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Offline PYRODIN123321

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2009, 04:04:41 PM »
fiery poop bag on doorstep?

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2009, 04:21:37 PM »
 >:(
I am really disgusted by this thing. I had thought this guy had nailed it. Why on Earth would someone do this? Is this the Uri Geller syndrome? did he have a running machine, could not replicate it and just continued because he had gotten used to the public attention he had gotten with this? That would be at least understandable. _If it was a fake from the beginning, the guy did a grave disservice to the free energy movement. The more I see and read of all this the more I turn into a disbeliever. I made 3 Bedini motors, and have posted their history on these pages. I really put a lot of effort into this and the effect was....well....not up to my expectations. I got the secondary battery charged, got sulphated batteries to run again but never saw any overunity in all my experiments.
When I saw the Mylow motor I thought for a moment here it is...straight in the face of scientific opinion. But then again...a fake.
Sterling Allan has played a dubious role here, too. He talks of open sourcing the plans of the device to the world, and then he SELLS them and the higher res videos....to help the guy "buy magnets". What he should have done before opening his big mouth is LOOK at the thing with his own eyes. He started to trumpet about it and so has all the egg on his face.

disgusted!

Offline RunningBare

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2009, 04:22:09 PM »
I agree, giving his name and address would reflect badly on this forum.

The problem is not really Mylow, the problem is the eagerness to believe.
We all have dreams, even us skeptics despite what some of you might think, for a year I was bamboozled by Steorn, I would not say I actually believed their claim but I was that side of the fence.

Youtube videos and words should not be accepted as proof in any way, this is why third party validation that some balk against so heavily is important, so that we don't keep getting dragged down the same old path time and time again.

Lets just accept this one as a learning experience.

On a side note, yes, Sterling should return the money and give TK the prize, it might be one way he can regain some credibility.

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2009, 04:22:09 PM »
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Offline HeairBear

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2009, 05:06:48 PM »
So basically Mylow admitted it already in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44ytKdyDA3A

but he did not yet tell, that he used a fishing line for
the connection between the motor and the aludisk shaft.
Do you not understand sarcasm when you see it?

Offline wattsup

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2009, 05:17:04 PM »
@Stefan

Sorry but your are wrong to say this is ALL a fake. We have the first wheel and we have people that have attempted to subvert the main thread.

On example:

@lostcauses10x

Posts:    133 (2.078 per day)
Age:    N/A
Date Registered:     March 16, 2009, 04:49:01 PM
Last Active:            May 19, 2009, 11:59:41 PM
Local Time:            May 20, 2009, 01:55:12 AM

Wow in only two months days you posted 133 posts and you had registered here on March 16th, 2009. Busy guy hey. What was the rush in all your postings buddy.

Actually let's see one more:

@nyctuber

Posts:     404 (7.481 per day)
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Date Registered:     March 27, 2009, 06:54:08 AM
Last Active:   
Local Time:    May 20, 2009, 02:00:00 AM

Wow again and a real busy guy comes here on March 27th 2009 and manages to post 404 f(*&?n times, almost all on these Mylow threads. To say what????????? F*&k all. Just junk, diversions, and pure crap.

These are some of the members that were allowed to be present in this disclosure thread. Very dangerous and very unprofessional people that were allowed to spew venim any time other members started asking questions about the wheel.

So @stefan, you as operator of this now defiled web site have a choice to make. Give yourself the one level of criteria we used when you banned @Humbugger for not even 10% of what many members here got away with on this thread. Subversion, intended or not I don't care.

We had the intitial opportunity with Mylow when he was showing his first wheel but we never got the real chance. We all knew Mylow was ready this thread but members were left free to massacre him in public,

Conslusion of all this is overnutiy.com is not the place for disclosures if it does not have a totally protect area and if only members that are known non-subverts to participate. If it does not happen here then I will make a place for disclosures to be done in total security from the likes of total jackasses. Once the disclosure is made, then it can me made and given to the public to comment at large. Once we have it in hand SOLID.

The real OU members could have done all this Mylow business, fake or not, without yelling out once and we would have probably gotten much more real information. But there was never a chance.

Shit. All I wanted to do was talk magnets, wheel, feel and all these guys did was kill the guy and piss him off to the point of either orchestrating the last stringies or was compelled to do so, or we are just being tricked again.

Funny how an overunity.com forum member can take so much pleasure in all this mahem. I am ashamed to be on this forum.

I will ask all members including the silent majority who agrees with me to send @stefan a PM, only one each, stating only one sentence "I WANT MY OVERUNITY.COM FORUM BACK".

Or if you do not agree with me, send him a PM stating "PLEASE BAN WATTSUP". Then whatever the majority will say, I will be ready to leave this forum for good. lol

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2009, 05:17:04 PM »
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Offline vonwolf

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2009, 05:23:54 PM »
Do you not understand sarcasm when you see it?


    Thanks HeairBear I was beginning to think it was just me.?  No wait I know I know its just mylos clever use of obfuscation to throw us off the track.

    @wattsup;
I will ask all members including the silent majority who agrees with me to send @stefan a PM, only one each, stating only one sentence "I WANT MY OVERUNITY.COM FORUM BACK".

Or if you do not agree with me, send him a PM stating "PLEASE BAN WATTSUP". Then whatever the majority will say, I will be ready to leave this forum for good. lol

     I agree with you %100 its ridiculous how many times some people keep hammering Mylow saying the same thing over and over again.  As I'v said many time it's getting old.

    I know I have no juce here so I don't think I'll PM Steffan, I hope this helps

   Pete

Offline RunningBare

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2009, 05:26:42 PM »
I'll state it in public, please do NOT ban wattsup, why?, because you are entitled to your opinion just as others are, but certainly I believe your moderator status should be removed because once again you have shown bias, it is not the job of a moderator to to influence bias but to remain impartial, the job of a moderator is to moderate, if that means banning someone then so be it, but with clear warning sent to the offending user and a copy to the site owner.
I will ask all members including the silent majority who agrees with me to send @stefan a PM, only one each, stating only one sentence "I WANT MY OVERUNITY.COM FORUM BACK".

Or if you do not agree with me, send him a PM stating "PLEASE BAN WATTSUP". Then whatever the majority will say, I will be ready to leave this forum for good. lol

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2009, 05:26:42 PM »
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Offline nyctuber

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2009, 05:27:55 PM »
Thanks for the unnecessary personal attack, wattsup.

As per your instructions to me about Mylow, you should put yourself on a short leash.

Btw I was right about Mylow at the time of my 'attacks.'

Offline mscoffman

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2009, 05:38:48 PM »

First;

I want to thank all of the people who put in time
computer analysis of Mylow's videos...This was a very
impressive effort! I hate to say this but you were right!

I want to point out that;

a) Mylow apparently impeached himself several times
in e-mail communication starting with communications
with Paul-R, whom I believe.

In that 'Court' program on TV as soon as any
witness starts to impreach themselves the judge
recognizes this immediately and begins to rule against
them. Why didn't you begin to discredit Mylow
when he did this.

b)Mylow had problems with basic engineering
terminology as in how to do certain things
at first. This should have been a clue that
the guy was motivated in a way that technologist
people would not understand...Including, questions
of his basic sanity. I do recommend that Mylow
get a CAT Computerized Axial Tomographic
Brain Scan by the way. They may be surprised at
what they find.

c) I was extremely disappointed that he or (they)
implicated politicoes in any sort of scheme as
politicians already have an *Extremely* bad record
on energy understanding, planning and legislation.

Next

I do think that Sterling Allan does not get away unscathed.
I was impressed (disappointed) by the rather large number
of topic headings generated for Mylow's discovery even
though nothing had been proved.

Sterling has to take responsibility for creating
a circus atmosphere that "THAT HAS BEEN THE
HISTORY OF THIS FIELD."

Sterlign; "This stuff is about what nature does"
"THIS IS NOT ABOUT BELIEF - IT IS NOT RELIGION"
"Nature doesn't give a damn about what people think
or what they know! Take that T.B."

:S:MarkSCoffman








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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2009, 05:38:48 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2009, 05:40:23 PM »
Ban Wattsup? Of course not. He owes me a beer! If you ban him I'll never collect.

But I believe he is unnecessarily critical of those 2 posters he mentioned specifically, which is unfair IMHO, as these 2 individuals, while perhaps relatively new to this forum, bring valuable information and set an excellent example.
LC10x is an old hand at magnetism and magnet motors. Read his stuff carefully and think about it well and deeply before you write it off. I do.
Nyctuber evaluates evidence and makes up his mind based on what he sees. When he sees something different, he has no qualms about abandoning his previous position and changing his stance. Some might criticise him for this but I see it as a good example of how we need to be able to let our pet theories go if the evidence, even the LEAST evidence, contradicts it...as long as the data is good.

(But Watts, man--in the future if I say I "can" do something (as opposed to "I might be able to do it"), would you please just take my word for it?   8)  )

Offline lostcauses10x

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2009, 05:54:09 PM »
ROTFLMAO.
Hmm are you a moderator?? If you have a problem with my posts remove them, I don,t care about such. Oh and here is post you can add to my count ROTFLMAO.
Post count means nothing to me.  (other part of post removed by me before posting, not worth the time.) It seems your desire to believe is what is driving you. It sure as hell is not facts.
 Think before believing a video on the internet man.
@Stefan

Sorry but your are wrong to say this is ALL a fake. We have the first wheel and we have people that have attempted to subvert the main thread.

On example:

@lostcauses10x

Posts:    133 (2.078 per day)
Age:    N/A
Date Registered:     March 16, 2009, 04:49:01 PM
Last Active:            May 19, 2009, 11:59:41 PM
Local Time:            May 20, 2009, 01:55:12 AM

Wow in only two months days you posted 133 posts and you had registered here on March 16th, 2009. Busy guy hey. What was the rush in all your postings buddy.

Actually let's see one more:

@nyctuber

Posts:     404 (7.481 per day)
Age:    N/A

Date Registered:     March 27, 2009, 06:54:08 AM
Last Active:   
Local Time:    May 20, 2009, 02:00:00 AM

Wow again and a real busy guy comes here on March 27th 2009 and manages to post 404 f(*&?n times, almost all on these Mylow threads. To say what????????? F*&k all. Just junk, diversions, and pure crap.

These are some of the members that were allowed to be present in this disclosure thread. Very dangerous and very unprofessional people that were allowed to spew venim any time other members started asking questions about the wheel.

So @stefan, you as operator of this now defiled web site have a choice to make. Give yourself the one level of criteria we used when you banned @Humbugger for not even 10% of what many members here got away with on this thread. Subversion, intended or not I don't care.

We had the intitial opportunity with Mylow when he was showing his first wheel but we never got the real chance. We all knew Mylow was ready this thread but members were left free to massacre him in public,

Conslusion of all this is overnutiy.com is not the place for disclosures if it does not have a totally protect area and if only members that are known non-subverts to participate. If it does not happen here then I will make a place for disclosures to be done in total security from the likes of total jackasses. Once the disclosure is made, then it can me made and given to the public to comment at large. Once we have it in hand SOLID.

The real OU members could have done all this Mylow business, fake or not, without yelling out once and we would have probably gotten much more real information. But there was never a chance.

Shit. All I wanted to do was talk magnets, wheel, feel and all these guys did was kill the guy and piss him off to the point of either orchestrating the last stringies or was compelled to do so, or we are just being tricked again.

Funny how an overunity.com forum member can take so much pleasure in all this mahem. I am ashamed to be on this forum.

I will ask all members including the silent majority who agrees with me to send @stefan a PM, only one each, stating only one sentence "I WANT MY OVERUNITY.COM FORUM BACK".

Or if you do not agree with me, send him a PM stating "PLEASE BAN WATTSUP". Then whatever the majority will say, I will be ready to leave this forum for good. lol

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2009, 05:54:09 PM »
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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2009, 06:05:54 PM »
There are those whose brain's are wired so that they are incapable of feeling genuine empathy and compassion. They make great politicians, CEO's of large corporations, and hit men. They'll destroy anyone or anything to get what they want. Yet, there are those with such a condition that are intelligent enough, wise enough to realize that the best way for a society to thrive is to show kindness and honesty to others like they would like it shown to them. Then, there are the "Mylows", the hit men, who have no clue to the far reaching ramifications of their hurtful and selfish actions.

Mylow is likely not done with his charade yet. He and his likewise sociopathic twin are having too much fun shitting on others natural desire to trust and see the best in our fellow man -- senses which they do not have, and will play the "victim" card for all it's worth: They and their families were threatened by the men in black and forced at "gun point" to do what they did to hide the real validity of their machine....blah...blah...blah

Offline lostcauses10x

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2009, 06:32:12 PM »
Ban Wattsup,
No. folks that want to believe are the ones that finance such ideas of the fringe in that such might make applicable applications.

 To be honest it was these folks that got me into a great deal of this stuff to begin with.

 LOL I have save two a great deal of money by being able to tell them what is really going on over what the person was saying was going on.  I became useful to some of the folks that want to believe.

 Yet if it were not for the desire to believe in strange ideas and things we would still be stuck some were in the dark ages of religion over science.

 Because some one shows or claims things are going on, does not mean they understand what they are observing.

It is easy to believe. It seems more difficult to look and observe to find out the why or how of such claims. 

 Regrettably this whole FE system is a ripe group to pluck for scammers and showmen: magicians if you so please.

 The world need believers and folks that want to believe.
Those folks need the folks, that will look and see then tell.
 The balance of the two work well.

Offline ellubpt

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2009, 06:46:53 PM »
I was debating to post here or not, but, why not.

First, I was singled out and mentioned by Mylow in one of his videos .
I don't think that was justified. I never made "personal attack" on him.
I did say the claims were ridiculous and BS. I never once mentioned his physical appearance, mental capabilities, etc. Nothing personal,no obscenities, I just don't like getting BS'd. So I said something about.
Something smelled bad here from the get go. Sterling exhibited too much enthusiasm. And the background stories and excuses for no demo were totally off the wall.

On the other hand, my skepticism led to me getting almost banned.
Simply because I felt that ridiculous statements and absurd claims deserved just as ridiculous treatment. Within 24 hours of the first vid, I had a 15.5 in 6061 T6 aluminum disk decked out with rotor magnets and had tried multiple stator setups.  The moderator , however kept inferring that my attitude interfered with replicators. Moderator was assuming.I actually tried the underneath stator thing before Clanzer posted his video. I knew it didn't work. Nothing worked.

There was obvious bias in the moderation efforts. I will chalk that up to youth.

I am still not totally sure what the motivation was here, Bedini getting involved, missing HJ property that some may be competeing to get control of, revenge against OU, for some yet unknown reason, some quick cash ??? Could be a combo of any of the above or something new completely from left field.
But as I said in one of my posts, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, odds are It's a duck.

Offline ellubpt

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Re: Mylow Motor was a fake
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2009, 06:54:52 PM »
Oh, and I don't have a high post count.

Perhaps Stephan can look into his logs though, maybe check where I 've been on this forum, what I've read here. Many many hours I consider to be a part of research. The forum is valuable, I am glad I found it. I accept the good with the bad.

I bet I've covered over several thousands messages and every post on topics that interest me like magnets, SEC, Jouls Thief, gravity etc.
I absorb a lot from here and read every single post on previous scammers like Perendev, Torbay, Archer.

Post count means nothing except that a low post count indicates a person not posting much, for whatever reason, maybe even because they think might not care what they have to say because they have a low post count.

 

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