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Offline WilbyInebriated

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #195 on: January 24, 2011, 11:20:29 AM »
So Quarktoo
How about that simple experiment you spoke of?

Chet
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #195 on: January 24, 2011, 11:20:29 AM »

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #196 on: January 24, 2011, 12:25:32 PM »
So Quarktoo
How about that simple experiment you spoke of?

Chet

Only Saint Buzz could do such an experiment and he is too cold due to a lack of stars and magical troll repelling powers. Quarrktoo feels the same way.

Interesting that I was able to predict that unusual copper coated iron wire was being used in Gray device? I would tell you why but that would be a "theory" and the I don't want to push master clown to go into theory police mode all day. Got an experiment to do.

Busy
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #197 on: January 24, 2011, 03:08:54 PM »
Good experimenting to you sir!!,May the powers of OU
Grace your Bench !

ITS FREAKIN COLD HERE!! TELL SAINT BUZZ I GOT SNOOKIMS AND CHALOOPA BUFFIN STARS!!
Chaloopa can't wash anyway the waters FROEZEN]

On A side Note,I had Snookims[Not pictured] neutered AGAIN,
Hopefully no more Inappropriate Buffing from him!!

Chet
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Chaloopa is a veteran of the Hubbell project.
She takes no responsibility for that polishing fiasco,
And assures Saint Buzz that his stars will outshine the Hubbell job!!

The Best of the best workin on this!!
« Last Edit: January 24, 2011, 03:44:19 PM by ramset »

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #197 on: January 24, 2011, 03:08:54 PM »
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #198 on: January 24, 2011, 10:56:13 PM »
Detecting Aharonov-Bohm Oscillations In "Trojan Electrons", http://flux.aps.org/meetings/YR97/BAPSAPR97/vpr/layn18-14.html

Trojan Wave Packet, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_wave_packet

GB

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #199 on: January 24, 2011, 11:46:23 PM »
So Quarktoo
How about that simple experiment you spoke of?

Chet

Ironically, the guys I was planning to build and ship it to already figured it out.

http://www.youtube.com/user/theUMMCorg#p/c/88AB74065426BA7F

It is what I was going to teach PhysicsProfessor but he decided to join the clown parade. Note how it self runs, is a monopole and is connected to the universe?

Understanding how it works is simple if you understand what electricity is. Or... you can sit around and blatherate about your meter collection or trying to measure some insignificant amount of power that does not exist at Larry World. But hey... Join Larry in prayer and "believe" it will work by all means.


I left all the information anyone would ever need to figure it out. Rodin teaches you how to wind the coil.

Now get my star back or I am going put you in the movies.  ;D

« Last Edit: January 26, 2011, 02:15:37 AM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #199 on: January 24, 2011, 11:46:23 PM »
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quarktoo

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #200 on: January 24, 2011, 11:55:21 PM »
Detecting Aharonov-Bohm Oscillations In "Trojan Electrons", http://flux.aps.org/meetings/YR97/BAPSAPR97/vpr/layn18-14.html

Trojan Wave Packet, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_wave_packet

GB

Sound like GB is getting interested in my AB effect rant. It is one of the two top methods from what I can see to connect to the universe.

Remember how I was telling PhysicsProfessor you could measure it on Pluto if he knew what he was doing? Thanks for posting that. Rome to New York is a good start.

Without doubt the most interesting effects I have ever run across. How can anyone claim to understand electricity without first understanding AB effect is a mystery. Why build radios the way we do? All radio stations could be picked up from anywhere in the universe with minute power levels.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #201 on: January 25, 2011, 02:54:25 AM »
quarktoo Quote:

I left all the information anyone would ever need to figure it out. Rodin teaches you how to wind the coil.

Now get my star back or I am going put you in the movies. 
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Figure sshhhmigure,Movies ssshhmovies!
Tell us how to get started?

Never mind this Look here......... look there....... stuff!
Never mind this "its in the Pages crap".

This sounds very cool!This AB Thing! get us going on this!

Focus the efforts or we'll be playin with Jewel theives till the cows come home,and Larry world will get so big it'll go public and Larry will get rich on the IPO!

Come on lets do this already!!
Movies....................Shmoovies..............
We got this 2012 thing coming up?
Pole flips ETC..............
This ObahmaNation ain't doing so good,we need a little somethin?

Chet
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Besides My compu has no sound,I need sub titles?
« Last Edit: January 25, 2011, 03:26:41 AM by ramset »

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Re: Cold Electricity
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #202 on: January 25, 2011, 04:04:45 AM »
Is there any proof that cold electricity is more than a joke?

If you mean the Aharonov-Bohm effect by AB effect, this proved that the vector potentials are real.  This is not energy source, so how is related to excess electrical energy?

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #203 on: January 25, 2011, 05:20:09 AM »
If you mean the Aharonov-Bohm effect by AB effect, this proved that the vector potentials are real.  This is not energy source, so how is related to excess electrical energy?

There is a relationship between energy and the force that imparts acceleration to a body, but only a certain relationship. Water activates a turbine, but the gravitational force which activated the water was never turned into electrical energy.  We can use the AB effect in the same manner as the gravitational force is used to activate the water to turn a turbine.

We must also bear in mind that a body, however much energy of its own it may have, does not move unless an exterior force sets it in motion. If one charges a sphere with a considerable amount of energy, it still does not move. Nevertheless if a force is applied to it, a corresponding impulse is transferred to the sphere.  All the intrinsic energy of an electron, supposing an electron to be a particle, would be of no use to it, unless there were an exterior force to impart acceleration to its mass.

As a wave form however, an electron perpetuates its vibration within a field without losing its characteristic wave structure. These wave structures have the property of moving through a field, or remaining stationary within it. An electron is a stationary wave form within an atom.

GB
« Last Edit: January 25, 2011, 05:46:49 AM by gravityblock »

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Re: Cold Electricity
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #204 on: January 25, 2011, 06:20:52 AM »
Aharonov Bohm effect cause phase shift not acceleration

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #205 on: January 25, 2011, 07:31:26 AM »
Aharonov Bohm effect cause phase shift not acceleration

Potentials are Primary while the Fields are Just Changes to the Potentials.

The phase shift is the most commonly described case for the AB effect, but it's not limited to this case only.  The overall A-potential has multiple field components with multiple kinds of changes ongoing simultaneously.  This potential can be tapped into in order to pull energy out of the vacuum, from space/time itself.  Wheeler clearly pointed out that mass and space continually interact. Quoting Wheeler: "Space acts on matter, telling it how to move. In turn, matter reacts back on space, telling it how to curve".

The magnetic vector potential (A) was once believed not to be physically real, but only a mathematical convenience that was defined by an equation.  Today, particularly since the advent of quantum electrodynamics, it is the potentials that are real and primary while the fields are only changes in the potentials. In short, the B-field is just a curled A-potential. 

http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/On%20the%20Aharonov-Bohm%20Effect1.doc

GB
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #206 on: January 25, 2011, 09:15:48 AM »
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The magnetic vector potential (A) was once believed not to be physically real, but only a mathematical convenience that was defined by an equation.  Today, particularly since the advent of quantum electrodynamics, it is the potentials that are real and primary while the fields are only changes in the potentials. In short, the B-field is just a curled A-potential. 
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This point is still controversial in mainstream physics. Potentials are only defined up to an additive constant that one can arbitrarily choose. At first glance, something that we can choose at will can't be considered "real". As you suggested, only "changes in the potentials" generate effects, such a potential gradient in space or a time varying potential. But what would mean physically a single potential is not understood because we need another potential for reference. This led to the gauge theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_invariance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_theory).



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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #207 on: January 25, 2011, 01:14:17 PM »
But what would mean physically a single potential is not understood because we need another potential for reference. This led to the gauge theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_invariance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauge_theory).

The reason it is not understood is that "physics" does not seem to understand that the speed of light is relevant to the observer and there are speeds both faster and slower than the speed of light. This is why we can only account for 4.5% of the light in the universe.

Until people realize that "physics" has been hijacked and people that that use these one sided models have had their brains hijacked also, things like free energy are not going to exist.

Physics and a tool named Grumpy claims that a magnetic field does not terminate in empty space. Maybe physics can explain why this plasma ball sitting on top a Rodin coil does not show any flux lines coming back around the outside of the coil? That is the difference between a mass converter and a time converter IMO.

I think this discussion should be broken out into AB effect and perhaps further into Rodin coils or maybe someone should start a "brain storm thread" or something. One thing is for certain, physics can't explain the speed amplification of voltage to the speed of light without using silly meaningless labels like "field" or phenomenon.

Where is the other end if the field in that coil and plasma ball? What caused the voltage speed amplification? Those are two really good question to start with. I would love to hear other peoples answers.

You will find your free energy hidden in the cracks of the laws of physics.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #208 on: January 25, 2011, 01:18:02 PM »
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Until people realize that "physics" has been hijacked and people that that use these one sided models have had their brains hijacked also, things like free energy are not going to exist.
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Cute... ;D


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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #209 on: January 26, 2011, 03:58:11 AM »
Potentials are Primary while the Fields are Just Changes to the Potentials.

The phase shift is the most commonly described case for the AB effect, but it's not limited to this case only.  The overall A-potential has multiple field components with multiple kinds of changes ongoing simultaneously.  This potential can be tapped into in order to pull energy out of the vacuum, from space/time itself.  Wheeler clearly pointed out that mass and space continually interact. Quoting Wheeler: "Space acts on matter, telling it how to move. In turn, matter reacts back on space, telling it how to curve".

The magnetic vector potential (A) was once believed not to be physically real, but only a mathematical convenience that was defined by an equation.  Today, particularly since the advent of quantum electrodynamics, it is the potentials that are real and primary while the fields are only changes in the potentials. In short, the B-field is just a curled A-potential. 

http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/On%20the%20Aharonov-Bohm%20Effect1.doc

GB

Tom Bearden use this effect to explain MEG device that still not work or not work well.  Maybe he make this up.

Energy moves along wire and drags electrons if right orientation.  This energy moving along wire is the cold one no?

 

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