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Author Topic: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?  (Read 26727 times)

Offline RunningBare

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #75 on: June 04, 2009, 04:58:30 PM »
But, if I come up with a working FE device per any anyone's standards, confirmed and available to all, and THEN I admit I killed an alien for the plans, would you believe me?

In all seriousness, I think you'll be doing this communicty good offering your services and online facilities.

Bring the alien body for autopsy(assuming you have not started an intergalactic war), get independent third party validation that the alien is indeed not of this earth and I might allow you the freedom to use the words reptilian overlords with no risk of a ban.

In all seriousness I agree, the tree could do with a little shaking to see what drops out, I very much enjoy replication even if I do not believe it will work, it's an exercise building and creating, but my creative juices gets badly interrupted when the thread I'm getting ideas from suddenly turns to MiB and other odd conspiracies.

I know there are plenty of bad dudes out there with vested interest, but if I was one of them looking at this community I would not feel the least bit threatened, for the simple reason no one has yet proved over unity(with the exception of nuclear energy)

Oh, one other thing, I'd ban people selling kits claiming to be over unity, instead I'd have advertisements that point to legitimate firms for the components needed, Magniworks is a good example of why this is needed.     

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #76 on: June 04, 2009, 05:46:17 PM »
I had considered the same, unfortunately if I went by say wattsup's rules the site would be deserted, I'd allow all the crazy inventions and discussions about them, but, the first mention of a vision from God, BAN!, the first mention of MiB, BAN!, the first mention of aliens giving them the secret, BAN!

Now with all that in mind and looking around the FE community, I can see my site would be extremely unpopular.

C'mon RB. You could have the MOST popular site on the internet if you go about it right.

Imagine a VR environment which has:

1) A museum of photos and videos of actual devices (working or not)

2) A gallery of drawings and designs

3) A library of documents

4) An asylum for discussing wacko ideas

5) A lab for experimental procedures and results

6) A think tank for rational discussion of fringe topics

7) A school to learn about mainstream ideas

8) Area 51 for alien technology

9) A mountain for divine enlightenment (Sinai, Olympus, Kailash, etc.)

10) A soapbox for budding preachers and prophets

11) A sensory deprivation chamber for deep introspection

12) A forum for active debates

13) A jail for those who violate the TOS

14) A rumor mill

15) Illuminati enclave for MiBs and disinformation

16) And, of course, the news desk with the latest headlines

Everything would need to be hyperlinked. If you saw an interesting device in the museum, you would want to review any patents and documentation for the device from the library, examine any experimental evidence, and participate in any discussions.

Anyone serving time in jail would have read-only priveleges, except with the other inmates.


Did I forget anything?

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #77 on: June 04, 2009, 06:02:43 PM »
Did I forget anything?
Yeah, time and resources, I do not know if you remember but I did attempt this kind of thing in VR using Steorn as the basis, it had several visitors over the course of a month, not worth my time and effort.

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #77 on: June 04, 2009, 06:02:43 PM »
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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #78 on: June 04, 2009, 06:09:18 PM »
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574
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Yes, I believe Sterling Allan is a sincere truthful honest person but misguided.
25 Votes (28%)
No, Sterling Allan is well aware that he continues to perpetuate a fraud bringing shame on the free energy community
63 Votes (72%)

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #79 on: June 06, 2009, 02:16:28 AM »
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574
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Yes, I believe Sterling Allan is a sincere truthful honest person but misguided.
25 Votes (28%)
No, Sterling Allan is well aware that he continues to perpetuate a fraud bringing shame on the free energy community
64 Votes (72%)

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #80 on: June 06, 2009, 04:47:27 AM »
I intend to hold no punches so long as folk are being screwed over
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Does anyone think Sterling might have learned a little from the Tilley and Mylow (and many other) embarrassments?

Sterling learns well, he learns that some folk will not listen, he learns that he can still promote such things and possibly make a buck off it, he learns there are a lot of gullible people in the world, he learns that he can take advantage of this, , what he does not learn is that while he promotes this stuff whether  positive or negative means he is himself a con man.

@wattsup
You may close this thread because you think it does not conform to the rules of the forum, but ask yourself this question, are you truly comfortable with folk being taken for a ride because you deem naysayers are in the wrong?, do you really wish to be a part of that con or do you want to continue the research you hold so dear without this kind of thing interrupting it?, be a moderator and consider the continued promotion of claims even when bad is completely out of order, it does not matter if Sterling puts in huge bold letters DEBUNKED so long as the claim, links to materials, links to claimant remain on his website.

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #81 on: June 07, 2009, 02:02:44 AM »
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574
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Yes, I believe Sterling Allan is a sincere truthful honest person but misguided.
26 Votes (29%)

No, Sterling Allan is well aware that he continues to perpetuate a fraud bringing shame on the free energy community
65 Votes (71%)

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #82 on: June 08, 2009, 11:51:47 AM »
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574
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Yes, I believe Sterling Allan is a sincere truthful honest person but misguided.
29 Votes (31%)
No, Sterling Allan is well aware that he continues to perpetuate a fraud bringing shame on the free energy community
65 Votes (69%)

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2009, 08:03:38 AM »
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574
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Yes, I believe Sterling Allan is a sincere truthful honest person but misguided.
31 Votes (32%)

No, Sterling Allan is well aware that he continues to perpetuate a fraud bringing shame on the free energy community
66 Votes (68%)

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2009, 02:06:50 PM »
I had said I would not respond in the poll comments, but I must respond so I'll do it here

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06/10/2009 (14 hours ago)
This is the first I've seen this poll. The poll is not objective. Either response is a negative reflection. There should have been more options, such as: "Sterling is doing the best he can within the resources at his disposal and his intentions are honorable." That's the truth.
In my opinion the first answer is not a negative but gives leeway to Sterlings actions, Mylow was cited on those comments by Frank Grimer, now I can get my head around being misled the first couple of times, but even after the gut was discovered Sterling still continued his support citing the MiB made mylow do it, if that is not misguided then please tell me what is?

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #85 on: June 12, 2009, 03:15:21 AM »
RB:

I agree with your assessment. Also, I find it just not credible that Sterling has now "just learned" about your poll.  With all of his friends and contacts in this small, close-knit FE community, I just don't think that is true at all.  It may very well be, I don't really know but, as I said, I do not find that credible.

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #86 on: June 12, 2009, 11:42:27 AM »
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574
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Yes, I believe Sterling Allan is a sincere truthful honest person but misguided.
43 Votes (36%)
No, Sterling Allan is well aware that he continues to perpetuate a fraud bringing shame on the free energy community
78 Votes (64%)

Note, I have just deleted what I deem as racist comments from the poll, have your say but lets keep racial prejudice out of it, I check the poll daily so don't waste your time posting anymore racist remarks, they will be removed!

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2009, 04:34:11 PM »
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574
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Yes, I believe Sterling Allan is a sincere truthful honest person but misguided.
45 Votes (36%)
No, Sterling Allan is well aware that he continues to perpetuate a fraud bringing shame on the free energy community
79 Votes (64%)

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2009, 10:14:54 AM »
Having read Sterling's site for a couple of years now, a few things are obvious.

Sterling has a public website (http://www.greaterthings.com/) about his Mormon religious beliefs, Bible codes, visions, the NWO, various conspiracies, etc etc.

I'm fine with people following any religion they like, but Sterling's site does show an extreme willingness to take things on faith, which leads to a magical worldview based on authority and intuition that is at odds with the scientific method based on critical thinking. As a result, it makes him an incredibly poor spokesperson for free energy, because he doesn't have a skeptical bone in his body.

It's the same reason that Dennis Lee often targets religious groups for his scams. People who are heavily invested in a religion may have already taught their brains to manage the cognitive dissonance created by divergent beliefs, so wild OU claims unsupported by evidence are sometimes more easily accepted in those groups than in the general population.

http://www.skepdic.com/cognitivedissonance.html

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Re: Is Sterling Allan of Peswiki fame truthful honest person?
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2009, 03:52:51 PM »
Having read Sterling's site for a couple of years now, a few things are obvious.

Sterling has a public website (http://www.greaterthings.com/) about his Mormon religious beliefs, Bible codes, visions, the NWO, various conspiracies, etc etc.

I'm fine with people following any religion they like, but Sterling's site does show an extreme willingness to take things on faith, which leads to a magical worldview based on authority and intuition that is at odds with the scientific method based on critical thinking. As a result, it makes him an incredibly poor spokesperson for free energy, because he doesn't have a skeptical bone in his body.

It's the same reason that Dennis Lee often targets religious groups for his scams. People who are heavily invested in a religion may have already taught their brains to manage the cognitive dissonance created by divergent beliefs, so wild OU claims unsupported by evidence are sometimes more easily accepted in those groups than in the general population.

http://www.skepdic.com/cognitivedissonance.html

Wow, he is a Mormon?  I think all religions are crazy, but the Mormons are particularly so.  How can any thinking person believe all that Joseph Smith crap?  The man was such an obvious scammer.  That whole "I found gloden tablets but cannot let anyone see them" schtick!  That tells me everything I need to know about Sterling D. Allen.

 

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