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Author Topic: ElectraTherm creates fuel-free, BIG FRIDGE RUNS GENY  (Read 9932 times)


powercat

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Re: ElectraTherm creates fuel-free, BIG FRIDGE RUNS GENY
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2009, 04:10:35 PM »
Lowest heat requirement in the industry: 200º F
Flexible and scalable from 25kW-1MW

Ok there is a lot of power available to create the heat needed to run the unit [ maybe] ???

I think it might be possible to do this with a Cavitation Heater
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Cavitation_Heaters

any thoughts on this one
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powercat

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Re: ElectraTherm creates fuel-free, BIG FRIDGE RUNS GENY
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2009, 04:27:27 PM »
Two pictures taken from this link
http://www.electratherm.com/technology.html
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Re: ElectraTherm creates fuel-free, BIG FRIDGE RUNS GENY
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2009, 04:30:30 PM »
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mscoffman

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Re: ElectraTherm creates fuel-free, BIG FRIDGE RUNS GENY
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 05:10:57 PM »

It's a Carnot' Heat *Engine* built as a product. It's nice that you can buy it, but it has no
inherent overunity characteristics. Just relatively low input temperature requirements.

The problem with pairing it with Cavitation heater is that one would need to guarantee
overunity energy production in the heater to have it make sense. If the heater dropped
below unity, one would still get hot water or steam out, for example, but you would be
using all the input energy to produce it and get no returns. If you cut down on the output
flow rate the temperature would go up, but you would still be using all the input energy to
produce the output. So you would have to measure input horsepower as torque X RPM
and output fluid flowrate and delta temperature and calculate the energetic result. Then
you would need the heater manufacture to guarantee that there is an overunity energy
difference in the result, Think you can do that easily?

The reason this happens is there is never going to be a large heater gains because of
the low concentration of deuterium in natural water, just a small energy gain per stage of
heating. The Carnot heat engine requires a large input gain at low delta temperatures
because of it's physics. It would be hard to get a manufacture to guarantee a small gain
per stage heater.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: ElectraTherm creates fuel-free, BIG FRIDGE RUNS GENY
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 06:01:56 PM »
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you would need the heater manufacture to guarantee that there is an overunity energy
difference in the result, Think you can do that easily

Hi mscoffman
 No I don't think I could do that. manufacturers don't want to be associated with such claims
 the main reasoon that I posted this here is to show new ways of capturing energy
 maybe someone will see something to help them develop a new idea
 overunity needs all the help it can get

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