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Offline Elvis Oswald

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HOPE Testing
« on: February 16, 2006, 05:16:45 AM »
First of all - I must qualify this post by saying that I am not a skeptic... or a debunker... :) 

However... I must shed some light on the HOPE transformer that may be the death of that dream.  I would consider this a positive - because an understanding of the results is what we are seeking?  right?  ;)

Before anyone jumps to a conclusion that HOPE transforms .5v into 30v - or whatever it seems to be doing - I would suggest the following hypothesis be tested.

The power input into the HOPE comes via an audio signal.  This is not 'sound' - this is an alternating current.  The higher the cycle... the more energy it is able to output.  But isn't it true that a higher frequency is sending more POWER down the wire?
IF you pulse 1v at a cycle of X per second - then you are using (X)v to do it.  If you double the frequency, then you use (2X)v to do it.

It's been implied that this is 'using sound' to generate power.  Some have made note that this is just a current... but the discussion was dropped on the assumption that the input was '.5v at max.'
But actually the input is not .5 volts.  The power input would be much larger.

The way to test this would be to put a meter on the end of the wire coming out of the sound card.  I bet the output at frequency X would be just what you would expect to light a tube up with any normal transformer.
This would also explain why you can't power a real load.  The sound card will only output a certain amount of power. 

Some of you may have already figured this out.  I just thought I'd post it here for all to see, and for others to take me to test on it.

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HOPE Testing
« on: February 16, 2006, 05:16:45 AM »

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2006, 08:54:58 AM »
... once again the same little beast that kills all 'overunity' devices - wrong power calculation of AC currents ;)
 For the voltages, the only way is to use a scope to find out the real values. Same goes for the current. You then as well have to figure out the phaseshift between I and U. In the end it comes down below one. One of the major flaws wich seem to be quite popular with these devices is to use neon tubes as sort of power indicator. But the brightness of these tubes is a function of an ion discarge, which in turn is a function of the ionisation of the gas inside the tube. Ionisation in turn is dependent on the collision speed of the electrons/atom, i.e. the potential and the potential deviaton by time are important. This all makes it voltage and frequency dependent.

The only way to prove OU is to use a ohmic resistance, i.e. a incandalescent lamp or heating element, put it into a calorimeter and meassure the produced heat energy.

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2006, 09:27:20 AM »
Yep.  Tubes can be lit by standing too close to a broadcast antenna... maybe by running a comb through your hair... hahaha

You are probably right about using a regular bulb, or heating element.  I don't doubt so called "cold electricity" - only because Tesla talked about it - but show me that it can run a generator to produce "hot electricity" and we'll talk.

I still believe the secret is in the aether.  And that's not overunity any more than daming a river.  :)

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Re: HOPE Testing
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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2006, 01:37:23 PM »
PS: for the the MEG type devices in all its flavors:

It would be interesting to see how the output changes, when the magnet is a) removed and b) replaced by a simple magnetic short. I wonder if the output might be still the same  ???

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2006, 09:10:43 PM »
Jim,

If you will read my original post... you will see that I did not attack you personally.... AND I did not say that your technology didn't work.
You have over-reacted.  Not that I can blame you... I've seen you attacked persoanlly in another thread... and I'm sure that conditioned your response to me.

Your invention is the one device on this forum that I have thought to have potential.  That's the reason I posted my suggestion for testing it to be sure that it was the real deal.  As a matter of fact... It was the result of my preparations to build my own replica that I stumbled upon my questions about the input, and the actual wattage.  :)
You should understand that a person cannot build every device that comes along on this forum.  It seemed appropriate to suggest a simple experiment to you before building my own.

As for you personally... I have nothing but respect for you.  You have tinkered, and you have shared.  You don't claim to have all the answers.  You openly place your design and your data on this forum - and present it "as is."
I certainly appreciate your efforts and I don't doubt your intentions.  I'd appreciate the same respect from you, sir.  :)

What is the total output from the sound card at the different frequencies of tome you are using?  I understand that the voltage is .5v - but how much current?  What's the total watts output at a given frequency?

What is the output then, using the same frequencies, after the current is run through the HOPE??





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Re: HOPE Testing
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Offline BushWacker

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2006, 09:50:29 AM »
I appoligize for blowing up on you. I simply don't have time to read all the posts and it is no one's fault but my own that I read things out of order. Your right though about me being conditioned to expect being attacked. This is not the only place that I've been attacked by those who's job it is to debunk any possible technologies which may threaten the future security of oil profits and nuclear energy subsidies.
Most of the people who have tried to sidetrack the public from looking into possible solutions to our energy problems have no idea about what they are saying or for that matter what they are actually doing and I must admit that it angers me to a great extent. Not because my ego may get damaged or my character injured, but because it causes a great many people to turn away from the truth and believe the lies that we have all been subjected to for many decades.
I can't seem to stress the fact enough that I am not trying to sell anyone HOPE Generators. I am however trying to use what I have been able to learn from personal experience and experimentation so that other more adept people than I can take that knowledge to the next level where we might all benefit greatly from it. I have to give Freedomfuel a great deal more credit than I have at this point also, and it appears that he has been able to find actual publications on information which backs up my own findings. This is what we need to be doing as well as actual experimentation when possible so that we have solid ground to walk on s-t-s.
I do NOT believe that anyone from this point on should purchase a Metglass core just to provide proof that I am not a fraud. Thats the wrong reason to be wanting others to replicate my experiments and device's. However if we can now take what Freedomfuel has pointed out and what I have learned from my discovery with the HOPE Gen., to new levels we can make a great deal more progress in a forward direction rather than going in circles.
The great value that I see in my experiments with the HOPE Gen., are not in the device itself as a cureall for our energy ill's. The great value is that we have made the discovery that certain materials can and do definately respond to audio stimulus in a similar mannor to piezo crystals, and when used in combination with high grade ferrous materials a much greater potential can and is often invoked with the proper configurations.
Knowing what we now know it gives us new hope that much better materials may be able to be developed keeping this knowledge in mind. It is my own personal opinion that it is now logical to presume that by employing highly reactive piezo materials and/or powders such as (Lead Zirconate Titanate), (Barium Titanate) etc.., in combination with high grade ferromagnetic and/or ferrimagnetic materials we should be able to see a lot more potential energy being produced. Some people seem to get what I'm saying and others haven't got a clue. It doesn't seem to matter whether they are engineer's or lay-persons but rather the mindset they have settled into.
Again I appoligize for misunderstanding you and reading you wrong. I do hope that people will begin to work together in urgency and honesty and give others some credit for caring about people, the planet, and future generations.

Best Regards,

Jim

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2006, 10:15:16 AM »
Jim, we are on the same wavelength.  All of this is more than a quest for free energy - it's about freedom for mankind.  As a student of Alex Jones, I know very well what is afoot... and the role that supressed technology plays in it.   :P

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Offline BushWacker

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2006, 01:20:18 PM »
It's good to know that Elvis is in the house, lol. Alex Jones is pretty intense and is fortunate just to still be alive with all he has tried to make known to the public. A lot of people can't stand him and think he's completely nuts because they can't imagine the world that Alex describes. I might also be one of those skeptics had I not worked for the people that Alex is trying to expose. I was the lone person in charge of accessing, processing, editing, and final high quality publications of black projects for the DoD during the "Star Wars" era/Reagan Administration. When I tried to answer president Reagan's plea to the American public to please inform the DoE of any new alternative energy technologies anyone might know of or have in mind I was met with armed military police the following morning immediately upon arriving at my desk for work. You may not believe me and I am used to it but they told me to drop what I was pursuing and that if I ever spoke one word about anything that had occured during the meeting with the energy commissioner the previous day that they would make certain that nobody would ever find even my bones. They added that they might also take out my entire family just for good measure if I did not take them seriously. From that day forward a helecopter arrived directly over my house at exactly 12:00 pm sharp whereby the door would open and the occupants would take turns snapping pictures using various high tech cameras which were mounted on moving tracks. Every family members phone was tapped, and all of my closest friends were payed visits by MIB who told them to stay away from me. That was only the beginning of the last 27+ years in which they have proceeded to destroy my entire life and caused my family to eventually shatter into pieces. I was disabled and nearly permanently paralyzed in 1995 and was unable to get any doctor to right a letter of written consent so that I could continue working in any capacity. I have now been out of work for more than 11 years, and even though every doctor including the DoSS doctors for hire have verified my severe disabilities the fed has continued to refuse me any SSDI or SSI. I now live in El Paso, TX under my elderly parents roof and have so far met at least 2 dozen non English mexican's who are collecting disability and there is absolutely no disability there with any of them. My wife left me after I had payed off the mortgage, bought her a new car, and paid every last bill we had incured throughout our 24 years of marriage. She told me that she simply couldn't endure the terror she felt all the time that we would be murdered one night in our home by the people who had continued to harass us since 1979. It was only a month or so before she filed for divorce when our home was broken into again and she spotted another man snapping photo's of using a telephoto lens from several blocks away. I cornered the guy and scared him into telling me the truth about who he was working for. I told him that if he valued his own life at all that I had better never see him again. For years some type of beam technology had been being used on us as we would be trying to sleep in our bed. When they wish they can cause unimaginable pain as well as make you so sick you find yourself praying to God to let you die. My wife finally developed a tumor the size of a goose egg on her inner ear and came very close to dying. The whole story is really long and so much has happened that I don't even remember half of it anymore but you can possibly understand my passionate approach to these related issues. Alex Jones is right on the mark about most things from what I've heard him say. It's a cryin shame that more American citizen's haven't got a clue about the real America and just how corrupt this government is. I've had a birds eye view of dark side and have seen the heart of the beast in person. No one I know of has seen or talked about some of the things I have seen with my own eye's. If I could reverse my decisions throughout time I would leave myself a note not to accept the position I was offered by the contractor I worked for because that decision was the worst decision I ever made. I would rather have remained completely ignorant like the vast majority of others in this country. I imagine that ignorance truely must be bliss.

Keep up the good fight,

Jim

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2006, 01:39:18 PM »
I was going to say earlier that all this technology is related.  ELF, pulse weapons, free energy, etc.
Tesla reported heightened perceptions at cetain frequencies... and then there's the recent story of a man struck by lightning who is regrowing hair and new teeth.... so apparently the secret to all this is the secret to life itself.
And isn't obvious - since it is this same energy that gives us the life-cycle of stars... and the building blocks of life...
I've been reading Meyl.  This guy will blow your mind - literally.
But it all makes sense.

So the race is to get this technology out in the open before the Bohemian Grove Satanists get a grip on it and set up something similiar to ancient Greece... where they are the gods and we are the rock throwing mob of peasants.  But this time Mount Olympus will be underground beneath the Denver Airport.   :o

Now you know why I use the name Elvis Oswald.  haha  ;)

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2006, 12:46:37 AM »
Hey Elvis,

    Your guess is as good as mine at this point and I am putting this research on temporary hold for the time being while I devote more quality time to my ISBP os Project members. Thats another one I'm expected to prove, lol. These guys are some great guys though and have been incredibly patient with me for more than 1.6 years while I have been spreading myself thin on all the various projects and technologies. They deserve to have more of my attention and devotion to the project so we can all move on from there. I had a very dramatic falling out with that engineer you may remember me mentioning. I finally told my ISBP forum members the real reason for having to wait so long to get a few simple readings on the HOPE unit. Basically the guy hasn't lifted a finger to do anything and has done nothing but make excuses for needing more money. I've posted a bit more about this on the HOPE Video topic. I personally think that you are correct in your views on much of what you've stated but I have to be extremely cautious about what I say or agree on because it will come back and bite me in the rear if I make any mistakes on the web. I could tell everyone a lot more than I do but then we would just get to far off track and be expected to start a bunch of new topics, lol. You wouldn't believe the amount of e-mail I get in one hour anymore and I'm running short on time to actually get much of anything done if I answer every letter. The enraged engineer gave us some numbers which I've posted under the HOPE Video topic. I don't know if he is being truthful or simply vindictive because he just did a complete 360 on me. You can think whatever you like and take it for whatever you believe it to be worth. I however am satisfied with my progress thus far and now know that I can provide at least myself and my family with free lighting even if we aren't using real electricity to get that light, lol.


Best Regards,

Jim

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2006, 12:08:24 AM »
You don't really have to show figures to get the point accross.  I saw somewhere in the main thread it mentioned 3000W.  If thats true hook up an entire RV to it AC and all.  You can't dispute someone running that many devices off of a few AA cells plugged into a CD player as being a mistake or miscalculation :)

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2006, 09:53:25 AM »
Not very clear my test.

but at 685Hz Square Wave i get 65v AC on my meter, input was only my pc sound card and Test Tone Generator software.

the test was not clear cause i burn 2 blue Leds (not cheap ones, but that ones that at less than one meter can start to blind you)

the 3rd Led i test it before, and chek that power at sound card out-put just give me small light, next i change the frequency in order to have only 3 or 4v in the out-put

of the transformer, with this i have a very bright led, maybe not at full power but 4x more than direct to sound card, also i don?t want to burn a 3rd led.

just by looking at this test the 2 Law didn?t come close to make is point, at least with the led it was possible to see that input < than out-put > light.



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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2006, 09:12:48 PM »
So the race is to get this technology out in the open before the Bohemian Grove Satanists get a grip on it and set up something similiar to ancient Greece... where they are the gods and we are the rock throwing mob of peasants.  But this time Mount Olympus will be underground beneath the Denver Airport.   :o

Now you know why I use the name Elvis Oswald.  haha  ;)

HOLY.... WTF?

I just had a layover in denver a while back, should I be checking for implants?

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2006, 12:47:08 AM »
Hi Bushwacker,

I'm new here but have been lurking and learning. I was thinking and was curious, with all of your testing have you ever tried a modulated sound source on the HOPE? If not I would like to suggest that you try it, a software based synthisizer on your PC would do the trick and you could try some combinations and see what happens to the output ....

For a test you might want to try to find a good output freq with a single tone and then gate or modulate that with another, maybe try a frequency of 5.6hz to 13hz and see what you get on the output.

Another idea is to use chords (musical notes)  It is said that you can have multiple waves exist in the wire at the same time (Steven Marx generator post) this may increase the output.  what do you think?

Just some thoughts, let me know if you try it and what you get out if you do.

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Re: HOPE Testing
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2006, 10:01:53 PM »
Hi StarCruiser,

    Sorry for the loooong wait for a reply. I have my notification of posts turned off and haven't been back here since May, lol. I have been very busy building various HOPE designs over the past few months to see how long I can continue to out-do myself with what I've got to work with. Until the last couple of weeks I had absolutely no equipment to work with but now have a second-hand 15MHz oscilloscope, AC/DC variable power supply, and a very cheap pulse generator. YEAAA!!!
Getting to your question about trying modulated sounds/music etc.., I have in fact tried a great many things including what you have suggested. I find that any pulsed wave input causes an electrical response in the core and coils of a HOPE Generator. Some models work much better with sound/audio input while others work best with direct AC input. My latest model was an attempt to combine the best of both so that I could use virtually any type of modulated waveform as input and have it transformed into high potential AC output. It was fairly successful. Again...... YEAAA!!
In fact, I am seeing higher AC potentials at the output with virtually any type of modulated input waveform. However, this one seems to work REALLY good on straight AC input. I have calculated the input to output ratio's in voltage to be between 100 to 150 times the voltage going in so far but have been fearful of putting more than 24vAC/1000mA into the unit because of the extremely high voltage being produced. At 24vAC/1000mA input this one is producing well over 2,500vAC and creating some impressive arc's along the internal wiring. I had to buy a 1000v MM to get past the 600 to 700 wall that I ran into with a typical MM and now I need to try and find a 10,000v meter. Therefore I am sticking with a small 9v 750mA AC/DC power supply until I can figure out the right circuit/s to keep the high voltage feedback from frying out any input supply.
The new unit boasts 42 active leads and is quite complicated! So much so that I would dread the thought of trying to draw this one out for anyone. I really wish that someone in our forum were nearer by so they could take a look at some of this stuff in person but so far it looks like I'm about the only one out here in the high desert who is interested in this kind of thing. You should check out the last post I wrote in the thread at the top of the HOPE conversations list and take a closeup look at this latest model. I've since added a top cover plate to protect all those leads but you will get an idea of how complex the wiring is on this sucker.
I don't know how I could out-do this unit with the materials I've been restricted to using due to personal finances or rather lack of I guess I should say. I really think its time to take the discovery to the next level and apply what has been learned from it all. I am certain that the simple addition of various grades of LZT (Lead Zirconate Titante) powders to even the current core material would break the OU Barrier by a fair margin but I am now to broke to continue any further. HOPEfully someone else will see the logic in this approach and be exited enough to take things further on towards the full potential of this technology.
BTW guys, if anyone out there would like to work on this and/or other alternative energy technologies together and can provide room and board, thats all I require. Never thought I'd ever be in this position years ago but as soon as the folks sign out from this plain of existance I'll most likely become just one more homeless person out there so the pride has had to go for the sake of pure survival. Well anyway,........... at least I'll have plenty of light to see my way in a cave if need be and no electric bill to show for it. Maybe I could use it to grow myself some happy herb, lol. ;)


Best Regards,

Jim

 

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