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Author Topic: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU  (Read 19536 times)

Offline jonnydavro

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2009, 11:58:32 PM »
Hi.I have enclosed the circuit i am using.I find that this circuit gives a high degree of speed and amp control from 1.2v upwards.There is also an option to recover bemf from the relay in series with the trigger circuit which you may be able to put to good use but the diodes and caps can be omitted.
Regarding rotor choice.Both the cylinder magnet and sphere's can obtain high rpms and stability depends to some extent on the load placed on the rotor.An evenly spread load won't effect the rotor as much as an unbalanced load.That said there are ways to stabilise the sphere without impacting rpm's so it may be best to try both types to see whats best suited to your needs.
Here is a link to the standard Bedini circuit so you can compare the two.This circuit also works fine but with heavier current draw.
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Inventors/JohnBedini/SG/RickFriedrich_SSG/Schematic2.jpg
Regarding trifiar coils.I dont have any of John Bedini's plans but here is link to a Trifillar ssg which is built to john's specs but i would try winding three 250 gram spools of 26 swg wire.This keeps everything 1:1
http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Bedini_Monopole3/message/2613?var=1&l=1
Here are a couple of links for diametric magnets and sphere's as these can be hard to source.
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=16
http://www.first4magnets.com/diametrically-magnetised-magnets-32-c.asp
Hope this helps regards jonny

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2009, 11:58:32 PM »

Offline tishatang

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2009, 04:56:23 AM »
@Jonnydavro
Thanks for your input re circuit and where to get hard to find cylinder magnets.  I like the way they spin in your videos.  We will not use the third winding for bemf, but will be used for feedback to gain power after we figure out how to collect the energy.  The pulses sent to this coil will be in phase with the energizing coil.  That way when the magnet wants to slow down when loaded, the feedback will drive the magnet harder and maintain its speed.  We will have to do our own engineering of how to control this feedback to prevent runaway.  So, for now just wind three stranded coil and use two for the standard Bedini motor circuit.  The third coil will be there when we are ready for it.

@Otto
It has been about two years since I have been contributing anything about the TPU.  It was just getting too technical in the posts.  I will review the videos.  It is good they are on Google video because youtube is currently blocked by the China firewall.

There is one thing SM said that I don't think was really discussed on the forums?  That was that you could send more than on frequency down a wire (coil) and each would maintain its own integrity.  One would normally think that to mix two frequencies, one would have to have two separate coils next to each other.  But actually,  you could just send the two freqs  into a single wire and accomplish the same thing.

Could it be that you are sending two or three freqs into a single wire wound mobius coil?  That within the coil, they will do their thing and mix and create giants spikes as their peaks merge?  Then these spikes create the scalar magic?   Does this idea make you happy?

Tishatang

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2009, 05:51:26 AM »
Hello all,

all your posts are OK but Im still missing the main point.

Where are now the "elite members"??

Shouldnt they be the leaders here and not a little man from a little country?
The last night I couldnt sleep because I was suching in my little brain for the worst words that you cant imagine, to wright them down here and to show what Im thinking about the people here but....I have to be nice!! And this is not easy for me because I trusted the people hereand they misleaded ME!! Yes, I was misleaded.

Otto

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2009, 05:51:26 AM »
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Offline Mk1

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2009, 06:40:29 AM »
@Tishatang

I think 2 freq one coil is easier then 2 coil , usually the second coil is almost useless since it will trigger the other coil anyway.


@Otto

You work hard , I hat off to you .

But to me elite doesn't mean much , but a bunch of guy that like sounding smarter then the other. They all have in common the tpu , well the big part of it .

I my self started from the toroid , that you can see , in some tpu the first one bail wire on a dvd plastic holder and the big one has 2 toroid .

I find it really interesting how the tpu and hendershot motor have the same basic parts and configuration , also the story is quite similar.

I do think there is some people misleading people , but mostly by vanity .
And some are payed.

ed leedskalnin showed us how to get free orbit , a secondary should give free power?

Mark







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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2009, 07:55:48 AM »
Hello all,

all your posts are OK but Im still missing the main point.

Where are now the "elite members"??

Shouldnt they be the leaders here and not a little man from a little country?
The last night I couldnt sleep because I was suching in my little brain for the worst words that you cant imagine, to wright them down here and to show what Im thinking about the people here but....I have to be nice!! And this is not easy for me because I trusted the people hereand they misleaded ME!! Yes, I was misleaded.

Otto

Why this game Otto?why is this HocusPocus needed? You are a elite member afterall.Why don't you say clear what you have to say if you can bring others closer to the Truth?

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2009, 07:55:48 AM »
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Offline tishatang

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2009, 08:14:01 AM »
@Otto
You brought up a good point.  Where are the main players?  When I was more active here, I remember what must have been hundreds of pages of posts on just how to get rotation of a magnetic field.  This was a major problem that did not seem to have simple solutions.  Recently, I finally did manage to get around the firewall and decided to look at the Bedini no bearing motor thread.  It relied on youtube videos a lot plus I thought it was standard Bedini stuff.  When I finally accessed youtube and saw what was going on, I realized a major problem solved for the TPU.  I did not sleep all night, my mind going through how I was going to break the good news.  I appreciate the few that have joined in here, but the silence is deafening.  However, it is better to have quality than quantity.

@Mark
Thanks for joining in.  You expressed a lot of my thought exactly.

@All
It seems to me in general is a lack of curiosity about unexpected results of experiments.  For example if you go here:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/spgen/index.htm

Naudin does not follow through with more experiments of his soliton pulse caduceus coil.  What is causing the ringing after the big pulse on the scope.  Is it a resonance of the coil or is it a resonance of the ether?  He does not show a test of a different input frequency.  If the ringing is at the same freq, it would suggest a harmonic of the ether.  What would happen if the coil were near a spinning magnetic field at the speed of the ringing?

Tishatang




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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2009, 08:16:32 AM »
Hello all,

@Mark

I saw a lot of toroids that could be some sort of a TPU. Especially the "sweet drawing" showed at magnetism.fateback.

Not to mention Teslas toroids. They are fantastic.

Edit:

@tishatang

it seems that we have a lot of loosers here. They thought the TPU would be solved in a few months. HA!¨
As they had no success, a lot of them blamed SM....you remember the thread ....

And ALL THE TIME THEY HAD THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEIR NOSES!!!

But todays people dont want to LISTEN, not to mention that they dont want to WORK, but yes, they want success!!

Otto

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
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Offline Hoppy

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2009, 09:13:51 AM »
Hello all,

@Mark

I saw a lot of toroids that could be some sort of a TPU. Especially the "sweet drawing" showed at magnetism.fateback.

Not to mention Teslas toroids. They are fantastic.

Edit:

@tishatang

it seems that we have a lot of loosers here. They thought the TPU would be solved in a few months. HA!¨
As they had no success, a lot of them blamed SM....you remember the thread ....

And ALL THE TIME THEY HAD THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEIR NOSES!!!

But todays people dont want to LISTEN, not to mention that they dont want to WORK, but yes, they want success!!

Otto

From what you say, as an elite you appear to have succeeded in building a working TPU. If this is the case you are either prepared to share your success or not. If you are, then please share your wisdom with us and tell us what we are not smelling 'in front of our noses'.

Hoppy

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2009, 09:31:46 AM »

Where are the main players? 

Tishatang

They are long gone.

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2009, 09:31:46 AM »
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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2009, 09:33:26 AM »
Helo all

@Hoppy

Im still a little man from a little country, nothing else.

In this moment I have a biiiig NOTHING. I have a TPU with wrong cores of course ( that was clear from the first moment I builded them)....but from my work and only from my work I have a much better understanding whats going on in a TPU then other people. No, I dont want to wright how I see a Tpu is working, or what Tesla did with his toroids because there would be needed a lot of pages and a lot of time. For me its better to spend this time with building my ..... version of a TPU. Finally after hmmm.....over 150 complete builded TPUs, not even to mention thousands of coils so I could learn how and why...

To share is nice but I would be a total idiot to do this because in the past we all made TPUs that were a "joke"!!! I touched a wire, burned a lot of times my fingers....a TPU with a core is something totally different. This is NOT for people without expirience. Such a TPU is a real monster, even for me. All I want to say that I can show the people a working TPU only when its finnished and safe.
Im wrighting this because you saw how SM lighted a few bulbs.....this was only to show you that a TPU is able to do it. To show you that in a TPU is power. But dont even think SM showed you the maximal output power of a TPU!

Otto


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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2009, 12:21:40 PM »
Hi Marco.
Glad to see you are still here and not long gone.

@All
Steven Mark himself said he gave enough info out for someone to figure it out.  He had to speak in parables, because he sold everything out to a corporation.  Non-disclosure affidavits forbid you to let the cat out of the bag.  When the corp applied for patents, it is obvious the were commandeered in the "Interests of National Security."  It is a threat to big oil, big electric and anything to do with the combustion engine. 

The fact remains, in spite of the dangers in figuring it out, it is the "holy grail" of energy for the common man.  We have new parameters to play with and everyone has a part to play.  As long as we focus on the goal and not get diverted, slow and steady will win the race.

Tishatang

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2009, 01:55:44 PM »
Hello all,

@tishatang

you nailed it!

Dont you all think its the "last minute" to finish the TPU?

Look the big changes we have on our little poor planet. You all can see the disasters.

Otto

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2009, 04:57:21 PM »
HELOO  TO ALL 

ITS SEAMS THAT MY FAKE VIDEO WHIT BIG FLAME SPARKS IS THE BEST TPU IN THIS LAST YEARS <IST  @OTTO>

 ;) I SEE HERE NOTHING  I JUST AGAING LIKE TO GIVE HOPE HERE TO MAKE  EXPERIMENT  OR IF IT DONT KNOW HOW THEN MAKE FAKE VIDEO  ;)

@MANNIX  WHAT YOU THING FOR S.M TPU IS TRUE THAT IN CENTER HAS VORTEX LIKE JET ENGINE  WHIT DC  AND  AC  8)

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2009, 05:00:32 PM »
HEY @MANNIX  I MAST SEE HOW MUSCH I HAVE WASTE THE ELEKTRICYT IN MY  WATT METER  ;D

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Re: ELECTRO/MECHANICAL HYBRID TPU
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2009, 02:21:58 AM »
@all

I think that those that have parts of the tpu working should try to create new treads but not in the tpu tread box , but concentrate on teaching parts of it , basic principal , and let people work together , not the usual typical tup dynamics . Plus is sound more reasonable when more people get the basics and people will join , but everyone wants to make it first bragging rights , will never help anyone.

Sm told us not big circuit , its all in the coils , so i started there in the jt tread , since tpu use a ferrite toroid , remember the tpu doesn't work on 12 v , remember the one that gives 60 volts and if you remove the magnet the voltage drops , and the 15 inch one has 2 ferrite toroid , i never saw any mention of this , but that is where i started , no know it all , good people working together , hell we turned a led lighter into a clf one that runs on less then a volt . i have learned about coil , SM told me about it!

I started at the base not the roof , but we may meet at mid point!

Mark

 

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