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Offline dutchy1966

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #240 on: June 27, 2009, 08:03:05 PM »
Farrah,

The design of the coils is still up for debate. The general accepted coil layout was first proposed by user Tao a few years ago now.
Maybe you see a different arrangement.....

Here is what SM gave us on coils:

53.   About the collector:
It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. Three is important.
You can do many things with three coils.
You can run them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel etc.
You can run a separate frequency into each coil for better control on large power units if need be.
The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.
Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together.

62.   Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.
There need to be three of them all the way around.
Start them up one at a time each.
First frequency then second harmonic component into the second, then the third.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #240 on: June 27, 2009, 08:03:05 PM »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #241 on: June 27, 2009, 09:15:37 PM »
You may well suggest it BEP, but magnetic fields would seem to be one of the only things we can be sure are interacting. Out of curiousity what do you suggest I replace 'magnetic' with?

And Grumps, some time back you said the Spherics design might be the place to start, yet Spherics talks about the effect of producing one magnetic field inside another. So, please elaborate on 'Double ditto'.

Wattsup, would you kindly point me to where we have a first hand description of SM's coil layout. It would afterall be nice to get just one thing unequivocally substantiated around here.

There are other fields besides magnetic fields.  How is a magnetic field created in the first place?

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #242 on: June 27, 2009, 09:18:31 PM »
what about air as a core?there is a solution also for dealing with the fields that would be not contained and that's related to the topic here. :P

Love to discuss that solution, which is sure as hell alluding me.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #242 on: June 27, 2009, 09:18:31 PM »
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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #243 on: June 27, 2009, 10:00:53 PM »
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There are other fields besides magnetic fields.  How is a magnetic field created in the first place?

Oh, give me a break, why can't you people stay a little more grounded? Fair enough there are other fields, so what!  Are you really suggesting we should try to build a TPU on the basis that there are other fields beside magnetic fields?  Very intriguing... so where do you suggest we start with that one?

Don't tell me I know, 'I could explain it but I don't have to, so I reserve the right not to.'  Anywhere close?

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Here is what SM gave us on coils:

53.   About the collector:
It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. Three is important.
You can do many things with three coils.
You can run them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel etc.
You can run a separate frequency into each coil for better control on large power units if need be.
The control wiring is vertically wound in several segments around each of the horizontal collector coils.
Other control wires are wound around all of the horizontal collector coils together.

62.   Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on top of the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.
There need to be three of them all the way around.
Start them up one at a time each.
First frequency then second harmonic component into the second, then the third.


Yes, thanks Dutchy. I'd read that, but given the suspect nature of info around here I just wondered if it had actually been substantiated anywhere independently.  I take it then that all that has been done is based solely upon the supposed emails from SM to Mannix. Blimey that is one tenuous thread and great leap of faith on which to base years of discussion and numerous TPU replication attempts. 

If SM was so secretive, why talk to Mannix? And if you are going to spill the beans, why do it through a third party?  This does not sit right with me. I get the impression that SM was a front man, someone who enjoyed the attention and a control freak... if so, he would not want to give up this control to a third party.

Why does Mannix not post anymore? Could it be because the seeds have now been planted and the shoots of misdirection are thriving?

Does anyone actually know who Mannix is/was? 

Because if, as I suspect, Mannix was SM, then you've all really been taken for a jolly ride to wonderland!

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #244 on: June 27, 2009, 10:15:11 PM »
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Yes, thanks Dutchy. I'd read that, but given suspect nature of info around here I just wondered if it had actually been substantiated anywhere independently.  I take it then that all that has been done is based solely upon the supposed emails from SM to Mannix. Blimey that is one tenuous thread and great leap of faith on which to base years of discussion and numerous TPU replication attempts. 

If SM was so secretive, why talk to Mannix? And if you are going to spill the beans, why not do it in person?  This does not sit right with me.

Why does Mannix not post anymore? Could it be because the seeds have no been planted?

Does anyone actually know who Mannix is/was? 

Because if, as I suspect, Mannix was SM, then you've all really been taken for a jolly ride to wonderland!

Yes I guess this is all based on the info we have been given by Mannix. It is all vague and therefore everyone reads something different in it.
But once you stop trusting the source there is nothing left to go by.... Maybe it has been trip to wonderland...

Wether Mannix is SM I can't say for sure, but my feeling says they're actually two different persons.
 Mannix has been on here a lot and still even is every now and then. He's even been on other boards discussing the emails he supposedly got from SM.
I would say that if he is SM he would have made a mistake by now that would have given it away.....

And, for him not posting anymore, I think there is a very simple explanation; SM stopped communicating and Mannix knows nothing more than we do....

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #244 on: June 27, 2009, 10:15:11 PM »
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Offline Farrah Day

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #245 on: June 27, 2009, 10:40:40 PM »
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I would say that if he is SM he would have made a mistake by now that would have given it away.....


If Mannix is SM I think somewhere he will have made a mistake, it maybe that we've simply not looked hard enough for it. Nobody really wants to destroy the dream. I daresay a thorough analysis of the Mannix/SM info might provide an answer. Then again maybe I'm just being over-sceptical. Though let's face it, it would be folly to take anyone or anything on trust alone around here.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #246 on: June 27, 2009, 11:09:51 PM »
Oh, give me a break, why can't you people stay a little more grounded? Fair enough there are other fields, so what!  Are you really suggesting we should try to build a TPU on the basis that there are other fields beside magnetic fields?  Very intriguing... so where do you suggest we start with that one?


OK, smart-ass, how is a magnetic field created?





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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #246 on: June 27, 2009, 11:09:51 PM »
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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #247 on: June 27, 2009, 11:28:34 PM »
BEP, maybe it's just me, but I find it rather odd that you'd rather dismiss the interaction of magnetic fields as playing a crucial part in the workings of a TPU, when that is the one thing the coils will certainly be producing.

I don't dismiss them in any way. I'm just saying don't look at one thing and expect to know what the other is doing.

Electric Field From Wiki:

"In physics, the space surrounding an electric charge or in the presence of a time-varying magnetic field has a property called an electric field. This electric field exerts a force on other electrically charged objects. The concept of an electric field was introduced by Michael Faraday."

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I fail to see the logic in your post.

I'm failing to see things, also.

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Are you saying that you think magnetic fields are 2-dimensional?

My reference to 2D is meaning what you will see on a scope. All you will see is amplitude and time. Unless you know how to make good use of a scope you will not visualize much else. If you use the usual scope probe connection methods you will only see the 'electric'.

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Or is this just humour you've picked up from Grumps?  :)

Are you kidding me? Grumpy has no sense of humor. How do you think he came by that handle?

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How do you know this BEP? Where is there a reference to this?

My description of what might be a logical path for trial (copper core or 'collector' with a means of circling it with a magnetic field the same way a magnetic field circles a current carrying wire) is a proposal and based upon the supposed texts from SM and classic physics.

BEP,

By temporal did you mean  casmir?  Or gravity?     "temporal force" is more of a philosophical term  that doesn't have much meaning.

Hardly.

Many words must have more meanings than I know.
I suppose the term is more common in neural reseach and studies of light (field not force).

Temporal Fields as they apply to light:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0905.4381

Temporal fields as the apply to EM would be like the theory of black holes and how they effect the EM spectrum.

To put it simply: An area, affect or space that causes a variation of time. So acceleration and EM could fit under the right conditions.

You may continue blowing-off my references to time. It is no longer a matter of opinion. These things are empirical facts.

Grounded?

I am grounded within my limited knowledge and understanding.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #248 on: June 28, 2009, 12:47:58 AM »

Lol, some of you guys are digging waaay too deep into this 'SM TPU Mystery'..      I've heard some speculation that SM visits this site and tries to mislead people.   Please tell me....    Why the heck would he  actually do this??    Think about it...      Is there a single logical reason for him to come here and try to mislead with people (I can't think of any)?   And if this is true,   I think it would probably be safe to realize that SM is either a nut or a  fraud and move on to something else.


« Last Edit: June 28, 2009, 01:55:06 AM by newbie123 »

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Re: New TPU build
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« Reply #249 on: June 28, 2009, 01:08:08 AM »

Hardly.

Many words must have more meanings than I know.
I suppose the term is more common in neural reseach and studies of light (field not force).

Temporal Fields as they apply to light:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0905.4381


Silly me... I thought you might have been talking about some home baked science like this..  http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7997/temporal.html   ..





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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #250 on: June 28, 2009, 04:11:42 AM »
Silly me... I thought you might have been talking about some home baked science like this..  http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7997/temporal.html   ..

Nope. I don't think he is quite there yet.

You and Farrah please continue your efforts. Good luck. I'll not pollute your thread anymore and eagerly await any positive results you may find.

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #250 on: June 28, 2009, 04:11:42 AM »
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« Reply #251 on: June 28, 2009, 05:25:37 AM »
Nope. I don't think he is quite there yet.

BEP,

Please don't act all mystical,    and infer that  you have a working SM TPU....    I'm not going to buy that bull shit either..   If you had a working TPU  you wouldn't  be here..   Bye!



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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #252 on: June 28, 2009, 05:40:10 AM »
Farray  Day and newbie123 are operatives trying to figure out who has or knows what.

Further discussion with them only does more harm.


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I wish "The Buzz" was here to ride you both like a rented mule.


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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #253 on: June 28, 2009, 05:53:24 AM »
Farray  Day and newbie123 are operatives trying to figure out who has or knows what.

Oh shit!  Grumpy, you just blew my cover....   Wtf am I gunna do now!!!

Lol...

Sorry guys.. I'm just sick and tired of all the BSing  going on here..


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And here's the reality of this  "Operative" situation...    And I find this I find  very, very bizarre.... 


The more logical or scientific a thread gets with regard to the TPUs operation...  The more idiots pop up, and the more they try to derail the conversation, change the subject, etc....    (basically [intentionally or unintentionally] ruin any sort of progress) 
 

Now if I  was really an "operative".... I would just love this nonsense, right?   The problem is:   I can't stand it!!!

The clowns  who support this nonsense are the ones you should be concerned about...   They're the ones that  give OU a bad name.


Am I the only one noticing this strange phenomena?


« Last Edit: June 28, 2009, 08:35:30 AM by newbie123 »

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Re: New TPU build
« Reply #254 on: June 28, 2009, 06:29:04 AM »
trying to figure out who has or knows what.
Grumpy,

I'll give you some credit  here....     This is exactly what I am doing, I am trying to figure out who has or knows something...       Is this a bad thing?   If it is.... Why??       Is sharing information and asking questions really  bad?   

FFS, wake up and smell the coffee guys......




 

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