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Author Topic: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!  (Read 32082 times)

AB Hammer

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2010, 04:55:57 AM »
WTF? Does anyone on these forums know how to read? Wtf does acceleration have to with this wheel? Oh, if you actually READ this thread, you'd already know the answer.

GraViTaR

 Even if it spins 1/2 the way and stops and makes the shift. It will do it a little faster each time until it reaches its maximum speed to shift which will be an acceleration. If it doesn't do this you will have to do a time test. But if it does, it is a sign of a proper runner possibility. We sometimes come from different views so people may explain things differently, it doesn't mean we didn't read it, but we often look at things differently as well.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2010, 05:39:54 AM »
GraViTaR

 Even if it spins 1/2 the way and stops and makes the shift. It will do it a little faster each time until it reaches its maximum speed to shift which will be an acceleration. If it doesn't do this you will have to do a time test. But if it does, it is a sign of a proper runner possibility. We sometimes come from different views so people may explain things differently, it doesn't mean we didn't read it, but we often look at things differently as well.

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Why would it "do it a little faster each time"? It is not supposed to go "faster each time". It turns slowly, the same speed every half rotation, stops, then the weight returns to the top, trips the release, and turns half a rotation. STOPS, then the weight returns to the top, trips the release, turns half a rotation. STOPS!!!!, then the weight returns to the top, ad infinitum.

Are you one of those speed freaks that thinks something needs to go fast to be effective?
Well if you are, then you will never make a working wheel because speed creates centrifugal force which is exactly what you DON'T want.

Cloxxki

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2010, 08:37:42 AM »
As there is no fluent movement, and axis shift in this design, it's closer to a self-powered clock, it seems.
As the rollers/lifters start/stop, they'll need to do this every time, the same way. If they indeed manage to do the lift with positive center of mass shift, where a flip or turn of the wheel resets the whole system, hey, it's a perpetuum mobile. Nicest would be with a it of a load on it, so we are not getting into the frictionless bearings, vacuum environment deal.

As usual, I hope it works, but until then I fear the COM is not positively shifted.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #33 on: April 17, 2010, 10:41:19 AM »
Make it run and see how long it runs. I bet you it will stop eventually  ;) This is simple pendulum mechanics. instead of a standard pendulum with a weight swinging from side to side, you made one with a weight oscillating up and down.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2010, 07:16:03 PM »
Make it run and see how long it runs. I bet you it will stop eventually  ;) This is simple pendulum mechanics. instead of a standard pendulum with a weight swinging from side to side, you made one with a weight oscillating up and down.

You are clearly one of the pea-brains who does not know how to read or comprehend.

Pendulum? There is nothing in this like a pendulum. I'm sure the pea-brain club is glad to have you.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2010, 02:39:45 AM »
haha! brilliant answer :) just shows you know nothing about what you are actually building. Try reading up on pendulum mechanics and oscillating systems, and you will see what I mean.

What you have is a mass oscillating between two states (top and bottom) under the influence of gravity. hence the "pendulum" effect. Eventually the motion will die out due to friction.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2010, 06:18:32 AM »
....not to mention having a working model in wmd means it will work in real life............................

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2010, 09:28:54 PM »
Why would it "do it a little faster each time"? It is not supposed to go "faster each time". It turns slowly, the same speed every half rotation, stops, then the weight returns to the top, trips the release, and turns half a rotation. STOPS, then the weight returns to the top, trips the release, turns half a rotation. STOPS!!!!, then the weight returns to the top, ad infinitum.

Are you one of those speed freaks that thinks something needs to go fast to be effective?
Well if you are, then you will never make a working wheel because speed creates centrifugal force which is exactly what you DON'T want.
Centrifugal forces is also present on slow wheels, however much lower than a fast spinning wheel. But in return, a slow wheel isn't producing much. It is possible to beat the centrifugal forces at higher speeds, by using mechanical tension on the rotating parts that counterforce the centrifugal force.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2010, 05:19:51 PM »
I've been working on a design based on this idea for the past 6 months or so and should have a video ready within the next couple of weeks.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2010, 10:58:33 PM »
Hi ABhammer I saw your video it's very good and it seems to work. It looks like I once designed in the past with an off center in the middle.
I'm not claiming anything here but best regards for that it seems to work.
Thanks for the vid.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2010, 12:59:58 AM »
Hi ABhammer I saw your video it's very good and it seems to work. It looks like I once designed in the past with an off center in the middle.
I'm not claiming anything here but best regards for that it seems to work.
Thanks for the vid.

Thanks guruji

 But it didn't run. Even though the shifting worked it like so many designs it had to fight against to much weight below the 3 to 9 mark. The slide weight unit is a solid unit and what makes the slide work is what is important. And work not to create to much of a problem is the trick with this design. I have two newer shifting device designs to try and we will see. But this is a side project design I work with, for I have others as well.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2010, 01:57:15 PM »
@GraViTaR

Post the .wn2d file please?

Thanks in advanced  :)