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Author Topic: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!  (Read 28175 times)

Offline ruggero

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2009, 09:30:34 PM »
another solution is to let the whole set up flip on a horizontal axis.

yeah - maybe even start the rotation when the weight is lifted just over halfway up...?

ruggero  ;-)

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2009, 09:30:34 PM »

Offline noonespecial

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2009, 05:18:12 PM »
Hi Ruggero,

I like the way you think! :) In fact, this could make it into a runner easier than the original design.
Too bad your response got lost at the end of this thread. You should repost it on the other one.

Regards,
Charlie

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2009, 06:20:17 PM »
Hi Charlie,

which thread is that exactly?

Edit: OK, found it...
ruggero  ;)

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2009, 06:20:17 PM »
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Offline Flyboy

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2009, 08:51:21 AM »
I hope I'm wrong but I am figuring that the center of mass remains constant in this model.  Given the assumptions I used (sizes, amount, travel,  etc...) the short traveling weights (which are heavier) have an equal effect on the center of balance as the main weight with lots of travel... I'm really hoping someone will prove me wrong.  Reguardless, brilliant and simple design!  I love it!!!!

Offline Ken the Great

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2010, 06:13:53 AM »
This design will not work.

It is obvious that the length of travel in the center weight is more than the circumference of the smaller diameter discs with the weights attached.

Also what stops the discs with the weights from turning when not in contact with the center weight? 

What happens to the energy wasted when the weight hits the end of its travel?

I see no way this design can work.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2010, 06:13:53 AM »
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Offline mr_bojangles

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2010, 04:46:51 AM »
i have tried this before,

the reason it will not work is because the weight of those "rollers" have to be a slightly greater than the weight of the center weight

if you look, it would be the weight of one set of rollers versus two sets of rollers

that would mean one set of rollers plus the center weight, versus the weight of two rollers, and if the rollers are slightly heavier, that would mean it would still be bottom heavy

@ken, the circumference could be figured out to work but the weight ratio would screw it up

Offline GraViTaR

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 03:26:28 AM »
WOW! This is AWESOME!

I made a sim with some modifications on WM and IT WORKS!

I tilted the whole system so it starts at roughly a one o'clock/seven o'clock orientation and I used gear reduction to increase the lifting power of the rollers and it raises the center weight with NO PROBLEM!

I am trying to set up a locking and unlocking mechanism to complete the machine to run continuously.

This could generate electricity with simple gravity power, instead of those big, ugly windmills that are all over the countryside.

I've included a screen shot that shows what I'm talking about.

I wish the pea-brains around here would actually do a little creative thinking before knocking things they don't understand.

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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 03:26:28 AM »
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Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 04:50:32 AM »
Here is finally a solution to make a working gravity system that clearly violates NO LAWS of physics.

It is very self explanatory.

This picture is not to any certain scale. It is only to illustrate the general principle.

Pairs of rollers RELAY a weight from bottom to top. Each roller has a weight on the outside which acts to turn the roller to push the main weight up.

The now top heavy wheel turns 180° and the process starts all over again.

The biggest challenge to building this system will be synchronizing the rollers to lock and unlock in certain positions during the cycle.


I call this the RECIPROCAL TORQUE RELAY SYSTEM.

If you lift a 1 pound weight 1 meter off the ground equaling 1 newton of force then you will only get 1 newton of force if the object is released into free fall.

gravity only stores kinetic energy. what you put in is what you get out.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2010, 05:36:43 AM »
WOW! This is AWESOME!

I made a sim with some modifications on WM and IT WORKS!

I tilted the whole system so it starts at roughly a one o'clock/seven o'clock orientation and I used gear reduction to increase the lifting power of the rollers and it raises the center weight with NO PROBLEM!

I am trying to set up a locking and unlocking mechanism to complete the machine to run continuously.

This could generate electricity with simple gravity power, instead of those big, ugly windmills that are all over the countryside.

I've included a screen shot that shows what I'm talking about.

I wish the pea-brains around here would actually do a little creative thinking before knocking things they don't understand.

Hmm,
how should this work ?
Could you please explain it some more and post your WM2D file ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2010, 05:36:43 AM »
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Offline mr_bojangles

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2010, 04:59:50 AM »
i said this earlier,

each set of counterweights needs to be slightly heavier than the weight of the middle sliding weight

this means on each side you have (2) * (x) on each side, x= slightly (>) weight of sliding weight (number 5)

so once the sliding weight reaches the top, it now how to fight slightly more than twice the weight (3 and 4) of (5)

this also means weight set 2 is almost completely neutralized since it is so close to the axis

following this, weight set (3 and 4) are extended half the distance of the wheel (3) and the full distance (4)

because weight (5) is so long, the point of balance will be at the center, which would almost make it balance out 3 and 4, but because it is slightly less heavy, it will continue to be bottom heavy

weight set 1 will be outweighed by set 3, 2 will neutralize itself, and 4 will out weigh 5, because if it didn't, weight 5 would have no vertical movement to begin with

therefore, you can make weight 5 have vertical movement, but it will be top heavy if 5 weighs less

if 5 weighs the same as the rollers, it will be balanced and no vertical movement will occur

if 5 weighs more than the rollers, it will have no vertical movement and will become bottom heavy

edit::::::::::: to add pic

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2010, 12:20:10 AM »
Hmm,
how should this work ?
Could you please explain it some more and post your WM2D file ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

I've almost got it complete. I will let you know when it's done, Harti, then send you the file.

This is awesome! Free energy is here!

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2010, 12:20:10 AM »
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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2010, 01:57:00 AM »
This is still just a pendulum. No matter how complex you make the mechanics, its still just a "pendulum". You will have an oscillating system which will eventually come to rest, due to energy being dissipated as heat in all the joints of the wheels/lifters.

This setup is, energy-wise, no different from a piece of string with a weight attached at the end, and set to swing like a pendulum.

Offline GraViTaR

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2010, 02:23:09 AM »
YES! I GOT IT TO WORK IN A COMPLETE CYCLE!!

Harti, PM me so I can contact you directly.

This is it! We've got it!

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2010, 03:00:27 AM »
YES! I GOT IT TO WORK IN A COMPLETE CYCLE!!

Harti, PM me so I can contact you directly.

This is it! We've got it!

GraViTaR

 There have bee several of us who have wheels that run for awhile. Before you get to excited, see if it accelerates and then maintains speed after that, before you make the claim.

Alan 

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Re: AMAZING New Gravity Wheel Design!
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2010, 03:26:08 AM »
GraViTaR

 There have bee several of us who have wheels that run for awhile. Before you get to excited, see if it accelerates and then maintains speed after that, before you make the claim.

Alan

WTF? Does anyone on these forums know how to read? Wtf does acceleration have to with this wheel? Oh, if you actually READ this thread, you'd already know the answer.

 

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