will speak with the WIzard of OU. You should practice clicking your heels. lol

No, seriously though, the cryptic talk you are referring to from @otto (and others) is only part of a ritual between many older members here that are able to read between the lines.

If you or anyone else wants to do any investigative work with the videos, I suggest you download and install VirtualDubMod. Once installed open the Video menu - Filters - Add - Null Transform and use that filter to do close ups while the video is running. Really neat and powerful software. But I have done alot of all that already. lol

There is a whole load of information located on my ftp (no frills) web site located here;

http://www.purco.qc.ca/ftp

Look in Software for the VirtualDubMod version I use presently or Google it for the latest version.
Look in Steven Mark section for tons of tpu stuff.
Look in Overunity.com - Forum members for some of this forums tpu and other works.
Look in Wattsups' stuff then TPU stuff also for more info.

Hope this helps.
wattsup

powerunlimited

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #186 on: June 26, 2009, 03:52:52 AM »
To Farrah Day:
I'm glad to know that your sceptical and have  a nose for bs,your going to need both in here,heres another thing for you to consider
What if SM is on this forum and has been since the original videos were posted,hidden as an
elder member,and adding to misdirection.Would you be able to tell who he was?
check this for your self:
Is there really any control coils at all,do tpu's use discreet oscillators
do any tpu's have  batteries.Is SM so stupid that all he knows is tube technology,yet created
all the tpu's.

Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #187 on: June 26, 2009, 09:36:51 AM »
Wattsup

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No, seriously though, the cryptic talk you are referring to from @otto (and others) is only part of a ritual between many older members here that are able to read between the lines

Well I guess everyone will have their own opinion on this. The more I read, the more I get the feeling that many people are using cryptic nonsense simply in order to cover up their own ignorance. Perhaps it's not that people don't want to share info, but rather that they can't because they don't have anything to share in the first place.

Are people around here simply claiming to know more than they actually do - the evasive, incoherent and frankly bullshit responses would tend to indicate this! 

If anyone would genuinely like to collaborate on a new TPU build then please pipe up.

powerunlimited

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #188 on: June 26, 2009, 10:56:22 AM »
To Farrah Day:
              A little bit better perspective of Jack Durban and SM the short version,when Jack Durban
did the radio interview hes goal was two things smoke out SM,
to ask him if they could work together.BY insulting him and demeaning him
he thought that would force him out of hiding if he were still alive and he would contact him.
The other goal was if he and all the other engineers with all there education could not figure out
 the tpu then maybe other people that were closer to SM low level of intelligence might figure it out
after all how hard could it be.So he came to the forum for those people,he gave  them a hi resolution video 
that he copied from a tape SM's boyfriend he  had at that time.He was on for awhile,during this time ,the
old boy friend of SM shows up at this forum,cussing out JAck DUrban.Some more  time passes
then Jack Durban gets death threat phone calls at hes home ,its SM,he posted one.
More time passes Jack Durban says hes resolved hes differences with SM,SM told JAck DUrban
that He doesn't know how the tpu works only that it does,and he can't tell him anything about it as he sold the rights. Jack Durban is here for awhile longer,then ego brusing time came,not initiated by Jack Durban,
however Jack Durban turned out to be real fierce and hes come backs were great,then the germany guy that runs this place,also started on him.
Jack Durban dropped a heavy load on him then said a few other things then left.
He returned briefly in another thread and explained hes motives for doing what he did.
SM is easly Jack Durbans equal,SM mostlikey does not have a heavy math backround,but has imagination
incredible building skills ,the power to obfuscate to a level I have never seen before,a very high level of creativity.
A spin master,an amazing ability to guess what a person will think when he sees a give thing and create that illusion.
This is how he fooled the engineers,jack durban and people here,he knows electronics real well.
You handle your self real well,your what this forum needs.Because SM's ability to  obfuscate  is so great nothing in the videos or things he has written can be trusted.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #189 on: June 26, 2009, 11:14:24 AM »

MACEDONIA CD

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #190 on: June 26, 2009, 11:16:09 AM »
ok
 i see here  and ask all you  WHAT I MEAN FOR THAT <TUBE > WWHAY TUBE  FOR WHAT  IS NEED TPU
  THAT IS THE ON EOFF THE  PARTS  OF TPU @ MK1  HMM  MADE IN CHESSLOVAKIA  I THING IS  BEST < MADE IN YUGOSLAVIA  ;)

TOMOROW I WHILL MAKE SOME TO SEE  AND I WHILL GIVE YOU HOPE TO CONTINUE  WHIT  EXPERIMENTS  <<
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@INNOVATION  LOONG TIME NO SEE  IM ALL TIME HERE 
@MARCO YOU HAVE  NOTHING NOW  BEACOUSE  .....
I HAVVE THING  YOU ARE  OK BUT  YOU WHILL LOST IN THE END   

Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #191 on: June 26, 2009, 11:18:53 AM »
Just to go back to something Marco said:

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If you read the complete compilation i have made you will see that he first discoverd the effect with vacuum tubes, and then switched over to solid state controlling circuits.

Furthermore you can read the info about how he first discoverd the effect when he was designing what would become his 3D spatial sound system.

Well according to the Jack Durban interview the 3D spatial sound system was a complete red herring, so we can possibly disregard that entirely.

As far as tubes (or valves as we would call them) go, and as far as I can tell SM says he first noted the 'kick' from these, but they were never used in his TPUs... if that's what you were getting at? 

Jack Durban says he never saw any evidence of PCB's or any parts or tools you would associate with PCB construction, leading him to think it was all about coils and coil orientation. However, SM definitely mentions ICs in an email to Mannix, so I would assume that likely a very simple 555 timer cct is located somewhere.

Jack Durban also said something else in the interview that I found a little odd. That is that the shape of the TPU was irrelevant and that the toroid shape was simply easier to wind.  Well, I find this a little odd, because the only coils that would be easier to wind on a toroid would be what people are calling the collector coils - the so-called control coils would be a real pain-in-the-arse to wind on a toroid.  And how would he do this?

From what I can make out from the JD interview it would seem that SM fixed some form of support posts (speaker supports are mentioned) to a particle board base around which were wound the coils - if this was the case it would only be possible to wind the so-called coils!!

Are we really sure that there are 'control coils' wound at 90 degrees to these collector coils?

Also, while I'm thinking about Hartmann pipes up on the phone and mentions iron baling wire as a possible material for the collector coils, but if this was the case, I would have thought that the TPU's shown in a video being disected with a jigsaw, would be far harder to cut through than indicated.

The one thing I was hoping to get clarified was the coil orientations... are there any coils at 90 degrees to each other? But this was never brought up, so either no one thought to ask or this is taken as a given. 

I might have overlooked this as I'm pouring through so much stuff at present, but, is there anywhere that SM clearly states that there are multiple coils at 90 degres to each other?

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #192 on: June 26, 2009, 11:21:00 AM »
@HARTI
 :)

turbo

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #193 on: June 26, 2009, 11:37:55 AM »
Just to go back to something Marco said:

Well according to the Jack Durban interview the 3D spatial sound system was a complete red herring, so we can possibly disregard that entirely.


Jack Durban doesn't know shit, he should stick at designing shopping cart wheels.
It would have been better if he had looked a bit closer.
But you can believe all he is saying (which is nothing really), i don't care.

M.

turbo

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #194 on: June 26, 2009, 11:41:52 AM »
 
@MARCO YOU HAVE  NOTHING NOW  BEACOUSE  .....
I HAVVE THING  YOU ARE  OK BUT  YOU WHILL LOST IN THE END

And you, go buy some more milk and bread.
And stay away from the TPU.