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Author Topic: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow  (Read 5434 times)

Butch LaFonte

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From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« on: April 30, 2009, 07:33:28 PM »
Mylow,
If you can take the present self sustaining magnet motor from your last post and ship it to me, I will pay shipping costs to me and the return shipping to you and put it on public display with an armed guard. I will get three local television stations to air it. I will not use your screen name if that is what you prefer. I will take all MIB risks for you and put this on public display twenty four hours a day seven days a week and allow unrestricted public viewing on a glass table in the middle of a twenty five foot square concreate floor with no other object in that space but the motor on a glass table with glass legs. I will set up a web cam for continious viewing by the world.
It will be monitored twenty four hours a day by video with audio. An armed guard will be posted in the display area twenty four hours a day. I will monitor the demostration around the clock, never leaving the area. If you really want to get this technology out to the world without putting yourself in harms way, well here is your chance.
Regards,
Butch LaFonte
lafontegroup@charter.net

nitinnun

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2009, 12:25:00 AM »
i don't know if this is the type of motor,
of which you speak.

if this is not the type,
than this is almost certainly a better method of magnetic propulsion.



in magnetism,
repel is stronger than attract.


so if the positive and negative poles of a rotor magnet,
are both pressed against the positive pole of stator magnet,
than the rotor magnet will move !

move in only one direction.
in whatever direction the rotors positive pole,
is facing.

because the rotors positive,
is repelling harder,
than the rotors negative,
is attracting.

the stronger the magnetic field/s,
the harder/faster the rotor spins.


because if you have 20 pounds of force moving to the right,
and 10 pounds of force moving to the left,
you have a net movement of 10 pounds of force to the right.

the 10 pounds of force to the right,
wins the tug of war.

and the 10 pounds of force to the left,
can just shut up and take it.




once you have imagined it, it is very simple.
it is "why didn't i think of that!" simple.

but first, you must have imagination, to conceive of it.

which is why not everyone is convinced of it,
without first seeing a physical demonstration, in person.



lizards have little imagination.

lizards insist on having chunks of meat,
hand fed too them.
is if the owner is their servant,
and the lizard is royalty.

i think of people with little imagination,
who demand that inventions be physically shown to them,
before they will even consider the invention intellectually,
to be lizards.


royal lizards......

Michelinho

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2009, 01:48:24 AM »
A nitinnium,

Quote
in magnetism,
repel is stronger than attract.

That assertion is false. Read the work of Howard Johnson before trying to steer people in the wrong direction. If it was true, we would not have the sticky point. You have to shape the magnetic field to get a stronger repel force.

Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, we should learn from what is available.

Take care,

Michel


nitinnun

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2009, 02:38:10 AM »
A nitinnium,

That assertion is false. Read the work of Howard Johnson before trying to steer people in the wrong direction. If it was true, we would not have the sticky point. You have to shape the magnetic field to get a stronger repel force.

Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel, we should learn from what is available.

Take care,

Michel



before now, i had not read of howard johnsons devices.



i suspect that what i am thinking of,
is different than what howard johnson did.

i'm going to perform a test, to see.


if anything comes of my test, i will post about it.

Butch LaFonte

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2009, 03:44:57 AM »


i think of people with little imagination,
who demand that inventions be physically shown to them,
before they will even consider the invention intellectually,
to be lizards.


royal lizards......
[/quote]
I have been referred to many ways, but never as royalty. Sir Butch, I like that.
Regards,
Sir Butch LaFonte

nitinnun

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2009, 03:49:35 AM »
i wasn't thinking so much of you, butch,
as i was thinking of others i have observed.


you are willing to entertaine the device.
however exaggerated your offer is.


the ones i'm thinking of whine and moan and raise hell about how the device can only be "a hoax!!!" .

instead of considering how the device could be "true".



if a person only thinks about how something can not work,
than they will only discover ways that do not work.

if a person only things about how something CAN work,
than they will only discover ways that work !

Butch LaFonte

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2009, 03:59:20 AM »




if a person only thinks about how something can not work,
than they will only discover ways that do not work.

if a person only things about how something CAN work,
than they will only discover ways that work !
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What you just said above is a problem I have been up against for 15 years on the web.
If people put half the time and thought into figuring out how something might work as they do into how it will not work we would have had overunity machines on the open market ten years ago.
You think after 60 years I would understand people, but I am at a total loss as to why they behave the way they do.
Butch

utilitarian

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2009, 05:24:45 AM »
You think after 60 years I would understand people, but I am at a total loss as to why they behave the way they do.

I can answer that, at least with regard to free energy opponents (i.e. those who do not believe in perpetual motion/overunity.)

This is not true as to all, but to many.  People enjoy being right.  It is very satisfying to engage in an argument, and come out on top, at least for many people.  The problem, of course, with intense, high level debates, is that they are very taxing.  You really have to be on top of your game with certain topics, or you can really be schooled.  It's hard arguing high level economics, math, sciences, etc.

However, arguing with a proponent of perpetual motion is very easy.  You are always guaranteed to be right.  No matter what manner of complicated device the perpetual motion nut puts forth, he is guaranteed to be wrong by more science than is comprehensible.  Centuries of study have gone in on establishing the current laws of physics.  The free energy proponent cares nothing for this body of study (and assload of empirical proof), but thinks that the "mainstream" scientists are simply not working hard enough or are too closed minded, etc.

So anyway, it's satisfying to always be right, and that is why people do it.  And the perpetual motion guys are pretty gamely about it, always continuing to believe the craziest crap someone puts on youtube without too much critical thinking.

nitinnun

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2009, 07:46:21 AM »
most of the time, arguing is a fruitless waste of time.

in the case of these forums,
trivial argument buries innovation,
much more often than it reveals innovation.

if you people cut the excess from your communications, your research efficiency could easily increase by 600% or more.



there are dictionaries worth of things,
that mainstream western science, does not know.

there are hordes of things, that rich people have suppressed.
out of love for their cash cows.
or for their "influence".
or for their smug sense of superiority.
or maybe just because they feel like it.



anyone who thinks that mainstream science,
knows everything that exists to be known,
is a fool.


anyone who thinks that greedy people are honest enough,
to not hide information that is a threat to their income,
is a fool.


anyone who is EVER 100% convinced of their opinion,
and refuses to deeply consider the 1,000's of possible exceptions which could compromise their opinion,
is a super-fool.


anyone who thinks that "fossil fuel",
is the best energy source that the universes energy physics are capable of generating,
does not belong on this website.

because if someone believes that,
than what use could this website possibly have for them ?

why would they violate their sacred beliefs in absolute universe-wide energy-loss,
by coming to a website that is NAMED after getting more energy out than in ??????



unless......
they are just here to ARGUE with the researchers.

for the sake of arguing.........


Ergo

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 09:23:41 AM »
Mylow,
If you can take the present self sustaining magnet motor from your last post and ship it to me, I will pay shipping costs to me and the return shipping to you and put it on public display with an armed guard.

Is Mylow even aware of this offer? Is he an active member at this forum?
If NOT then asking for his participation is fruitless as he will never read this invitation.

Butch LaFonte

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2009, 06:36:39 PM »
Ergo,
Yes, he reads the posts here.
Butch

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Re: From Butch LaFonte, my offer to Mylow
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2009, 04:33:28 PM »
Mylow,
If you can take the present self sustaining magnet motor from your last post and ship it to me, I will pay shipping costs to me and the return shipping to you and put it on public display with an armed guard. I will get three local television stations to air it. I will not use your screen name if that is what you prefer. I will take all MIB risks for you and put this on public display twenty four hours a day seven days a week and allow unrestricted public viewing on a glass table in the middle of a twenty five foot square concreate floor with no other object in that space but the motor on a glass table with glass legs. I will set up a web cam for continious viewing by the world.
It will be monitored twenty four hours a day by video with audio. An armed guard will be posted in the display area twenty four hours a day. I will monitor the demostration around the clock, never leaving the area. If you really want to get this technology out to the world without putting yourself in harms way, well here is your chance.
Regards,
Butch LaFonte
lafontegroup@charter.net

Hi Butch, I was traveling around this forum looking for someone to share some HJ info with and noticed this thread. Based on what I know about Mylow he does not visit any of these forums and would not have seen your offer. I have strong reason to believe that what he is showing us is only his 'play toy' and that there may yet be a different version in the closet  ;D