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Author Topic: The ever elusive magnetic motor  (Read 21022 times)

Offline billmehess

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The ever elusive magnetic motor
« on: April 23, 2009, 04:49:31 AM »
Here is my forth video in the hunt for a working magnetic motor. It's a work in progress. I have constructed a device on there stacked plates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4uhcMW5jFs&layer_token=1ec8ee2d878f631

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The ever elusive magnetic motor
« on: April 23, 2009, 04:49:31 AM »

Offline Ergo

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 07:59:32 AM »
What ever happened to your old attempt?
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=919.msg6407#msg6407
How did it finally turn out.

Offline 4Tesla

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 09:08:31 AM »
Nice build!  What if the armature magnets are spread out instead of in a straight row on the one side?

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 09:08:31 AM »
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Offline d3adp00l

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 09:17:17 AM »
Try looking into what the fields are doing in an electric motor, since they actually work. There is infact a few concepts which allow them to work, then think of a way to recreate those effects in a perm magnet. Keep bouncing them around.

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2009, 10:18:10 PM »
Here is my forth video in the hunt for a working magnetic motor. It's a work in progress. I have constructed a device on there stacked plates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4uhcMW5jFs&layer_token=1ec8ee2d878f631

Good job Bill. :) Here is a armchair quarterback question, What happens when all three magnet groups are placed in the same vertical column? Does the rotor assembly have 3 times the acceleration when placed in the "sweet spot" and then released?

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2009, 10:18:10 PM »
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Offline billmehess

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 03:12:03 AM »
No same speed. Even though there should be an increase in speed I'm sure this is compensated for by having to move 3 plates and running into the three magnetic entrance gates. The device works best in the combination I have it in. Again what interests me is the spin back under power. But I have noticed that the magnets must be aligned perfectly and in a little different pattern to make this happen.
Also under this configuration the magnets approach the gate much closer than when operating on a single plane.
Notice I use wood plates, I do not think that eddy currents which would result from using aluminum against the stator is desirable. Maybe they would be so small and not make a difference but...
The forward motion of the device and the spin back under power covers a distance more than the circumference of the plate.
I am seeing lots of different things happening when I play with the unit as opposed to a single plate method.

Offline billmehess

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor 5th video
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 02:07:40 AM »
Here is my 5th video, I have added a 4th plate which has given me some extra speed.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBh0c7jAELM&layer_token=209e053b214f72

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor 5th video
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2009, 02:07:40 AM »
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Offline Ergo

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2009, 07:22:06 PM »
Lack of speed you mean.
I see no continues movement!!!!

Offline Doug1

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2009, 03:34:21 PM »
 Good attempt Bill.
  As I was putt'sng around drinking my coffee a thought passed by while examining some of these "radio shack magnets" If a motor were to work I would think it would torq up pretty quick not slowly and even more so if the rotor magnets were on the outside of rotating part be it a wheel or what ever. The leverage based on the distance from the center shaft would have to almost lead to it reaching it's physical limit almost instantly.
 Plus that would make it hard to stop if not impossible with out some measure of damage.
 I just cant picture it ramping up slowly if it is going to work. There would likely be as many issues with it pushing a load since that would effect the timing when each stator begins to interact with the rotor magnets.It could result in a stall out if there was enough friction to prevent the next set of interactions in sequence to start before the drag causes it to stop even if you do get it to turn.Designs have to work past just simply going round so if someone does get lucky it will serve a purpose other then fodder for arguments.
  The fun in this trip is not in reaching the destination but the travel to get there which eludes the rigid scientific mind. lol Hay that's pretty profound where did that come from?

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
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Offline 0c

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor 5th video
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2009, 04:05:34 PM »
Here is my 5th video, I have added a 4th plate which has given me some extra speed.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBh0c7jAELM&layer_token=209e053b214f72

I like your approach. I wonder if something like this might work for WhipMag?

Offline Doug1

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 06:42:40 PM »
Damn! Not a single magnet left in a 1 hour drive that resembles the radio shack ones. Are that many people who were suckered into the mylow thing or did it just spark a lot of child hood dreams in people.Last week there were 30 on the shelf at just one place.
  Oh well have to wait for restock. 10 away from completing my version. Should I speculate the guys over at Black light are buying them all up ha ha ha Princeton rejects stay on your side of rt 537 with all the old people.
 

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2009, 06:42:40 PM »
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Offline billmehess

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2009, 09:01:35 PM »
If there is any chance at all for a magnetic motor to actually be functional it will only be when a method has been discovered to alter the position(s) of the stator.
The most common method has been to do this by mech. means. The problem here is that there is so little real torque to work with that a lever of some sort simply will not move the stator to it's desired position. I am sure Rick of "pipe dreams" fame is finding this out.
I have come up with a way to move the stator that will have very little  torque on the rotor magnets. Unfortunately at this time it is a one shot approach and will move the stator completely out of the way of the final gate influence and allow the rotor assembly to make 1.5 to 2.0 complete revolutions only one time before it spins down. 

The important thing here is that this is being done entirely with permanent magnets. In other words there is nothing being done to the system other than positioning the stator in relationship to the rotor assembly and letting go.
I will post a youtube as soon as I rebuild the device into a more presentable platform (should take me just a couple of days).
The exercise has been to get more than one plus legit. revolution using only magnets. Hopefully further work can take this concept further.
Stay tuned.
Bill
« Last Edit: June 14, 2009, 10:13:06 PM by billmehess »

Offline billmehess

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2009, 04:48:38 AM »
Just finished up the next step towards a working magnetic motor. I will post the video June 18, Thrus. 9am pacific standard time USA.
The motor will start with a stator turning a platfrom with 12 magnets. The stator will drop down
before it comes to the last magnet. The rotor platfrom will continue on for 1.5 to 2+  revolutions before coming to a stop.
This was an exercise to see if it was possible under any conditions using only magnets to achieve at least one+ legit revolution.
Also since the rotor does not have the magnetic gate to get through I can finally see how far the rotor platform will turn on it's own
I do not claim overunity or a working magnetic motor at this point because the next step will be
reengage the stator to the rotor platform so that hopefully additional revolutions may be possible.
At least at this point where there is 1+ revolution there could be more.
You will see 150% to 200%+  revolutions again using only permanent magnets in the am. This video will be on youtube under excel60 with the other 4 videos showing the work I have been doing.
Bill
« Last Edit: June 18, 2009, 05:19:12 AM by billmehess »

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2009, 06:11:54 AM »
Looking forward to it Bill.

Offline Ergo

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Re: The ever elusive magnetic motor
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2009, 05:13:22 PM »
I'd bet almost anything that it won't work.
It's simply not possible to balance a pure magnet motor into action.
The forces will simply equalize on each revolution.

But good luck just for the sake of it.

 

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