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“Asked whether he envisaged fees at his British papers such as the Times, the Sunday Times, the Sun and the News of the World, (Murdoch) replied: “We’re absolutely looking at that,†reports the Guardian. “Taking questions on a conference call with reporters and analysts, he said that moves could begin “within the next 12 months‚†adding: “The current days of the internet will soon be over.â€
http://www.prisonplanet.com/rupert-murdoch-internet-will-soon-be-over.html
I know one thing, Murdoch talks to more rich psychopaths that are capable of doing that than I do.
Regards...
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Hehe... Rupert Murdoch admits he manipulate the news for his own (and Bush) agenda.http://truthnews.tv/?id=113&title=Murdoch%20Admits%20Manipulating%20the%20News%20for%20Agenda (http://truthnews.tv/?id=113&title=Murdoch%20Admits%20Manipulating%20the%20News%20for%20Agenda)
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Rupert Murdoch is Jewish of course.
Hans von Lieven
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Murdoch and his NWO pals can't manipulate the net though...that is their 'Achilles heel'.
On the one hand the net is undermining their authority...and on the other, thats where they all go for their child qorn...and thats why they are so divided on whether to destroy the net.
One thing we have working in our favor...the little head always wins.
Regards...
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These guys were getting their kiddieporn and snuff movies long before the net was invented. They don't need or use the net for this. Why risk exposure by indulging in that sort of thing on the net?They are far too clever for that. Their little heads are very well catered for.
Hans von Lieven
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Well Hans...there comes a time when a well heeled inbred social elitist finds himself alone with their laptop some nights while on the road doing maintenance polishing on their false public image.
Hell, they probably enjoy it while dining in their restaurants...among other places.
Don't forget these perverts are heavily "medicated" at all times.
I am so screwed if they take over Canada...entirely that is.
Regards...
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Hi Guys,
I don't know if you've seen this documentary about "Rupert Murdoch's" FOX news network, if not... its worth seeing!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428&q=outfoxed&total=291&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6737097743434902428&q=outfoxed&total=291&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0)
TV news and journalism in his domain was oppressed along time ago, and now he want to conquer another media platform with his sick and twisted ideas.
Bill O'Reilly is his main PUPPET on FOX, and just seeing him makes me wanna puke. David Letterman made me smile ear to ear when he told him off. ;D ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOGMKQ1aHo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWOGMKQ1aHo)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LO-BuhxW0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LO-BuhxW0&feature=related)
Cheers
rbe
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Rupert Murdoch is Jewish of course.
Hans von Lieven
Charming.
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Zero:
This is the very reason I do not even own a TV any more.
If I want news, I go to GNN or the likes.
As for the demise of the internet ala murdick, Well there is
back to the BBS days for sure. I would be glad to run another
board again. Had a riot of a time and filled a very necessary
function. We still have the power to do it.
thay
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" As for the demise of the internet ala murdick, Well there is
back to the BBS days for sure. I would be glad to run another
board again. Had a riot of a time and filled a very necessary
function. We still have the power to do it.
thay "
What is 'BBS' Thalen...sounds like an underground internet ?
Regards...
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I am surprised that you have never heard of them. Well back in the days of the ARPA net, all was mostly done via text. It was really meant for college/k12, gov, and business to share files and info. Well it grew into a monster.
Before this happened, certain people put up systems for dial in via phone to share files, open email and 'other' things. ;D Some had private email but most was like this forum, all could read it and reply. You should look for the documentary called Baud, the BBS days. It will take you from the beginning to the end of the era. I loved it so much I was sad to see it go. We had mail call ins from central america at times. Do you remember the apple 2? A lot of boards were run on them in the beginning. We had a state of the art 386 with dual 80 megabyte SCSI hard drives and two dedicated phone lines running at an incredible 14400 baud rate!
I infact still have the software for it yet on floppys. Damn I'm dating myself for sure.....
thay
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That was before I entered the net scene Thalen.
I went on line in '97 with windows 95 I believe.
That sounds like a great system though...its good we have back up.
I doubt many know of that system today...I'm going to look it up, just in case we need it.
Regards...
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That was early 80's when I was active most. When I started out, all
I had was a programable color terminal and a modem. First computer was
a Shak1.
There will always be a way. And not without a damn good fight too.
thay
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The untold story ........ I've got six in my home ....... :o
Fuzzy ;D
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All U.S. residents, please go here and sign the latest Online Petition in support for a bill currently in Congress to stop the telecomm corporations from limiting our access and jacking up our rates for Internet access by implementing "billing schemes" like they already have for cable or satellite television.
These corps DO NOT OWN the internet, they only use it to make Billions in easy profits. Yet they want MORE control over us.... And what they really want is to stop us from using sites like this one.
http://www.freepress.net/
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Hi all
the billing part really bothers me but the rest doesn't except for free flow of ideas then thought and there already got people so depressed and at each other for all the wrong reasons they can track almost everything that goes on on a computer all the security firewalls don't even slow them down i do what i believe to be right because it is just but we are becoming to guarded as thaelin said or pointed out it was better in the begining and allot more open for those who wanted to learn as for more money they will get it eventually and that will drive more people to greater crimes but they never look at it that way so let them do it they will hasten there own exit common people will find a different way to go then what will they do when they have finnished seperating the wheat and chaff i know that if the tech in the article is true it is the government that has it and they will use it to get what they want can you go into the NSA and ask to see there records NO if you could you would want heads to role
the mafia once said in court what did we do that you didn't do first
common people need common value hold true to these things the next generation doesn't want to work for them now so how far can it go give your kids good morals don't fight for there oil stop burning books.
really they are just sick people of the mind and body.
Martin
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Internet censorship coming Internet2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKif_c3kto
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Well, at least we won't have to choose between the pc and the tv anymore.
Then there's always the baud system.
Regards...
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14.4 kbs was fast in those days. In order to get internet access, I had to phone in, long distance, to Case Western University in Ohio (from Calif.), where I had a free shell-account on one of their servers.
All local (and not so local) stuff was via BBS hosts, all over the phone lines.
Everything was text-based, All CPM and DOS, shell-accts were *nix.
Protocols were Xmodem, Ymodem, Zmodem, etc. instead of HTTP.
Info was slow to download and hard to find compared with today. Everybody knew GWBASIC and X86 ASM. C++ wasn't mainstream yet (SmallTalk for the Apple crowd) but C was popular with most, especially the *nix crowd.
Memory was segment-offset based, no continuous allocation...graphics required almost driver-level knowledge to pull-off. Sure is a lot easier today.
The problem, then and now, with managing accessibility is that in each case, the telcos controlled the 'pipes'.
If everything was wireless, p to p, this could be circumvented (it would be a lot like the old days, which were essentially p to p over the phones).
Wireless relays would work, but it would take a lot of doing to get a sizable majority on-board and even if we could, how would we handle trans-oceanic traffic?
Interesting thought, though.
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Perhaps this 'darknet' will be another alternative ?
http://www.darkreading.com/security/encryption/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=217801293
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Perhaps this 'darknet' will be another alternative ?
@cap
Well, the problem with any 'darknet' is that it still depends on the existing Internet, which is still controlled by Telcos and Governments.
The so called 'backbone', 'pipes', top-level domain name servers and routers that decide from second to second the path a 'packet' takes to reach it's destination, these can be controlled by substituting replacement records to TLD DNS databases and allowing the new records to propagate to all lower-level DNS servers, thus redirecting (or limiting/stopping) traffic and disrupting connectivity (this also provides a 'global' way to monitor traffic both from and to various sites that are under surveillance).
The Internet -is- the DNS system and the routers that subscribe to it.
On the other hand, wireless p2p (which would still benefit from redundant relay 'hubs' for any meaningful level of widespread interaction) would be under the direct control of the individuals using the system and wouldn't use the existing Internet, nor TELCO 'pipes' nor it's DNS servers/routers.
As with any network, it's efficacy would be dependent on the level of participation - no way around that (save tonnes of money to develop and implement a wholly private network...).
Understand, when I say 'wireless', I don't mean it in the WiFi sense, I'm talking about private secure traffic over packet-radio - in the old days ('60s & '70s) we used FSK and converter-comparators run through crypto devices to send and receive secure traffic worldwide over a network like this. Today, technology makes everything much easier to implement, so it is quite possible to do this on a global scale, but it does still require technically competent participation (and some degree of participatory 'will').
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Thanks ATT...not being that technically advanced, I thought maybe darknet was 'under the radar.
Its reassuring that people like you have the know how to get around privacy breaches by corrupt authorities.
Regards...
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Wow, Bulletin Board Systems. Haven't seen a running one in quite a while.
Yeah, there's an active sub-culture out there that runs the old console-mode BBS services (can't imagine why) over both dial-up and telnet - search for 'telnet bbs'.
(Remember, the Teletype 33 is where ASCII comes from.
I guess. In 1968 we were running out-of-date KSR and ASR-28 Teletypes, perforators and paper-tape to send and receive data over wireless networks. At that time, we were using a 7-bit code plus one 'stop bit'. ASCII was still going through changes but I remember we had both upper and lower case capability by that time, so I guess we were up-to-date.
I can't imagine trying ASM on a pentium in the lousy enviroment provided by windows. (*nix, maybe...) For a small driver, sure, but an entire BBS app
You know, I wouldn't ever attempt to write a major app from scratch in asm, either. Matter of fact you don't ever need to, just write it in C++, set your C++ compiler to generate assembly (/FA for MS compilers), compile the app, and then assemble the resulting *.asm code in MASM. You end up with a smaller, faster executable (or you could just compress it in UPX if 'small' is your thing).
asm is still very much with us, but doesn't occupy the status it did in the DOS days when machines were slow, memory was segmented and Mike Abrash's routines overcame the slow hardware platform with fast assembler code (so we all wanted to 'be like Mike').
Telenet system as part of the backbone
Yeah well, telnet isn't really part of the backbone, telnet is actually just another TCP/IP 'protocol' like rlogin, smtp, pop3, http, etc.. Anybody can run a telnet server, anybody can run a telnet client (Windows has one built-in).
I seem to remember the FSK and related encryption methods always caused me headaches when they were in vogue.
I think things are better today - digital transmission allows for compression and multiplexing, no noise floor, more bang for your bandwidth. FSK isn't related to any encryption methods, last I checked.
ASR28->[CRYPTO]->FSK->XMTR->CPLR->ANT
Hams, don't chide me here... If you guys still exist
Hams still exist but numbers are diminishing and all licenses (tech through xtra) are now 'no code'.
I'm not sure how one could implement a Wireless P2P system, with the amount of traffic that exists
I'm not either, but there's a lot better technology to work with now than we had in 1968, I'm sure a bunch of smart guys and gals could leverage a good bit of that tech to pull off a private 'extranet' that doesn't depend on telco 'pipes'.
Actually, the main problem isn't the technology, per se, it's the fact that any 'network' is a 'group' and that group needs to be connected to each other in some way in order to communicate. Right now, the main 'connections' are: phone lines, cable, satellite and wireless (WiFi and wireless WANs).
Turns out, the folks that own the 'connections' are telcos and governments. If they ever wanted to 'shut down' comms, they have the power, because they own the 'pipes'.
What's left? Roll your own net, over the air. Problem: establishing any network requires a lot of participation. Over the air networking is expensive, requires more gear, takes some know-how.
Most importantly, it takes a fair number of people being involved to provide the relays, hubs and connection points across a wide area, so it looks like that possibility is pretty remote.
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IS there any available band that allows digital transmission without major licensing?
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Maybe.
Now, if one were going to attempt to build an over-the air network, one consideration might be to first have look at what's available 'off the shelf' and build on that.
Along those lines, it might be possible to leverage GMRS (with some outboard modification to allow for two-way digital traffic).
it does require a license, but it's a simple 'pay your money - get a ticket' type of thing, no test, good for 5 years.
Altogether, between the FRS and GMRS allocation, there's 22 'channels'. Each of these has 38 'privacy codes', which are actually sub-channels, so there are (22 x 38)=[836] available channels to operate on, in reality.
Rather than step-on the shared FRS channels, staying in the GMRS-only allocations would be advisable.
GMRS is FM, 467MHZ, allows up to 50W, can modify your gear, supports relays, is duplex, requires sending station ID every 15 min (morse or voice), other restrictions as per FCC part-15.
Just off the top of my head, I'd think a workaround for broken-streams (stop and go traffic) would be some sort of aggregator that would allow for reconstitution of packets (intrinsic duplex operation is a big 'plus', in this case), which is normal, anyway, in a tcp/ip sense.
So, I would start with looking at this possibility, first. There'll be plenty of 'creative' hardware and software creation for you to get into to provide outboard support, but this might provide a tangible starting-point.
Look at it this way: In order to 'unplug' from the current system, all a group needs is 'a Pipe of one's own', everything else can, essentially, remain the same (along with additional security, of course).
If you can get the 'pipe' up and running, you've got your network.
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The internet is the last stand...the only place where you can still be free. They are already trying to conquer it. Google filters billions of key word combos and will not display the filtered results by any means. This is only the start of it.
IPV6 already has traffic shaping, control and security so everything will be directly filtered with no additional tools or equipment necessary.
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The internet is the last stand...the only place where you can still be free.
Amen.
And the screws are (have been) tightening on that 'freedom' as we speak.
I must say, it's difficult to come up with an alternative that is reasonably 'doable' given the present state of things.
Tony
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Like they say...'if man can make bit, man can break it.
Regards...
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Tony:
Need be the mother of invention. Where there is a will, there is a way. We will find it. Just think how hard a government has to work to run the US. All the troubles it has. Now pit that to a world size and try to keep it all running. Rome was not conquered but fell from within. As will the NWO. It can not work no matter how hard they try to MAKE it. When you have a whole country full of people rise up, its like a tidal wave when it hits. The Zulu tribe said no and meant it.
We may well be put under control for a while, but it can not last. What comes from the ashes, who knows. Now if we have a ELE on our horizon, who really cares.
thay
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Mr. Thaelin, you assume that people will have the possibility to rise up. At the current deployed tech level I cannot guarantee their free will anymore.
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" At the current deployed tech level I cannot guarantee their free will anymore."
Well, there goes all my lateral thinking classes down the drain.
Hmmm, maybe hemp or magic mushrooms could free up our minds again ?
Regards...
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There will always be thoes who will not bend to the shackles. They dont call it the underground for nothing. Look at the movies called terminator. The fight was for the most part futile, but fight they did. And fight they will.
thay
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Well guys this is a form of suppression...someone better drop the bomb regarding overunity...and explaining everything...even to newcomers so they can build it...even construction tecniques...then everyone has it.
Even videos...showing every thing and measurements...
I am afraid one person ruins the whole barrel...at least we know we can get enough power to light a fluorescent bulb useing earth batterys and really pirate proved it caused by the ions in the air to effect his earth batterys during the thunder storm...the stuff from 1900 and 1950 is mostly dead on.
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Somebody that knows something has got to release the free energy info soon.
Before long we'll have to head for the caves to avoid the forced vaccinations.
It would be nice to have a heated cave.
Regards...
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Somebody that knows something has got to release the free energy info soon.
Before long we'll have to head for the caves to avoid the forced vaccinations.
It would be nice to have a heated cave.
Regards...
I'll join you :D.
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That wood depend on how nice looking yer sister is.