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Offline lostcauses10x

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2009, 06:55:08 PM »
Do you not understand sarcasm when you see it?

 Not sarcasm, cynicism is what it was.

 Folks look for a reason people do such. why would Mylow do such??

What drives a magician?
Such is nothing more than the aspect of being able to make folks believe one way when some thing else is realy going on.
 A power thing among people.  For some a way of survival.
 If you look around the world of animals, and people this is not an unusual thing.
 The guy or gal in a bar dressed and acting in the other , any one in show business etc. It is all the same thing. Those that are good at such find pleasure in the deception and camouflage of the acts, and what others think is going on.
 

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2009, 07:42:41 PM »
Am I the only one wondering how "Mylow" thought this thing was going to end?

Offline Bobbotov

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2009, 07:44:25 PM »
Am I the only one wondering how "Mylow" thought this thing was going to end?

I doubt he thought this through completely for if he had he may have refrained from doing it in the first place.

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2009, 07:44:25 PM »
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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2009, 08:03:01 PM »
Well lets see what good came from it.

Magnet and metal sales where up. That helps the economy

It got a few more people doing something that where sitting on the sidelines.

It also makes people work harder to try harder on their own projects to try to get theirs running.

And to top it all off Mylow got all the attention he could stand.

What more could we ask for? LOL




Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2009, 08:05:49 PM »
Am I the only one wondering how "Mylow" thought this thing was going to end?

Hey, Mary, how's the IFPU? Have the Dublin lads saved the world from the tyranny of oil yet?

I think that the most plausible scenario that I have yet heard is that Mylow wanted to be Shiloh, and thot that he might get his hands on the HJ legacy if he fulfilled the HJ prophecy.
Another psychological symptom, if it is correct, and if you ask me.

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2009, 08:05:49 PM »
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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2009, 08:11:27 PM »
Hi All,
I was 3 days away and boy what did I miss.

After catching up with all the latest videos of the Mylow thread,
finally some people have seen the fishing lines in the Mylow Videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw-8YJvicrw

Well, it is said, how we are scammed from "scammers" like
this José guy.

So how should we handle this kind of scams in the future ?

Should we now post full name and address details of José ( Mylow)
to scare other scammsters away ?

I think José needs to be punished in some way to have been
doing this scam to us.

Also as I have played in the past with Howard Johnson setups
and saw, that just magnets alone never will work, if you don´t have any iron
cores in it.
See my 90 degres iron core pieces advantage video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5mYm5nO5Fw


Well, I could also not understand how Sterling D. Allan could fall
so badly for this scam and also made a lot of money out of it...

I wonder, if he will pay back the money to all the people who
bought the plans...

So what are your thoughts of it and how should it be handled
now ?

Should we publish José´s real name and address ?

Regards, Stefan.
Stefan,
He trifled with peoples emotions, time and money. Publish his real name. I would expect the same to be done to me if I did what he did.
Butch LaFonte

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2009, 08:14:19 PM »
@RunningBare

Moderator does not mean zombie. This is an OU forum so I am not hear to accept continuous whatever and even the moderators motivation is obvioulsy pro overunity or I would not be here. Otherwise no one should be here for that matter. This was not a debate on if this is real or not. It was an attempt to get the fullest disclosure possible from Mylow without stirring up unneeded crap. Also, how do you moderate a pack of hyenas that are feasting on a carcass, the pages fly by so fast, the posts are like a machine gun fire. I had no power to ban members myself from the thread (@stefan was also absent sometimes) otherwise this would have been done on day one if I applied the @Humbugger Litmus Test, when I started the moderator thing. So, if you were moderator, what would you have done?

@nyctuber

404 posts in less then 60 days. That in itself is not normal. Not on this forum. But in your case all while the Mylow thread was started, most all on the Mylow thread. WHY?????????????. I anyone has the stomach for it, go and check the posts.

@TK

Open your eyes man. We are being hood winked. I had cleaned the thread up to page 135 to give all members the benefit of the doubt regarding overzealousness. So start at page 135 then tell me if we had a fighting chance.

AND..........

Please leave Sterling alone will y'a about this prize thing. I think there is enough to digest right now without you rubbing it in. That money was for a working replication. In any case, I am the one that pushed and delineated for the string trial and like I said, it only means his last wheel could have been tricked. There is a great element of trust that has been lost here and all "proof" would have to be examined and not taken at face value. Unless of course people are bent on "believing" anything they want. ha ha. Works both ways.

Actually your long string trial was great but you did have a spool on the motor shaft which kept the string in place and aligned GIVING YOU AN UNTOLD ADVANTAGE. I knew this but did not make a fuss, but if you want to get picky about it, in Mylows case, we would need a close up shot of the motor on the couch to see if there is only a shaft or shaft with spindle, but I think I saw a straight shaft on Mylows couch motor. If there was no spindle on Mylows that would make the whole idea of a string that much more difficult, especially if that motor is held back by a pillow and if that shaft leaned towards the wheel a few degrees and especially when some say he let the string loose, how could that string still stay around the motor shaft????????????? So technically, we do not have a true replication of how he could have faked it. But guys here are very eager again to have us believe this. WHY??????????

What I was trying to point out in some 1000 pages back, by all my questions, which have not been answered and which some here are very eager for us to forget about, (Mind reflection: hmmm - I wonder why), is that Mylows magnetic message had to be white washed. Why the hell are some of these guys so happy. Happy for what. The fake gang won so let's have a Buddy Fake and his Fakerettes Parade. Wow.

I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THE REAL OUERS HERE WOULD HAVE DONE ALL THIS MYLOW THING, FROM DAY ONE WITHOUT YELLING ONCE IF IT WAS  DONE UNDER A MORE PROTECTED ENVIRONMENT. YOU GUYS DID THIS WITH MINCE MEAT AND DEMOLITION PRECISION. CONGRATULATIONS, BUT IT AIN'T OVER, CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO  HAVE TO GO BACK ONE STEP. Ahhhhhh, not again.

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
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Offline nyctuber

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2009, 08:18:27 PM »
Boy, looks wattsup is intent on making me the sacrificial lamb.

Why so may posts on the Mylow thread? The question answers itself.

I don't need or deserve this abuse. Please stop it.

Offline RunningBare

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2009, 08:28:01 PM »
Choose not to be a moderator, the rules and responsibility governing moderators are too restrictive, if you follow those rules and responsibility that is.

Yeah sure, we are human and can be biased, but there has to be a limit self imposed on that bias if you wish to moderate fairly, your latest post have shown you cannot control that bias, if they are flaming ban them, if they lie ban them, but if they are just speaking a truth, well you get the picture.

So far(and I have not seen what you have deleted) I've only seen folk who have stated a truth on this whole affair, you defend Sterling who attacks Overunity.com with legal threats, this in itself makes you unfit to moderate this site.

I will never be one to ask for your banning, but I will remain one that asks that you step down as moderator.

@RunningBare

Moderator does not mean zombie. This is an OU forum so I am not hear to accept continuous whatever and even the moderators motivation is obvioulsy pro overunity or I would not be here. Otherwise no one should be here for that matter. This was not a debate on if this is real or not. It was an attempt to get the fullest disclosure possible from Mylow without stirring up unneeded crap. Also, how do you moderate a pack of hyenas that are feasting on a carcass, the pages fly by so fast, the posts are like a machine gun fire. I had no power to ban members myself from the thread (@stefan was also absent sometimes) otherwise this would have been done on day one if I applied the @Humbugger Litmus Test, when I started the moderator thing. So, if you were moderator, what would you have done?

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
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Offline lostcauses10x

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2009, 08:35:37 PM »
"I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, THE REAL OUERS HERE WOULD HAVE DONE ALL THIS MYLOW THING, FROM DAY ONE WITHOUT YELLING ONCE IF IT WAS  DONE UNDER A MORE PROTECTED ENVIRONMENT. YOU GUYS DID THIS WITH MINCE MEAT AND DEMOLITION PRECISION. CONGRATULATIONS, BUT IT AIN'T OVER, CAUSE WE'RE GOING TO  HAVE TO GO BACK ONE STEP. Ahhhhhh, not again."


 OU is not a game of blind belief. If you think it is you should get the hell out of it.

 In this case I can see your ideas of trying to get the information out of the person making the claims. Created were credit is due. 

 YET: the whole story line from the start had holes in it.

 No mater how much I would have like to been wrong about this one, simply put with the given parameters of the claim there was no way this would work on its own.

 Folks tried to do replications in hopes it was true. folks including you wanted to believe they were just missing some thing to make it true.

 You are saying this is an OU form and such as the reality of claims should not be asked right from the start??? Do you really believe that???

 Just the whole idea of claims of OU should be taken with a grain of salt until such claims can be verified.


Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2009, 09:13:59 PM »
Grr.
Watts, to reply to your point about my fishing line reps: Mylow's motor has a shaft that's about the size of my thumb if not larger. No flanged drum or pulley is needed, just a little angle on the line running off the shaft so it doesn't work its way up and off. I am actually rather surprised at how well the line system tracks without taking special trouble. It's no problem for the system to work on that large  motor shaft.
Also as I have shown the line does not have to be very taut, and this helps with the clutch effect--and remember that the wheel is quite heavy and will most likely be slipping the clutch during acceleration and deceleration.
IF mylow was sharp enough to include an adjustable idler wheel -- or a chair leg -- he could have varied the tension to make the clutch effect less or greater. I know this because I have done it. In addition I have shown how the line could run around a shallow corner without problem, and I know how to make it turn a steeper angle without hanging up as well. So with a few paper towel roll tubes some duct tape and some chairs, (and some strong magnifying glasses !!) I could run the line around 90 degree corners and up the stairs if I wanted to.
So please believe this and don't make me demonstrate it to make you believe. You are skeptical, and that's good, but about some of the wrong things sometimes.
The point about putting the line down and then picking it up again without it falling off is a good one, and with old monofilament that is stiff it probably would, but this new tech monofil line is sooo limp, it reminds me of...well, never mind what it reminds me of. Let's just say it is pretty limp. So if one kept the loose end relatively under control, like having a projection to loop it around or a sticky piece of double-stick tape to stick it on, there would be no danger of it slipping off the shaft while Mylow was handling the other end.
Again, I know this because I've tried it. It's not hard.

OK, that's all. Watts, the public vote so far, as far as I can see was only one vote against you. We almost all seem to want you. So for goodness sakes lighten up, man!
 :P

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Offline nyctuber

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2009, 09:21:09 PM »
Question...

Say Mylow had an overunity device which operated at 200% efficiency

And he decided to use it's output to power itself.

It would then increase it's output (if tapped for output) exponentially, right?

Would this not be an extremely dangerous device?

Would this not make the idea of overunity dangerous?

Offline RunningBare

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2009, 09:48:15 PM »
Well, mechanically it would reach a limit, friction increases with speed, so you have bearing friction and air friction, if it increased exponentially indefinitely then mechanically something is going to give, my bet is on the glued magnets shooting across the room.

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If and I stress if someone does come up with a motor that can produce such results, then it's just a case of adding a braking/clutch system to stop it from increasing to dangerous speeds.
Question...

Say Mylow had an overunity device which operated at 200% efficiency

And he decided to use it's output to power itself.

It would then increase it's output (if tapped for output) exponentially, right?

Would this not be an extremely dangerous device?

Would this not make the idea of overunity dangerous?

Offline nyctuber

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2009, 09:57:38 PM »
Well, mechanically it would reach a limit, friction increases with speed, so you have bearing friction and air friction, if it increased exponentially indefinitely then mechanically something is going to give, my bet is on the glued magnets shooting across the room.

I caught a 'desertphile' video rant, something about E=MC2 causing a self-powered device to become exponentially heavier and eventually sink to the center of the Earth. I know machines normally have physical limits as you point out, but it's an odd thought.

Offline AquariuZ

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2009, 10:08:58 PM »
@Stefan

Sorry but your are wrong to say this is ALL a fake. We have the first wheel and we have people that have attempted to subvert the main thread.

On example:

@lostcauses10x

Posts:    133 (2.078 per day)
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Date Registered:     March 16, 2009, 04:49:01 PM
Last Active:            May 19, 2009, 11:59:41 PM
Local Time:            May 20, 2009, 01:55:12 AM

Wow in only two months days you posted 133 posts and you had registered here on March 16th, 2009. Busy guy hey. What was the rush in all your postings buddy.

Actually let's see one more:

@nyctuber

Posts:     404 (7.481 per day)
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Date Registered:     March 27, 2009, 06:54:08 AM
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Local Time:    May 20, 2009, 02:00:00 AM

Wow again and a real busy guy comes here on March 27th 2009 and manages to post 404 f(*&?n times, almost all on these Mylow threads. To say what????????? F*&k all. Just junk, diversions, and pure crap.

These are some of the members that were allowed to be present in this disclosure thread. Very dangerous and very unprofessional people that were allowed to spew venim any time other members started asking questions about the wheel.

So @stefan, you as operator of this now defiled web site have a choice to make. Give yourself the one level of criteria we used when you banned @Humbugger for not even 10% of what many members here got away with on this thread. Subversion, intended or not I don't care.

We had the intitial opportunity with Mylow when he was showing his first wheel but we never got the real chance. We all knew Mylow was ready this thread but members were left free to massacre him in public,

Conslusion of all this is overnutiy.com is not the place for disclosures if it does not have a totally protect area and if only members that are known non-subverts to participate. If it does not happen here then I will make a place for disclosures to be done in total security from the likes of total jackasses. Once the disclosure is made, then it can me made and given to the public to comment at large. Once we have it in hand SOLID.

The real OU members could have done all this Mylow business, fake or not, without yelling out once and we would have probably gotten much more real information. But there was never a chance.

Shit. All I wanted to do was talk magnets, wheel, feel and all these guys did was kill the guy and piss him off to the point of either orchestrating the last stringies or was compelled to do so, or we are just being tricked again.

Funny how an overunity.com forum member can take so much pleasure in all this mahem. I am ashamed to be on this forum.

I will ask all members including the silent majority who agrees with me to send @stefan a PM, only one each, stating only one sentence "I WANT MY OVERUNITY.COM FORUM BACK".

Or if you do not agree with me, send him a PM stating "PLEASE BAN WATTSUP". Then whatever the majority will say, I will be ready to leave this forum for good. lol

Wattsup, you are the MAN. I was afraid to post the obvious, but now YOU have.

You are real. Actually real in a world of masks.

If I were a woman I´d propose to you.

O, wait, maybe you ARE a woman? Drinks? Pick you up around eight?

 :D

Seriously, your post made my month.

AZ

 

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