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Offline Grumpy

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #135 on: June 24, 2009, 05:32:51 AM »

Compressed time?  Is this something you just made up?

yep - just made it up - kind of a play on words, bastardized and compressed.

You used the term "warped":

I'm not talking about Schumann here and btw Ronald Mallett, Professor at the University of Connecticut, is thinking that time could be warped.So again, the time around the collectors is warped, now what?

Distortion is a better term.  Thanks BEP.

Of course, whether or not time varies is not important to the task at hand - is it?  One does not need to know the intricate details to make it work.




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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #135 on: June 24, 2009, 05:32:51 AM »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #136 on: June 24, 2009, 05:41:06 AM »
BTW:

My thoughts on the solution for building a TPU that didn't care about right-side up and upside-down:

He added an on-board reference. Another collector, most likely two. The rotation direction was still important but only to the polarity of the output.

The reason the earliest ones only worked right-side up:

The reference was the magnetic field of the Earth, not gravity. Hasn't anyone done experiments with static magnetic fields in-motion within the magnetic field of the Earth?

I have the strong feeling the 'gyroscopic action' was not that simple. It would have been more like 'station keeping'. It would not have only resisted changes in pitch and yaw. It should have resisted horizontal and vertical movement, as well.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #137 on: June 24, 2009, 05:48:23 AM »
Knock Knock... Anybody home?

BEP,

Nice Goggle-Foo skills you got there....

Wrong.. Things can't easily become super luminal.


Maybe you can explain how to easily make an X-shaped wave travel at super luminal speeds?  Or maybe you can explain to me what an X-shaped wave is (This is new to me)?

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http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0305-4470/33/40/318
http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/28606

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #137 on: June 24, 2009, 05:48:23 AM »
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #138 on: June 24, 2009, 05:53:58 AM »
yep - just made it up - kind of a play on words, bastardized and compressed.

You used the term "warped":

Distortion is a better term.  Thanks BEP.


'Warped' probably fits the TPU action better.

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Of course, whether or not time varies is not important to the task at hand - is it?  One does not need to know the intricate details to make it work.


Nope. It doesn't matter because time always wins out. It may slip for a short 'time' relative to the rest but it always wins. Einstein was definitely wrong using the twins and light speed travel example. No matter how fast the speeding twin travels or how long - when he steps out of his near-light speed craft - all is right back in sync again. So I avoid conversations about time travel and anti-gravity. To me, they are jokes.

Time viewing may become possible.

Anti-gravity probably does exist. It'll never be usable.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #139 on: June 24, 2009, 05:59:55 AM »
BEP,

Nice Goggle-Foo skills you got there....


Maybe you can explain how to easily make an X-shaped wave travel at super luminal speeds?  Or maybe you can explain to me what an X-shaped wave is (This is new to me)?

An X-Shaped wave has a real-world existence already. NASA calls it 'magnetic reconnection'. I doubt the pin-heads have made the connection  :D

You don't need to build an X-shaped wave to make a wave faster than c. Head-on collisions are just easier for most to understand.

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Oh! BTW: An X-shaped wave wouldn't travel faster than c. The X shape allows for disconnection then reconnection. Faster than c travel happens to anything in the way of the reconnection, sometimes called a 'slap' or 'clap'.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #140 on: June 24, 2009, 06:35:58 AM »
An X-Shaped wave has a real-world existence already. NASA calls it 'magnetic reconnection'. I doubt the pin-heads have made the connection  :D

You don't need to build an X-shaped wave to make a wave faster than c. Head-on collisions are just easier for most to understand.

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Oh! BTW: An X-shaped wave wouldn't travel faster than c. The X shape allows for disconnection then reconnection. Faster than c travel happens to anything in the way of the reconnection, sometimes called a 'slap' or 'clap'.

Well, I was hoping you'd answer my questions   :D...    But a good reference will work.  Do you have a reference for the above?

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« Reply #141 on: June 24, 2009, 07:20:56 AM »
Well, I was hoping you'd answer my questions   :D...    But a good reference will work.  Do you have a reference for the above?

Oh. One of those.  ;)

Yes I do. One of them is mine.

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This is not one but probably more relevant to a TPU....

http://www.physorg.com/news88249076.html
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Past experiments have demonstrated that the group velocities of other materials’ components—such as optical, microwave, and electrical pulses—can exceed the speed of light. But while the individual spectral components of these pulses have velocities very close to c, the components of sound waves are almost six orders of magnitude slower than light (compare 340 m/s to 300,000,000 m/s).

“All of the interest in fast (and slow) wave velocity for all types of waves (optical, electrical, and acoustic) was initially to gain a fundamental understanding of the characteristics of wave propagation,” Robertson told PhysOrg.com. “Phase manipulation can change the phase relationship between these materials’ components. Using sound to create a group velocity that exceeds the speed of light is significant here because it dramatically illustrates this point, due to the large difference between the speeds of sound and light.”

The experiment was conducted by two undergrads, an area high school teacher and two high school students, who received funding by an NSF STEP (Science, technology, engineering, math Talent Enhancement Program) grant. The grant aims to increase recruitment and retention of students to these subjects.

In their experiment, the researchers achieved superluminal sound velocity by rephasing the spectral components of the sound pulses, which later recombine to form an identical-looking part of the pulse much further along within the pulse. So it’s not the actual sound waves that exceed c, but the waves’ “group velocity,” or the “length of the sample divided by the time taken for the peak of a pulse to traverse the sample.”

“The sound-faster-than-light result will not be a surprise to the folks who work closely in this area because they recognize that the group velocity (the velocity that the peak of a pulse moves) is not merely connected to the velocity of all of the frequencies that superpose to create that pulse,” explained Robertson, “but rather to the manner in which a material or a filter changes the phase relationship between these components. By appropriate phase manipulation (rephasing) the group velocity can be increased or decreased.”

Like I said.... Everything is relative.

On the references relating to X waves.... I read about them in a library about 25 years ago. The magnetic reconnection is very recent. Google it. They accepted PayPal. There we three theories last count. I doubt a single one of the theorists have every smacked crossing magnetic fields together.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #141 on: June 24, 2009, 07:20:56 AM »
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #142 on: June 24, 2009, 08:06:30 AM »
mmmkay... 

I'm starting see  why there are over 20k TPU related posts on this site,  and so few  productive/informative discussions.

Farrah Day,

Good Luck!

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #143 on: June 24, 2009, 08:31:07 AM »
I've been watching and keeping out of this subject for a very long time in order to analyze people's progress without intervention.

Did anyone ever produce any physical verifiable proof that the TPU is achievable in construction and can light even a 1 Watt lamp given a smaller Watt input? 

The suspense is killing me!  If anyone in the last 20K posts has found something even close to this please let me know.

Last year I witnessed a live UFO and ever since then my core life beliefs have been really been badly shaken...I believe in just about anything you could throw at me after seeing that...LOL...but in the end I'm afraid I need to see things to believe it...show me Watts in vs Watts out and I'll take notice.

So if anyone has any TPU that can produce electricity please let us know otherwise I will continue to listen and not really believe  :P

Regards,
Paul 

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Re: New TPU build
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #144 on: June 24, 2009, 12:49:08 PM »
Personally I think it would be a good idea to keep an open mind as to the energy source of a TPU, as we are all only suggesting theories at present - any one of which may apply in full or part... or not at all.  It may well be easier to disprove certain theories when a TPU is up and running, than trying to prove theories on paper beforehand.

Like you stated in the past Newbie, at quantum level physics as we know it does not necessarily apply, as things appear to become a little 'weird'. And, let's face it, quantum theory and quantum mechanics are relatively new disciplines of science with much yet to be discovered and much more yet to be understood.

BEP, that link you provided is interesting, but hard to assimilate. They appear to be getting something out EVEN before they put something in. I suspect that something is not right here as surely the issue is no longer speed but time. Aren't they effectively seeing an event which has not yet occured? 

On a different note, has anyone any views on why 3 collector coils are used by SM. Is it simply to allow different configurations of ouput voltage, or is there a more fundamental reason behind this?

GK, by way of a follow on from Goaties thread above, I see you have numerous U-tube videos and a couple of threads a mile long. However, I was wondering if you can tell me whether or not you have been able to replicate SM's effect with your TPU device... without me having to trawl through hundreds of pages to find the answer.

Have you been able to power up a few mains light bulbs from your TPU?  Is your collector coil delivering more power than your control coils are feeding it?

A simple answer would be appreciated. 

No need for proof of workings, cryptic messages or poetry, but you can elaborate on a simple 'yes' or 'no' - just thinking ahead.


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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #145 on: June 24, 2009, 02:17:00 PM »
A handful of folks have demonstrated the lighting of lamps from the output of a TPU attempt.

No one has provided proof of more out than in. Certainly, none has been provided above info from SM.

There is no list of instructions that will definitely lead anyone to a working TPU.

Solutions to some of the working aspects have been offered but none can be proven as part of a TPU until someone builds a working TPU and incorporates those solutions.

Sorry about being so wordy. I get that way when away from the bench. Soon, I'll be home again and you won't hear from me for long periods.

One last "flight of fancy?"

Whether you can understand it or not - velocity is a key factor in any device or the math associated with it. In some cases 'group velocity' can replace velocity.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #145 on: June 24, 2009, 02:17:00 PM »
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« Reply #146 on: June 24, 2009, 05:07:09 PM »
 :)

I have just cleaned the garden stuff, and i'm now sitting in the backyard with my laptop and a nice cup of cofee, life's good  :D

What was i going to do?
Oh i was going to post something.

Steven Marks TPU is simple, like he said, it uses simple electronic concepts.
However when something is not well understood, it can become quite difficult.

It's like comparing a car mechanic, who knows all about automobiles, to a guy that sells vacuumcleaners, he has a certain understanding about vacuumcleaners, but pherhaps less about automobiles and vice versa.
Both devices have a motor, rotation, some electronics and etc.

Now i have always wonderd if there are vacuum cleaners that run on gasoline in stead of electricity.
But i know there are also cars that run on electricity.
I have asked a regular car mechanic about electric cars and he admitted he did not understand shit about the tech inside.
All he was familiar with was the fuel engines.

So there is a leap between these certain technologies and they can only expand their knowledge by studying and repairing these things.
Same goes with the TPU.
Steven described some easy to do experiments, and only few took the effort to do them.
Then there was another guy who also described other experiments, and again only few took the effort to do them.
The rest of the people are either going from theory to theory or they are going from theory to theory.
Like i said above, there is only one way to get answers, and that is by trying/learning.

In the end when all is well understood by the many, most people will freak out on how easy it really is, and they never thought about it but go like HEY i knew that all along.....I was just thinking it had to be more complicated...

And so the story continues  :)

M.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #147 on: June 24, 2009, 05:45:31 PM »
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It'll never be usable.

This is the statement that annihilates dreams and as long as this answer abounds then there is no help available.

@BEP,
No disrespect meant.

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« Reply #148 on: June 24, 2009, 06:22:31 PM »
 ;) best part to make tpu

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #149 on: June 24, 2009, 06:25:31 PM »
Hello all,

@Marko

I can only say that I fully agree with your words!!

Otto

 

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