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Author Topic: Where the extra energy comes from according to the ECE Unified Field Theory  (Read 8170 times)

Offline AquariuZ

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Everything spins & There is no free energy, only abundant energy.

I will not lie to you: I have no clue what I am posting but that is ok.

There are so many knowledgable individuals on this forum that hopefully someone will appreciate the pointers.

I have just uploaded a paper by Prof. Myron W. Evans, co-author of the Einstein-Cartan-Evans (ECE) Unified Field Theory which I think (even with my limited knowledge) is relevant to this forum.

This paper explains the effects seen in the Bendini motor and where the "extra" energy comes from using the parameters of the ECE Theory. It is certainly not directed at the untrained eye.

I came across the ECE theory by checking out a Hungarian Company called Gamma Manager Kft in Budapest, who are producing commercial generators which use the ECE theory as a scientific basis.

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Abstract

Spin connection resonance (SCR) is used to explain theoretically why devices
in electrical engineering can use the properties of space-time to induce voltage.
Einstein Cartan Evans (ECE) theory has shown why classical electrodynamics
is a theory of general relativity in which covariant derivatives are used with the
spin connection playing a central role. These concepts are applied to a device
known as the Bedini machine.
Keywords: Spin connection resonance, electrodynamics in general relativity,
Einstein Cartan Evans theory, Bedini machine.

The paper on Bendini is available here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=tpmod;dl=get270

The ECE study site is here:
http://aias.us

The thread on Gamma Manager Kft and their EBM generators is here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7338.0

The Gamma Manager website is here:
http://gammamanager.com

The link between the EBM machines and the ECE Theory is made on their blog here:
http://gammamanager.blogspot.com/

I apologise for being a gnat buzzing in your ears, but I must insist that anyone with a scientific background at least glances at this.

My interpretation of all this data (it is not information because I do not fully grasp it all) is that when proven, it changes the foundations of physics as we know it.

Please discuss the mentioned ECE Bendini paper or ECE Theory in general if you can.

I am hoping to see the ECE Theory get its own section in here because it has a profound effect in understanding the "energy from the vacuum" effect as discussed by Tom Bearden and many others. I have just requested Stefan to open a discussion section for this theory.

AZ

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Offline Michelinho

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Hi AquariuZ,

Check also this one on negative energy by Hotson:

http://www.zeitlin.net/OpenSETI/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf

http://www.zeitlin.net/OpenSETI/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf

Take care,

Michel


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Hi AquariuZ,

Check also this one on negative energy by Hotson:

http://www.zeitlin.net/OpenSETI/Docs/HotsonPart1.pdf

http://www.zeitlin.net/OpenSETI/Docs/HotsonPart2.pdf

Take care,

Michel



This sounds like negative energy to me also, as you pointed out.  Loner is correct also in saying the negative and positive energy needs to be separated in order to have over unity.  This negative energy is responsible for cold electricity, while the positive energy is responsible for the hot electricity we are all familiar with.  The negative energy is located in the magnetic field in the middle of both poles which form a vortex and is said to be a negative time flux field, while the positive energy is the forward time field. Space time is, in a manner, short circuited.

I'm attaching a picture that explains it all, assuming it is correct.

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Offline Michelinho

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Hi gravityblock,

Throughout the 19th and early 20th century, negative energy has had many names and many researchers; Ed Leedskalnin's two opposing currents, Dr. Felix Ehrenhaft's magnetic currents, Tesla's radiant energy, Tom Bearden with energy from the vacuum, Hendershot, Morray, Sweet,  Bedini and dozen of others. What is funny, they all found out ways to get to this negative energy and all have in common ways of getting it without force (except for Bedini). When you start using force to get energy, you only get the positive energy by compressing or pushing against the negative energy and I believe that you get the negative energy by using expansion, putting it in motion in a way still unclear and letting it flow after. We may need to convert it somehow to see it flow but one thing is for sure, it surrounds us ready to be tapped in.

The TPU is a good example as you start the flow and it feeds itself (even to destruction if not controlled). Bedini seems to use the compression to set the expansion in motion but kills it soon after and start over again and again. Not efficient but it works somehow a little.

The search is on, the game is afoot.

Take care,

Michel

Offline khabe

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We can find huge lot of amazing things from Nature,
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2628499/super_chameleon/
Life itself  is amazing!
Have you met any perpetuum mobile in Nature? - No!  - emphasized for people who are still busy with gravity wheels and selfrunning waterwheels,
Overunities? - yes - at least very close to ... meny super efficent phenomenons like most of living beings, like birds ... or like the Man himself (normal Man I meant 8)
Real overunity, hopefully, will come when some still undiscovered source will be discovered in reality - not just in opuses of soi-disant academicians ;)
Some new type of radiation ... what ever. I do believe that this kind of new energy could not be fished with naive coils and capacitators even when added few semiconductors or vacuum tube ::)
Existing sources like Sun and Wind  are most common sources for Overunities for normal people today.
with due respect,
khabe

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Offline Michelinho

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Yes kahbe,

Life is amazing, it is art, it is colors, it is light, it is magnetic currents, it is life and it is pure beauty.

Negative energy feeds trees, plants, animals, men, planets and stars. It is everywhere. Take a picture of a tree and do a negative with it, place it upside down and you see a lightning bolt. Take a picture of a lightning bolt and do the same, you see a tree or a plant.

Positive energy is the energy of destruction and negative energy is the energy of life in all it's beauty. Touch it and it is benevolent, touch positive energy and get shocked. A common generator or alternator produces positive energy, a homopolar generator is much closer to negative energy.

A Stubblefield cell is a negative energy transformer but our life is so polluted with electromagnetic waves and radiations that making one work is something almost impossible in our "civilized" area. We have to get back in touch with nature. Tesla's wireless transmission sends a signal through air and the power through earth. An earth ground is where the power is, we need to tap that resource like the tree or the plant. We need harmony to make the process come to life.

Take care all,

Michel

P.S.: Great video of the Super Cameleon. Thanks kahbe.


Offline AquariuZ

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I Must admit, That is a great paper.   The math gets a little deep, for us that use it once in a
while, that is.  For those out there that derive all the time, I'm sure it's no problem.

To be frank, this is not new information.  It IS a great thing to have it getting out this way, but
the same type of info can be gleaned from the original Beardon site, though his math is even
more of a pain in the A** to follow.  (I can do it, but don't enjoy it anymore.  Bleah...)

I do like the methods used in the vector analysis as it really does pertain exactly to the
"Supposed" operation of several devices here.  It just so happens that I was re-reading
Floyd Sweet's paper called "Nothing is Something" and the two papers mesh quite well.

Now if this can be put into practical applications, as I"m not too sure of the methods that
were mentioned at the end.  Then again, if you took a Bedini  unit, put properly conditioned
magnets at the ends, excited them correctly, what do you have?  A VTA, of course.  If you
use this same concept in a torrid, properly resonated and contained, you could end up
with a TPU.  Use the same items in a motor.....  I think your correct in realizing the
importance of this, but I doubt there are large numbers of people that will read and fully
understand just HOW important the concepts are.  Also, and this is just an opinion, I
would like to see someone (I'll try, but that means nothing...) put the field interactions
into a physical reference so that the average joe can really grasp the relations that are
being discussed.  Then, the average builder could use the information, without having to
take several years of math and physics.  Basically, being able to seperate the ideals of
"Standard" electrical flow providing the Mag field, and this type of concept is where the
"Gold" is located.  Remember, Positive and Negative energy cancel, so devices must
keep those flows separate.  (If you read this carefully, that implication is also there.
Of course, that's not my info.  Thank Beardon and Sweet for that.  Also remember that
a "Wire" can have multiple flows intermingling if from separated sources.  From Tesla?)

Great Find.  Now to make use of this information.....


Thank you for considering this important and your input...

As you will understand there is large resistance in the established scientific community and Evans is practically being excommunicated from the scientific scene for persisting. The funny thing is that people like Noble Prize winner Gerard 't Hooft have spotted errors and will not accept ECE, REGARDLESS of the fact that several less known physicists in their turn have re-corrected van 't Hooft and others. We should respectfully call it the War of the Nerds..

As a layman I do not understand the mathematical foundation of the theory, but there is hope because a 52 minute documentary on the Evans theory should be released this year to give an overview of the ECE Unified Field Theory.

If anything, something that can be easily checked is the EBM device which claims to use this principle.

Someone from Turkey is going to do exactly that, that's all I can say.

Thanks again

AZ

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Offline AquariuZ

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@all thank you for the pointers to Hotson, I will take time to check these out.

It's all about Spin Connection Resonance (it seems)

And as M says:

The Game is afoot!

Offline AquariuZ

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Have you met any perpetuum mobile in Nature? - No! 

My friend, nature is FULL of perpetual motion...

From spinning electrons to spinning planets to spinning heads (well maybe not)

Everything spins.

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