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Author Topic: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine  (Read 28019 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #15 on: June 05, 2009, 12:57:35 AM »
...with a hint of influence from John Ecklin.

And a bit of John Deere in there, too, I believe.

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derricka

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2009, 10:44:14 AM »
...and a bit of Gustave Froment , Daniel Davis, and Charles Page.

Don't recognise the names? Not to worry, they are just a little before your time. They built electric motors in the 1840's.  Solenoid driven, reciprocating electric engines are nothing new.

http://www.sparkmuseum.com/MOTORS.HTM

gmeast

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2009, 04:47:18 PM »
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Or, more likely (or rather, more possible, since the alternative that you mention is impossible) he is making the same old same old mistakes made by Bedini and other pulse motor builders, who do not understand how to measure energy and power properly.
It is this failure to actually make more energy out than in, not some esoteric chemistry or weird physics of lead-acid batteries, that prevents them from closing the loop and running without batteries.
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I have noticed that "they" always insist on using 'new' batteries for these experiments ... yes I know ... good science, good baseline data, etc.  But here's what I have found in years of tinkering with pulsed motors.

Bedini, Newman and the other COP>1 designs using batteries (new), have ended with the following result (my testing).

The batteries "appear" to remain charged and may even increase in voltage a little, but upon checking the specific gravity of the battery acid it is discovered that the batteries are actually going dead.  New or reconditioned battery chemistry seems to maintain the voltage but not the capacity of the battery.

I have noticed this before when I have taken readings on a new battery that has been used, NOT recharged but left to sit.  The Voltage will creep back up and read 12.8 - 13 volts or so but even a small load will 'take it down".

petersone

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2009, 06:21:00 PM »
hi gmeast
Even a complete novice knows voltage on it's own means nothing,but it seems that people, who should know better, give it as proof,I don't understand it.
peter

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2009, 08:54:01 PM »
Perhaps Mylow and Archer Quinn can close the loop on this one?

Goat

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2009, 10:57:58 PM »
Hi All...In order to get to the bottom of this there is only one option...Validate!

All comments at this point is speculation.  I still haven't found a reference to the patent application.

Please keep all negative comments to a dull roar and pressure PESN or OU dot com et al. to comment on this subject by validation of said OU in this configuration.

Anyone here living near this guy or can contact him?

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2009, 04:38:15 AM »
Hi All...In order to get to the bottom of this there is only one option...Validate!

All comments at this point is speculation.  I still haven't found a reference to the patent application.

Please keep all negative comments to a dull roar and pressure PESN or OU dot com et al. to comment on this subject by validation of said OU in this configuration.

Anyone here living near this guy or can contact him?

Regards,
Paul

The article was from 2008. If this thing really did what they claim, we would have read something else by now...

Goat

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2009, 05:23:10 AM »
Well this is the way I see it as many other OU claims, it's a simple 3 step program.

1. Where's the proof.
2. Where's the proof.
3. Where's the proof.

So far I've seen many claims over the years, I was just hoping that someone may have encountered this device and seen proof positive that it's feasible.

And the OU prize goes on unclaimed....oh well...Next Prochain Suivant (Half English and French saying that means Next sucker up!)

But you never know...I'm still waiting for proof of said OU claims from the last 100 years or more!

Yes the article may be old but the story is the same  >:( where's the proof?  Anyone here found OU yet?

Regards,
Paul

ramset

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2009, 05:47:00 AM »
Oklahoma Ng

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Re: Inventor Jeff Baird unveiled an electromagnetic engine
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2013, 09:22:02 AM »
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@ TinselKoala

I agree with your healthy skepticism and agree with certain things you mention but in this business you have to keep hope that someone actually will pull ONE OU device out of the magicians hat and show the world with proper measurements and procedures to prove that it's possible...or not  ;)

Having seen many claims like this one it could turn out to be a dud, who knows, we've certainly seen enough of those  :-\

The intent of opening this post was to find more information on this device from whoever might happen to read it and make a connection.

Regards,
Paul
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I know Jeff and I can assure you the engine is not a dud.