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Author Topic: The ever elusive magnetic motor  (Read 21020 times)

Offline ramset

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2009, 05:24:56 PM »
Well...
Its 11;30 AM [1/2 hr,to go] here
Definitely rooting for you Bill !!

Chet

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Offline billmehess

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2009, 06:20:48 PM »
Outside the box approach is the only way to approach this problem.
First:       elimanate the influence of the gate
Second:   reengage the stator

I truely believe that a magnatic motor is possible, it is necessary to accept the possibility that a magnetic motor IS NOT a PMM. If one can accept this then all things are possible!

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2009, 06:30:12 PM »
Bill
Thank you for sharing,and I'm sure you know the next wall [lifting the stator ].
Outside the box is cool!!
I'm watching with great anticipation
Chet

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Offline The Ronin

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2009, 09:41:53 PM »
Bill,

I've been watching your videos with great interest and admire your approach to the problem. I, too, think it's possible for a magnetic motor to work, and after seeing your latest video I think you're on to a possible solution.

I don't know if this would work, but I'm throwing it out there to see if it helps.

Surely the easiest way to re-engage the stator is to lengthen the housing the 'stator block' is put into and fit a wooden shelf to the bottom. Make the housing deep enough so the stator block doesn't repel the top magnets in it's magnetic gate when it sits on the shelf, but obviously doesn't come down so low as to hit the bottom 'repulsion magnet' as it turns. When the bottom repulsion magnet comes around, it should repel the stator block back to where it was resting at the start, just in time to push the wheel again (and then drop back down on to the shelf).

You might have to reposition the bottom repulsion magnet slightly to compensate for the speed of the wheel turning, or the 'run up', or you might have to use 2 magnets - one magnet which is moved away at the start (to hold up the stator block) and another one that is fixed slightly off from where the first magnet was. You may even need a few more magnets before and/or after the main repulsion magnet so the stator block jumps up just in time to give the top magnets a push.

If it does work, another thought was you might have work on the stator housing so there's less friction, or maybe even slow it down a little with something like cupboard draw bracket rollers. Also, the speed at which the stator block jumps up at might be a bit violent, so you might need to fit a stopper above it.

Please keep us updated with your endeavours and I wish you the best of luck.

Offline billmehess

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2009, 10:18:34 PM »
Thank you for your input lots of good ideas here. The answer will be a unique way of manipulating
the stator in and out of the rotor path. The key phrase is in and out.
Again think outside of the box is the key.

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Offline Dusty

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2009, 10:38:58 PM »
Bill.

An idea:  When the stator drops, have another large repulsion magnet down below.  Will the secondary repulsion be enough for the stator to rise to some kind of a latch, which will prepare it for the next transaction?

Dusty

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2009, 11:46:59 PM »
Not really there will be just a very slight bounce, but keep those creative jucies flowing.

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Offline ramset

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2009, 12:08:34 AM »
Bill
Dusty
You fellows have been trying very hard to get things to work
 you may have heard  a few weeks ago I met with a fellow who filed a patent app
for a mag motor
I mentioned he had a levitation disc ,a 12 inch circle cut in a piece of 1/4 inch plywood, in the circle was a 11inch [approx] plastic disc hovering in the field
he claimed people could stand on this Disc and not free it from the field

That part I said in a post and yes I held it in my hand [not heavy}
This part I did not say
 It was partially disassembled [missing mags that had come out of the glue over time]but still hovering ,only to one side

It just occurred to me what I had in my hand
The disc was STUCK to one side [attraction] because the mags on the other side[that used to pull it back and center it] were missing
Dusty,
 Have you ever done this?
It was claimed to be the BIG piece of a motor concept
 Before I replicate this [Quite simple concept]
Will it be easier to turn/spin ,floating in attraction
Is it possible that when he says magnets can shield themselves.
He meant, in a field like this??

Did I describe this well enough for you to know what the hell I'm talking about?
Chet
PS
 in the motor, he said this same disc would be hovering about 4 inches
PPS
I don't want to waste anybody's time ,as this seems quite simple[but a LOT of magnets] so if you know this to be a dead end please comment


Offline billmehess

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2009, 06:50:32 AM »
Ramset
Are you saying he had a plastic disk magnetically suspended over a magnetic field?

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Offline ramset

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2009, 04:00:05 PM »
Bill
It was a plastic disc[maqgs all around the outside]
Placed in side of a plywood frame [with mags all around this hole]
all mags were in attraction  suspending the disc perfectly
My question was has anybody else done this ?
Simple concept hard to do
Chet



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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2009, 04:22:29 PM »
OK
I see this is looking alot harder than it is
Mental picture,
 take a frisby lay it on a piece of 1/4 inch plywood
trace the outline of the frisby  addng 3/8 of an inch all the way around
cut out the hole put the frisby back in the hole you should have 3/8 gap all the way around
Take a roll of pennies put them all around the outside edge of the frisby, flat on the top outside edge then put them all around the hole[flat on the top edge closest to the frisby]replace pennies with mags  put them allnorth on the frisby allsouth in the hole
YOU HAVE SUSPENTION IN ATTRACTION
Of course the frisbee should be wood [so you can draw laytout lines from one side to the other so you know your mags are balanced]and the mags I saw were1/2 inch round by 1/2 inch tall cylinders
Chet

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2009, 04:42:35 PM »
This has been done many times, a smaller disk with mags around its circumference placed slightly into a "valley" of another disk with mags each mag of like (+ to +) or (- to -) will hover suspended.
I did this once using a small funnel covered with mags sitting inside a larger funnel with mags.
Look at the Hammal spinner for the same idea .

Offline ramset

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2009, 05:00:35 PM »
Bill
Thanks, just for clarity you could flip this disc upside down and sideways and not remove the disc from the hole .
He said it would hold the weight of a person!![right side up or upside down]
Thanks for the explanation I don't want to waste any ones time doing a dead end
Chet

 

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