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Offline innovation_station

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #150 on: June 24, 2009, 06:43:58 PM »
NICE MAC ... 

WHATS THE TUBE # LOL


MARCO   ON WITH THE STORY ... LOL

PEACE TO ALL ...    GOT SPIN?!?!  GET TUBED !?!?!   :D

IST  ;D

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Re: New TPU build
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #151 on: June 24, 2009, 06:53:35 PM »
@all

That tube looks like it is one ez 81 rectifier tube ...


Offline Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #152 on: June 24, 2009, 07:01:29 PM »
Pictures of thermionic valves?? What's that all about... you show me your valve and I'll show you mine?

To reiterate my earlier post to GK just in case it was overlooked rather than simply ignored:

GK, by way of a follow on from Goaties thread above, I see you have numerous U-tube videos and a couple of threads a mile long. However, I was wondering if you can tell me whether or not you have been able to replicate SM's effect with your TPU device... without me having to trawl through hundreds of pages to find the answer.

Have you been able to power up a few mains light bulbs from your TPU?  Is your collector coil delivering more power than your control coils are feeding it?

A simple answer would be appreciated. 

No need for proof of workings, cryptic messages or poetry, but you can elaborate on a simple 'yes' or 'no' - just thinking ahead.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #152 on: June 24, 2009, 07:01:29 PM »
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Offline BEP

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #153 on: June 24, 2009, 07:18:50 PM »
@GK

No disrespect taken. My realization dashed some dreams of mine, as well. Then I realized they were only warped a bit. But so are most of my ideas  ;D

@[marco]

I know my posts don't look like it but I must agree. There will be no sparks until folks start smacking rocks together. (The last sentence is not cryptic. It means exactly what it says.) My theories have finished forming, some time ago. It has been time to prove or disprove for several months now. One step at a time.

Yes, I did the experiments with the tubes, transformers and single piece of wire and a magnet. The results are the basis for my theory of operation.

So far I've had little more than what SM said would happen. Lots of sparks, heating, lighting light bulbs, burning flesh and theoretical tangents to avoid. No free energy.


I'm on the move now. Back on the bench in a few hours  ;D

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #154 on: June 24, 2009, 07:49:21 PM »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #156 on: June 24, 2009, 08:45:10 PM »
With compressed time you can "run with gain".   "How" doesn't matter.

Agreed, with temporal manipulation pretty much any system can be made to run with gain, not just electronic but mechanical also. If we can generate a localised timewarp with less energy than we can harvest as a result of it then things are looking good. Provided the energy exchange mechanism that your influencing is quite power dense then the numbers should come good. That's why I think influincing an LC oscillation might be a goer, as most know in an LC tank of moderate size you can establish very large power transfers at resonance for very little cost. Amp that by just 10% and you're talking real power.

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to make any system run with gain then a correctly timed oscillating temporal gradient needs to be established across the system, i.e. influence one part of the system more than the other. If the whole system is influenced the same then no magic will happen.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2009, 09:37:59 PM by Yucca »

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Offline Grumpy

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #157 on: June 24, 2009, 10:50:46 PM »
Not sure what "tsl" is getting at with the "time warp" stuff.  As I wrote above, compressed time was sort of a play on words.

Tsl may be referring to the circumventing of the conservation laws or changing the rate of entropy in the system.

"How" is more practical to build a device.  "Why" aides in building theories.



Agreed, with temporal manipulation pretty much any system can be made to run with gain, not just electronic but mechanical also. If we can generate a localised timewarp with less energy than we can harvest as a result of it then things are looking good. Provided the energy exchange mechanism that your influencing is quite power dense then the numbers should come good. That's why I think influincing an LC oscillation might be a goer, as most know in an LC tank of moderate size you can establish very large power transfers at resonance for very little cost. Amp that by just 10% and you're talking real power.

edit:
to make any system run with gain then a correctly timed oscillating temporal gradient needs to be established across the system, i.e. influence one part of the system more than the other. If the whole system is influenced the same then no magic will happen.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #158 on: June 24, 2009, 11:15:47 PM »
@FD,
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So far I've had little more than what SM said would happen. Lots of sparks, heating, lighting light bulbs, burning flesh and theoretical tangents to avoid. No free energy.

I don't consider this a success story...

Let me add one: I know what a lightbulb feels like when the wattage printed on the glass has nothing to do with when the filament snaps due to resonant shockwave Free Clue! application. Try that on your wireless router and tell me what lights up. Uh, you get one guess.
I saw the light in ways that don't fit on a camera from experimenting Free Clue!. I now see here that no experimentation is prominent. Just pictures. In a tube the energy doesn't flow through a solid conductor Free Clue!. It flows through space. Free Clue!
Can you explain the orb in the TPU sings #6 @ :48? I didn't rig this. It was later pointed out to me. With the VLC codec you can see 3 of them. I have a theory(cringe!). But what is seen cannot be explained by present day mental modus operandi... Free Clue! But there it is plain as day. It was done with sound. Maybe the Bose speaker is truly a pure generating device. After all it is ceramic Free Clue!.

Due to experimentation I have come to the conclusion that the experiences from experimenting are far more educational than wondering about what I can and can't do. Since only pictures deem as profit, I would like to see some more. I am not asking for how many ways we can weld a tool to a battery or bar-b-que oneself. Just something beyond shelf items. Marco's dancing magnets Free Clue! are immortal. The rest should aspire to create such great demos. Reproduce something Tesla, Keely, Brown, or Naudin did if the TPU is too vague. Things are spelled out for everyone Free Clue!.
The camp of failure is full of those that only believe with their eyes and not what one can do with application of the mind. You are asking for the standard fare of parlor tricks. Instead of plowing the same row twice I decided to go after what the Masters talk about. I succeeded Free Clue!. That doesn't make me better than others. It makes me aspire to understand and stand on the shoulders of those greater than me. Everyone gets the invitation very few go in.
Is lighting a light the greatest result you can think of? It is basically fire. Make something ring Free Clue! for a change. Patents are riddled with this Free Clue! aspect of new technology. Yet everybody wants fire. Pretty prehistoric if you ask me Free Clue!.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #158 on: June 24, 2009, 11:15:47 PM »
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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #159 on: June 25, 2009, 12:04:24 AM »
GK, you never fail to amaze me.

I had a feeling that asking for a simple coherent answer to a simple coherent question might be simply asking just too much from you.

Actually, in hindsight, a simple 'No', would have sufficed. ::)

I just don't know what's going on here. I do know however that I've got some serious concerns about the mental stability of some of you boys... is there a therapist in the room?

I mean we have some of you posting pin-ups of valves, some of you talking StarTrek (I'm surprised no one has mention dilithium crystals yet), some of you talking a lot and saying absolutely nothing, all this cloak and dagger cryptic nonsense, and oh yes, the ist bloke who is quite obviously trying to get the record for the highest number of stupid and pointless posts. 

What a motley crew.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 09:49:49 AM by Farrah Day »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #160 on: June 25, 2009, 12:08:32 AM »
I don't consider this a success story...

Oh, I do. Some very interesting things have been learned.

For @Yucca, here is a bit of information I've been familiar with for a while. It is put more in context with a TPU than what I use it on.

Please note the polar view of the Earth and the two clocks. One clock is at sea level and the other one mile directly above it. They are atomic clocks. Supposedly, due to frame dragging (time distortion) The mile high clock will run faster than the water logged clock by about 5 us per year. That isn't much. To make a bigger difference the Earth would need to rotate faster, gain more mass and the distance between the clocks could be increased. Theoretically, a bigger difference in time potential (distortion) could be had by making one clock go East and the other West. I'm pretty sure this has and is being done.

Now the second pic: The colors are coordinated with the Earth view. What I'm showing is a cross-section of my theoretical TPU. The green outer windings are the lamp cord. Both sets of blue and red band (collector) are one continuous piece of metal. The top set is going East. The bottom set West. Each set is two turns.

The distance between blue and red is hard to increase so instead we increase the speed of current (more gravity well). Why are the two sets at different orientations, you might ask?

There are two rotating fields. The CCs create the radial one pinned on the axis of the TPU. Each set of loops creates a field as load increases duplicating the distortion effect on the other set.

Now you folks can say I'm nuts. Be my guest. This doesn't work in my TPU yet but the concept is proven to me elsewhere.

What a motley crew.

Thank You!  ;D

Just remember - You did ask for it.

Go ahead and blow off my TD. There is a little bit of this going on in every multi-turn coil.

If you just want to know 'how to do it' then you must figure 'how it works'. The above is conventional Einstein hoopla using terminology I completely disagree with just for you friends here!

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Re: New TPU build
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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #161 on: June 25, 2009, 12:31:46 AM »
BEP

I assume you are refering to Gravitational Time Dilation. And yes, I think NASA have found discrepancies between two atomic clocks flown in opposite directions around the world, but trying to link this in with the workings of a TPU seems a bit tenuous to me.  But... who knows, eh.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #162 on: June 25, 2009, 12:49:26 AM »
BEP

I assume you are refering to Gravitational Time Dilation. And yes, I think NASA have found discrepancies between two atomic clocks flown in opposite directions around the world, but trying to link this in with the workings of a TPU seems a bit tenuous to me.  But... who knows, eh.


All we need are a few ps.

>>Edit: Just ran the numbers again. With the parameters of my current coil I will need an in/out dilation of about 70 ms. - Doable. <<

<Extraneous trouble causing cognitive load removed>

FWIW: I still have doubts about this device being this complicated. I still think a correct design would have a closed loop collector. But, this does provide a difference in potential from one end of the loop to the other.
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Offline innovation_station

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #163 on: June 25, 2009, 01:52:29 AM »
here is a picture .... 

from a few years back ..  ;)

mark holds in his hands what ??   other than the light bulb...

lol lol

where is the transmitter.... ?   ha!    looks like a reciever coil .....

ist!! 

@ gk ...  lol   could it be a copper pipe ...  pumping za eathiser ..... lol  :D

i bet it is high freq ...  hence why he is not eletrocuted   tuned mass to mass   YIKES...

on a silver platter ......  :P

if i catch you comeing back my way im gonna serve it to you .......

white stripes did you turn yours on yet ...... :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j7huh5Egew
« Last Edit: June 25, 2009, 04:19:27 AM by innovation_station »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #164 on: June 25, 2009, 02:25:13 AM »
to  Farrah day 
You are beginning to understand that this forum is crazy just like I have
lot of bs,egos and  insanity.Heres how I view this place imagine a field with lot of chickens.
Some of the chickens are real smart, there at the top of the picking order,then theres the
hidden SM chicken thats also here.In the middle are ,"the I want to  understand chickens(thats you and me and others)"
and the bottom are the idiot,star trek, just plain stupid chickens,and mentally ill chickens.
Every chicken throws chicken  feed,the bottom throw at random,the middle don't know much ,so throw very little.
The top smart chickens throw chicken feed in a sophisticated manner,the SM chicken looks at what the direction is
and throws chicken feed  to enforce a specific motion.All chickens rush to get the chicken feed,
when the camera pans back you see that all the chickens are moving in a circle.Some chickens after a time realize that
there moving in a circle and leave.But it doesn't matter other chickens come in and the circle continues.

 

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