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Offline ramset

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #165 on: September 12, 2010, 12:33:06 AM »
Grumpy
Are you serious?
I mean your not just pickin on me?Isn't that a little tricky??
I have company today but I will look Tonight!

Chet


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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #165 on: September 12, 2010, 12:33:06 AM »

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #166 on: September 12, 2010, 05:44:26 AM »
Grumpy
Are you serious?
I mean your not just pickin on me?Isn't that a little tricky??
I have company today but I will look Tonight!

Chet

Yep.  Serious.  Talkin' is talkin' and walkin' is walkin'.

Offline ramset

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #167 on: September 12, 2010, 03:19:36 PM »
Grumpy,
I must be candid,I do believe absolutely you are capable of doing this,I have zero doubt.
However this is beyond my present skill level,I am quite sure that I could understand what is going on there [seeing as how I've been attending OU school regularly].
But I believe for "me" right now that this


http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9690.msg256688#new

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9448.msg256712#new

would be easier to "harvest" from and holds less
political BS and could be done with some of the coil designs you fellahs have been playing with.

No disassocciation of pure water [scary shit].

get the Gas without the scary stuff!
And the "harvest" is the gas!

Unless you feel It would be easier to "harvest" the SM way ?
This only you would know!

This world needs something NOW!!

Chet
« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 03:45:28 PM by ramset »

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #167 on: September 12, 2010, 03:19:36 PM »
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Offline Magneticitist

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #168 on: September 12, 2010, 03:46:19 PM »
i think negative electricity or cold electricity is nothing more than the utilization of super high voltages to run low voltage loads.

electricity is only considered "hot" when current is introduced.. we all know electrostatic charge carries no heat.

the use of a spark gap helps us tune this cold electricity, but in the end its just compressed voltage i believe. the only way to light a filament bulb and not have it get hot is to light it dimly with a spark gap.. far as i know..compressed voltage.. otherwise u are introducing current and no matter what that current will expel heat.

if it's negative voltages were talking about there are a number of ways to get a meter to read negative voltage. it would also seem using this idea of "negative charge" would mean simply charging a capacitor backwards would make it use negative flow.

if current is naturally alternating, and alternates always, even in DC (back emf) then why would current flow even matter. at that point we are talking a linear direction of motion similar to reversing the polarity on a motor making it spin the other way. the actual characteristics of the electricity does not change tho.

i need more info on this cold electricity and how to "use" it other than running loads from a spark gapped tesla coil

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #169 on: September 12, 2010, 03:55:02 PM »
the only way to light a filament bulb and not have it get hot is to light it dimly with a spark gap.. far as i know..compressed voltage.. otherwise u are introducing current and no matter what that current will expel heat.
there is no spark gap in this...
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6123.msg218520#msg218520
« Last Edit: September 12, 2010, 04:24:55 PM by WilbyInebriated »

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #169 on: September 12, 2010, 03:55:02 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #170 on: September 12, 2010, 09:54:48 PM »
Grumpy,
I salute you sir!!
You truly are a man of good intentions and integrity!!

Chetkremens@gmail.com

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #171 on: September 12, 2010, 10:37:15 PM »
Signma16,

I had a look at that design you put forth here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4297.0

A quote from the well written post stated "The frequency should be a harmonic of the NMR of iron"

Nuclear magnetic resonate frequency of iron is 21.5 MHZ. Notice how Stiffler got an energy peak at 10.5 MHZ on his cold electricity claim? Notice how he didn't test above that frequency? He surely had the equipment to do it...

When TheBuzz pointed out the NMR harmonic, all hell broke loose and Stiffler took a hike. When I use the term "safe free energy device" I am always talking about NMR frequency of iron.

You can listen to the NMR freq. of iron on a police scanner at 21.5 MHZ and it is the reason that not much occupies that part of the RF spectrum. I point that out since a cheap scanner can be used as a piece of test equipment.

Once NMR has been achieved, the iron emits BETA particles which is mass being splattered from the core which draws more current into the coil to fill the vacuum. Use safety glasses to shield your eyes from the BETA if you enjoy having the long term vision.

A shorted coil will act somewhat like a spark gap in accelerating particles. It is really just the sharp swing of high low of a spark gag producing acceleration verses the magnet compression / acceleration of a shorted coil producing a reflected wave blast. So one could make the argument that spark gap is full wave at light speed verses the mag compression at magnetic saturation speed.

If you couple that shorted coil with a magnet, you can achieve a higher output since the magnet acts like a spring that is fixed at one point. The shorted coil is the anchor.

With very little modification, Stiffler's loopstick antenna design can go OU. But why didn't he do that? Probably because he was using multiple usernames and IP's to quietly get peoples names and addresses in the free energy movement. What did they gain for giving him that info? Nothing.

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Re: Cold Electricity
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quarktoo

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #172 on: September 12, 2010, 10:43:48 PM »
I should add to that that FE56 (common iron) will give up two electrons at NMR frequency transmuting it to FE 54 which is radioactive. You can look that up on some periodic element tables to verify.

If you go to

http://www.ccmr.cornell.edu/education/ask/index.html?quid=734

You will read that "We detect Hydrogen atoms by exciting them at their resonant frequency of 42,580,000 Hz."

Odd how it is almost exactly twice the NMR of FE56 huh?

Maybe the exact NMR frequency of pure iron is 21.29 MHZ instead of 21.5 MHZ?

Offline Magneticitist

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #173 on: September 12, 2010, 11:00:06 PM »
well unless im looking at the wrong place that schematic does use a spark gap.

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Re: Cold Electricity
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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #174 on: September 12, 2010, 11:19:12 PM »
Signma16,

I had a look at that design you put forth here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4297.0

A quote from the well written post stated "The frequency should be a harmonic of the NMR of iron"

Nuclear magnetic resonate frequency of iron is 21.5 MHZ. Notice how Stiffler got an energy peak at 10.5 MHZ on his cold electricity claim? Notice how he didn't test above that frequency? He surely had the equipment to do it...

When TheBuzz pointed out the NMR harmonic, all hell broke loose and Stiffler took a hike. When I use the term "safe free energy device" I am always talking about NMR frequency of iron.

You can listen to the NMR freq. of iron on a police scanner at 21.5 MHZ and it is the reason that not much occupies that part of the RF spectrum. I point that out since a cheap scanner can be used as a piece of test equipment.

Once NMR has been achieved, the iron emits BETA particles which is mass being splattered from the core which draws more current into the coil to fill the vacuum. Use safety glasses to shield your eyes from the BETA if you enjoy having the long term vision.

A shorted coil will act somewhat like a spark gap in accelerating particles. It is really just the sharp swing of high low of a spark gag producing acceleration verses the magnet compression / acceleration of a shorted coil producing a reflected wave blast. So one could make the argument that spark gap is full wave at light speed verses the mag compression at magnetic saturation speed.

If you couple that shorted coil with a magnet, you can achieve a higher output since the magnet acts like a spring that is fixed at one point. The shorted coil is the anchor.

With very little modification, Stiffler's loopstick antenna design can go OU. But why didn't he do that? Probably because he was using multiple usernames and IP's to quietly get peoples names and addresses in the free energy movement. What did they gain for giving him that info? Nothing.

Then 21.5 MHz must also be a harmonic of the pulsation of the universe.

Note that the device is called tetrahedral but he says the the lower three coils are at 30 degrees - so not a true tetrahedron.  The collector located where the fields intersect - the region of the outer areas of the coils. Lay out on paper and it is a parallelogram region.

So, you gonna get a piece of this?

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #175 on: September 13, 2010, 12:31:49 AM »
How do you apply the "shorted coil"?

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #175 on: September 13, 2010, 12:31:49 AM »
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quarktoo

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #176 on: September 13, 2010, 01:36:03 AM »
Then 21.5 MHz must also be a harmonic of the pulsation of the universe.

Note that the device is called tetrahedral but he says the the lower three coils are at 30 degrees - so not a true tetrahedron.  The collector located where the fields intersect - the region of the outer areas of the coils. Lay out on paper and it is a parallelogram region.

So, you gonna get a piece of this?

I would not say no to getting a piece of it but these days I am strapped for cash. However there are far more simple ways of producing OU devices.

Rather than cascading transistors, why not use a fast counter driven by a variable clock circuit on the driver side? Perfect output and it is simple.

I will get a better function generator in the future and get back to work but for now I am financially hindered.

quarktoo

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #177 on: September 13, 2010, 01:38:43 AM »
How do you apply the "shorted coil"?

http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaneCHeins

Remove Lentz force reaction and the game changes using an inductor.

quarktoo

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #178 on: September 13, 2010, 01:45:05 AM »
Thane is pretty careful to not go OU and while his stuff is crude and lacks imagination, he does a beautiful job of showing the possibility. Free energy is all about the word possibility.

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Re: Cold Electricity
« Reply #179 on: September 13, 2010, 04:17:59 AM »
   You take any mass and accelerate it so that it has eaten photons.  The photons have been absorbed,  Lets say the photons are ultraviolet tasting photons.  The electrons in a gas have alot of freedom of motion as compared to a liquid or solid.  They can go along ways before any collisions occur.  Each atom then becomes radioactive and emits beta particles.  (the difference between an accelerated electron and beta radiation seems unclear to me.  Maybe someone knows and can help me out with this mind fart I am having trying to differentiate between beta and electrons bumping around in a wire)
     According to Einsteins conversion the parent atom has lost mass.  It has lost the total mass of the electron.  I really dont see Einstein limiting his mass conversion to energy equation with any scaling parmeters.  Again I may be mistaken,   
     The ionizing frequency will determine the amount of energy of the individual electrons and thei amount of excitation.  The intensity of the photons or number of photons radiated into the bulk of the atoms will determine the amount of excited electrons.  I dont know about you but when I take a shower there are two different ways I can heat my skin.  I can open the valve completely and have this massive torrent of hot water flow over me very quickly with most of the heat ending up heating the drain plumbing or I can regulate the whole process so that the water is completely cooled to the desired temperature by the time it drips off my toes.  Best way to intensify photons is like when my cool uncle use to start fires with a mangnifying glass.  The refraction through the lense caused an intensification of the photons irradiating the leaf.  He didnt describe it in this way he just said watch this shit and did it.    Pretty much what a spark gap does inside a combustion chamber.   Think germanium or any other focusing crystal like the ones they use in light admitting stimulated electron radiation machines.  They intensify the photon radiation,   
    We now take this intense photon radiation at a given photon flavor and direct it into a gas mixture like air where ionization of oxygen and nitrogen proceed.  Both oxygen and nitrogen will have a different frequency where cascade ionization occurs.  This is why a spark gap is kinda cool because it is so multispectrum.  Tesla stumbled across the cascade ionization effect messing around with highvoltage and magnetic quenching of the gap.  He paid for it too.  Sticking your head in a cyclotron is not considered a safe thing to do.  The uv from his sparkgaps ionized alot of his retina so he lost control of eye dialation feedback.  This is a warning you start messing around with ionizing frequencies be prepared for radiation sickness.  You want to suntan just get a big old magnifying glass and line it up with a spark gap for 20minutes.  You wake up the next day with a sunburn.  Myers used the cascade ionization effect in his water car.    Marvel at that.  Molecular collisions with the sidewalls of a container where one of the sidewalls is moveable.  What he did do was use an inert gas and recycle the same so that you dont have to reheat the gas.  Its not majic it is effiecient.    He wasnt doing shit with water.  The car did not run on water it ran on air dissolved in the water..  Water is saturated with air in varying degrees.  You lower the vapor pressure on top of a bottle of water long before the water boils the dissolved gas expands an floats out into the ionizing chamber.  This air is then bombarded with ionizing frequencies he powers up with his modified car alternator.  The idiot bypassed the regulator to get high voltage.  I use to do this for customers and get 120 volts out of an alternator at 500hz.  It isnt majic it is bullshit.  The air undergoing cie then is mixed with the inert gas where it results in photon absorption by the inert gas thermal expansion and the rest is history.
   You ask me all of the free energy devices are products of cie.  Cie is the process that powers neuclear power plants.  The danger being that the stuff they are using to get some catalyzing radio activity or ionizing frequencies is going to emit ionizing frequencies for thousands of years.  In order to control the masses an exotic fuel scource is introduced by the smarter than average bears and boo boo is left asking yogi questions that the smarter than average bear is unable to answer.   Like this one.  BOO BOO to yogi.  Yogi if your fusion process works wont that change all the hydrogen in the water into helium in the air and we wont be able to breath or drink.  Yogi  I dont know BOO BOO baby but it sure will help us to get into them there pickanic baskets.  BOO BOO"  I guess your right Yogi.  Yogi:  You know it Boo boo I'm smarter than the average bear.
   
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