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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2009, 12:35:47 AM »
BEMF is the emf generated in a wire next to a wire with current flowing through it, which is in opposition to the first current.

It is not magnetic field collapse or backward time.

If cold electricity involves a movement of electrons or is BEMF - why is there no magnetic field associated with it?

I never said it was BEMF.  I said it appears as BEMF on our instruments.  I also never said BEMF was backwards time.

BEMF and EMF is the same thing.  EMF comes from the source or a battery and BEMF comes from the load or motor.

Cold electricity is EMF from the reference frame of the aether and is BEMF with a negative time flow from our frame of reference in regards to a motor or a load.  It would look like EMF with a negative time flow if a generator was pulling it from the aether.  The bottom line is cold electricity registers on our instruments. 

Hot electricity is generated from forward time in the visible world and runs hot.  Cold electricity is generated from negative time in the aether and runs cold.  The aether can provide cold or hot electricity depending on how it's tapped.   

Stop trying to twist my words and taking what I said out of context, Grumpy.
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Re: Cold Electricity
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2009, 03:11:14 AM »
You guys are confusing photons with electrons.  Photons with enough energy can cause electrons to move along a conductor.  Tesla's wireless transmission of electricity is transmitting photons and not electrons. 

In order for this wireless transmission to do anything within a circuit, those photons must move the free electrons along a conductor.  The florescent bulb uses a phosphor coating that absorbs these photons from the wireless transmission to give off visible light.

The cold electricity I am referring to is electricity or the movement of negative time flow of electrons along a conductor, and not photons propagating through space.

Since I can't convince anyone that electricity is electron flow, then I sure can't convince anyone that cold electricity is the negative time flow of electrons. Just add this to the rest of my time that has already been wasted.

The Adams motor supposedly uses negative or cold electricity.  Here's more info for those who may be interested in this concept, http://members.fortunecity.com/freeenergy2000/adamsmotor.htm
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2009, 08:25:29 AM »
Some of my previous posts are hard to follow.  I will try to clarify my theory on this topic. It is a theory and not fact.

1)  Photons with enough energy can cause electrons to be ejected or to move.  Examples of this would be the photovaliac solar cell and the Tesla coil lighting a fluorescent bulb due to the photons interacting with the phosphor coating.  Photons are also responsible for the electromagnetic waves.  Photons exist in forward time.

2)  Virtual photons in physics are responsible for the magnetic field of flux in the magnets.  The reason why they are virtual is because they have never been detected or isolated.  The reason for their non-detection is because they are moving faster than the speed of light which are equipment is not capable of detecting.

3)  The magnetic field of flux in a magnet has two different components to it.  One component is the forward time flow of virtual photons and the other component is the negative time flow of virtual photons.  The forward time flow of virtual photons converts electrons into photons as it is scattered through the load and this is detected as heat. 

The Second component is the negative time flow of the magnetic field that converts the virtual photons into electrons with negative time flow and is detected as cold electricity.  Heat will not be detected since the negative time flow of electrons will convert to virtual photons as it is scattered through the load.

This is inline with current physics.  Energy can't be created nor destroyed.  Since energy can't be created, then it must come from the present and past to allow for a future in the physical world.  Since energy can't be destroyed, then it must come from the past into the present to allow for a no beginning of the physical world.

Since the magnetic field of flux can get out of a black hole, this suggests that those virtual particles can travel faster than the speed of light, which allows them to come from our past (there present) into our present (their future or next now) and this is how the universes have come into existence.

Give all glory to our Creator.
 

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2009, 08:25:29 AM »
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2009, 08:33:36 AM »

The cold electricity I am referring to is electricity or the movement of negative time flow of electrons along a conductor, and not photons propagating through space.


Okay,
The cold electricity I am referring to does not involve electrons.


Since I can't convince anyone that electricity is electron flow, then I sure can't convince anyone that cold electricity is the negative time flow of electrons. Just add this to the rest of my time that has already been wasted.


Well you open'd up this topic about things being the same while you did not define these things in the first place.
I have already noticed there are alot of people who think diffrent things when they read the same words.

This means the same thing has diffrent meanings to diffrent people so, how on earth can you say they are the same thing without defining those things in the first place?

I cannot be convinced by words.
I can only be convinced by what i see in my experiments, but then again, what is real?
How would you define real?
If you are talking about what you can feel, what you can see, smell, and taste, it seems that real is simply electric impulses interpeted by the brain......

Maybe you can, like i did, point out to some repeatable experiment, which shows diffrent behaviour then the well known but wrongly understood conventional stuff, and so we can see for ourselfs what your cold electricity looks like???

Marco.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2009, 08:52:30 AM »
Okay,
The cold electricity I am referring to does not involve electrons.

Well you open'd up this topic about things being the same while you did not define these things in the first place.
I have already noticed there are alot of people who think diffrent things when they read the same words.

This means the same thing has diffrent meanings to diffrent people so, how on earth can you say they are the same thing without defining those things in the first place?

I cannot be convinced by words.
I can only be convinced by what i see in my experiments, but then again, what is real?
How would you define real?
If you are talking about what you can feel, what you can see, smell, and taste, it seems that real is simply electric impulses interpeted by the brain......

Maybe you can, like i did, point out to some repeatable experiment, which shows diffrent behaviour then the well known but wrongly understood conventional stuff, and so we can see for ourselfs what your cold electricity looks like???

Marco.

You are absolutely correct.  I didn't define what I was talking about correctly.  I am not a good communicator.  The previous post I made tried to define what I was referring to as cold electricity.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2009, 09:51:09 AM »
Your above post sounds a little bit like Tom Bearden to me.


Tesla's wireless transmission of electricity is transmitting photons and not electrons. 


Can you please explain how you came to this conclusion?

Marco.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2009, 10:04:23 AM »
Can someone tell me how many kinds of photons there are.

We know of the visible kind and then we know of some of the invisible ones like ultra-violet and infra-red.

How many others are there?  ??? ??? ???

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2009, 11:05:00 AM »
Can someone tell me how many kinds of photons there are.

We know of the visible kind and then we know of some of the invisible ones like ultra-violet and infra-red.

How many others are there?  ??? ??? ???

Hans von Lieven

Only one kind of photon.  The photon makes up the entire electromagnetic spectrum from radio waves to gamma rays.  Photons are delivered in packets or quanta.  Higher frequency photons can be delivered faster than lower frequency photons.  The higher frequency photons travel the same distance as lower frequency photons in a given amount of time, but they travel more space in the same amount of given time.  This is due to their wavelength.

Try to visualize a photon propagating through space in a corkscrew motion.  The shorter wavelengths will have a tighter corkscrew motion and is making more turns per revolutions than the longer wavelength photons, thus traveling the same distance but traveling more space in a given amount of time than a longer wavelength photon.

A photon that propagates through space in a straight line instead of a corkscrew motion would have a near zero wavelength and could be delivered in a continuous stream instead of packets, thus traveling faster than the speed of light.  In my opinion, this is the virtual photons and virtual particles that physics theorize about.

Try to think of a led light blinking.  The slower it blinks, the longer the wavelength is. This would represent a photon with a longer wavelength.  The faster it blinks, the shorter the wavelength is.  If the light is continuously on with no blinking, then it would have a zero to near zero wavelength and this would represent the virtual photon that physics theorize for the magnetic field of flux.

This is the reason why the magnetic field of flux is not changing in a magnet (the virtual photons are being delivered in a continuous stream and cutting the flow of electrons), thus we have to move the magnet or conductor in order to cause electrons to flow along a conductor.

If the virtual photons were delivered in packets in the magnetic field of flux, then we would have a changing magnetic field of flux and wouldn't need to move the magnet or conductor for electron flow and would have OU very easily.

It appears to me that the entire universe is a sea of these virtual particles, which I say is the aether.

Most of this is currently accepted in physics as being correct, but some of this is my own personal theory.

What do you think about this theory of mine?

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2009, 12:31:14 PM »
Your above post sounds a little bit like Tom Bearden to me.

Can you please explain how you came to this conclusion?

Marco.

If I tell you how I came to this conclusion, you wouldn't believe me.  Let's just say it is a feeling that I have and not a fact.

The popular Tesla coils that are well known are the direct result of the apparatus perfected by Sir Oliver Lodge and not by Nikola Tesla.

Lodge Coils are alternators. Tesla Transformers are unidirectional impulses. Tesla Transformers are not magneto electric devices, they use radiant shock waves, and produce pure voltage without current.  No current means no electron flow.

The reason for no current, is because the electrons and positrons annihilate each other due to using both the negative and forward time of space, and this would give off huge amounts of high energy photons that would be transmitted through space to a receiver box.  The process that gave off the huge amount of photons is cold electricity or radiant energy, but the current that would flow from the receiver box would be normal electricity.

The cold electricity that I am referring to would only use the negative time flow of virtual photons or space, from the magnetic field of flux to produce a negative time flow of electrons along a conductor, instead of producing forward time flow of photons that would propagate through space as in Tesla's setup.

You will have more questions than I have answers for.
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Re: Cold Electricity
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2009, 01:08:58 PM »

The popular Tesla coils that are well known are the direct result of the apparatus perfected by Sir Oliver Lodge and not by Nikola Tesla.

Lodge Coils are alternators. Tesla Transformers are unidirectional impulses. Tesla Transformers are not magneto electric devices, they use radiant shock waves, and produce pure voltage without current.  No current means no electron flow.



My question was related to wireless power transfer and photons.
Now you are talking about Tesla coils...Those two are diffrent things.


The reason for no current, is because the electrons and positrons annihilate each other, and this would give off huge amounts of high energy photons that would be transmitted through space to a receiver box.  The process that gave off the huge amount of photons is cold electricity or radiant energy, but the current that would flow from the receiver box would be normal electricity.

You will have more questions than I have answers for.



propagate through space as in Tesla's setup.


Tesla's Wireless system did not transmit anything through space to a receiver box, Tesla used earth as the hot terminal.
The energy was propagated through earth itself.
If you read Eric P. Dollard's book "Theory of wireless power"
He explains very well how Tesla's system operated.
The tower was simply a weight to push against, a "virtual ground" in order for the system to become self referencing.

Marco.








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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2009, 01:14:56 PM »
The popular Tesla coils that are well known are the direct result of the apparatus perfected by Sir Oliver Lodge and not by Nikola Tesla.

Lodge Coils are alternators. Tesla Transformers are unidirectional impulses. Tesla Transformers are not magneto electric devices, they use radiant shock waves, and produce pure voltage without current.  No current means no electron flow.

been reading jerry vasilatos 'secrets of cold war technology' have we?


@marco, i think by 'receiver box' he was referencing tesla's pierce arrow

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« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2009, 01:16:57 PM »

@marco, i think by 'receiver box' he was referencing tesla's pierce arrow


That is still a diffrent story!!
We keep mixing things up here  :-\

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2009, 01:47:50 PM »
My question was related to wireless power transfer and photons.
Now you are talking about Tesla coils...Those two are diffrent things.

Tesla's Wireless system did not transmit anything through space to a receiver box, Tesla used earth as the hot terminal.
The energy was propagated through earth itself.
If you read Eric P. Dollard's book "Theory of wireless power"
He explains very well how Tesla's system operated.
The tower was simply a weight to push against, a "virtual ground" in order for the system to become self referencing.

Marco.

I am not talking about Tesla coils that was perfected by Sir Oliver Lodge.  I was talking about Tesla's transformers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_electricity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-positron_annihilation

What will travel through the ground?  Photons won't travel very far through the ground.  Electrons wouldn't travel very far through the earth either.  How far would a lightning bolt that is millions of volts travel through the ground?  It wouldn't even make it a 100 feet through the earth and you think Tesla's wireless system could transmit electricity through the ground that could travel around the globe.  Then this electricity that is transmitted through the ground magically comes to the surface and goes to a circuit.  The earth can not be both a "hot terminal" for this electricity and a ground terminal for normal electricity without changing the properties of the earth. That is not common sense.  The wireless system transmitted through space and not the earth.  Does anyone have a mind of their own?
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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2009, 02:10:18 PM »

you think Tesla's wireless system could transmit electricity through the ground that could travel around the globe.


I do, and trust me, it did...


 Then this energy that is transmitted through the ground magically comes to the surface and goes to a circuit.


Exactly.


 The wireless system transmitted through space and not the earth. 


Did not.

Marco.


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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2009, 02:18:35 PM »
LMFAO

We agree on almost everything except how and where it traveled.  I'm not changing my opinion, but I will respect yours.

 

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