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Author Topic: Magnetic Vortex Motor  (Read 30951 times)

Offline tagor

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2009, 10:25:33 AM »


yes this is yannicksonic !!
this is a con man

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2009, 01:27:08 PM »
No, of course it doesn't. It's just lateral movements of the ring on a moving holder, just like the silly ball and hand held magnet ring. They chase the ball around trying to keep it spinning, and thereby apply propulsion.  The string also winds up and releases.

No,
that is not the case in the last video URL I posted.
It seems to be working due to eddy currents.
It has nothing to do with the string !

Too bad that I am currently not at home,
where I have some magnets to try it.

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 01:33:54 PM »
Since from the start, the ring and the magnet already have stretched the rope, the rope untwisted outside the camera picture and therefore the ring AND the magnet are in rest. When he releases the ring, it get so much lighter and so see the ring turn in the other directing, since the rope is twisting again.

Eric.

Are you sure Eric ?

With what rope or string did you try it ?

Maybe you can again post a video with the thing hanging
on a static stand holder ?

Please use a non twisting fishing line or a small
copper wire or something like this.

Many thanks.

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2009, 01:33:54 PM »
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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2009, 01:39:47 PM »

Law of Unwinding Torsion Fibers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFGQArnNGIc


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Magnetic Vortex Motor = new scam
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2009, 02:10:26 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjmrQozyz3Y

Not mine, I just found it on YouTube.
/Eric

Hi All,

See also:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor

I just ended a duplication of this effect (which is real and funny) and here is the conclusion of my tests.
The suspending wire is a sewing thread. Such a thread is constituted by several strands wrapped around each other.
When the ring is attracted by the magnet, the tension of the thread makes the torsion of the strands to produce a torque that spins the ring.

This is confirmed by the following facts:

- when you attach a weight to the ring, simulating the same force as the magnet produced, the ring rotates without magnet (naturally not so quickly than with the magnet, due to the inertia of the weight attached to it)

- when you use a single strand, the ring doesn't spin over the magnet.

- it is not a question of current: when the ring is open, the ring still rotates (assuming a thread with multi-strands).

- it is not a question of magnetic field: the direction of the rotation doesn't depend on the orientation of the magnetic field but depends on the direction in which the strands are wrapped in the thread (clockwise in my case).

So it's not at all the way for FE. I have quickly debunked this scam of "Magnetic Vortex Motor" or "Swiss Ring Magnet Motor" (as called at Peswiki) because I am afraid it becames as time wasting as Mylows's story...  :-)


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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2009, 04:12:38 PM »
Without accompanying technical drawings and explanations, videos are worth
less than a chocolate teapot.

When are we going to understand this?

Look at the space and bandwidth wasted on the Mylow fiasco. Let us learn from
previous mistakes and save the valuable traffic allowances for stuff that matters.

Paul.

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2009, 05:46:57 PM »
Are you sure Eric ?

With what rope or string did you try it ?

Maybe you can again post a video with the thing hanging
on a static stand holder ?

Please use a non twisting fishing line or a small
copper wire or something like this.

Many thanks.



Stephan

without a doubt this scam does not work
eric try with a fishing line

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7363.msg179060#msg179060

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7363.msg179131#msg179131

all this craps are from the french-con-man-yannicksonic
if you have a lot of euros buy all this plans


how can you spend so many time on bullshit

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Offline tagor

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2009, 06:23:17 PM »
on mylow_magmo@yahoogroups.com

in response to

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>  does your being french have relevance to the claim that it is a scam?
>  that said, that video does not prove much. has there been any replication of that?
> bill keiser




no , the only relevance is :


I put the concept of this vortex on overunity.com a few month ago
I know PMI who project to produce this vortex on big scale
I am in contact with the builder of this vortex and I project to meet him

and I know very well the con man yannicksonic who is selling a lot of plan
I debunk this scam artist on numerous french forum

that's all


I think that sterling is playing with fire

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor = new scam
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2009, 07:17:53 AM »

See also:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/OS:Swiss_Ring_Magnet_Motor


The strange thing is that on that site, the video that is called "Ring Test 2" has the description: Proof of concept free energy with a magnet and a metal ring test.

Well, that video is taken in my workshop and the english translation of my Dutch comments says different things.
Eric.

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor = new scam
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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2009, 07:25:10 AM »
No,
that is not the case in the last video URL I posted.
It seems to be working due to eddy currents.
It has nothing to do with the string !
Ah, okay. Thanks. Perhaps a winner after all?

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2009, 07:26:11 AM »
I get what the guy was trying to show (suppsoedly) in the video with the circular setup, the ring is supposed to show some sort of vortex. The problem is, in the second video he holds it over the single pole of a neo magnet. That one certainly does not show any usable 'vortex'

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor = new scam
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2009, 08:10:55 AM »
The strange thing is that on that site, the video that is called "Ring Test 2" has the description: Proof of concept free energy with a magnet and a metal ring test.

Well, that video is taken in my workshop and the english translation of my Dutch comments says different things.
Eric.

yes yannickSUPERsonic is a con man

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2009, 08:14:40 AM »
I get what the guy was trying to show (suppsoedly) in the video with the circular setup, the ring is supposed to show some sort of vortex. The problem is, in the second video he holds it over the single pole of a neo magnet. That one certainly does not show any usable 'vortex'

did you bought this crap ?

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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2009, 09:55:25 AM »
did you bought this crap ?
The second video IS me, I have nothing to do with the other videos. I made the device and tested it on my workshop table. I also showed the same untwisting rope over a single magnet. That's what I explain in the clip.
I didn't bought the plans, I bought material for 200 US$. And I turned the part on my lathe.


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Re: Magnetic Vortex Motor
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2009, 02:04:37 PM »
   
Hi all,

Two other interesting video on the principle of vortex, N°1, N°2.
The inventor will sell Demonstrator in some time.
I will forward the information.

regards

 

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