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Author Topic: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??  (Read 10501 times)

Offline Paul-R

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Re: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2009, 03:46:49 PM »
Thanks for sharing the colored electrical tape idea for marking polarity!  I agree with Low-Q.. one gate should be enough.  I would try 5 arms on the stator instead of 3.
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There is a possibility that a motor will work at a CERTAIN  rotational speed, but
NOT at a speed greater than or less than that critical speed.

i.e. if a device is externally speeded up, it might suddenly starty working.

The number of arms or gates might affect that speed.

Paul.

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Re: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??
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Re: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2009, 01:21:42 AM »
There is a possibility that a motor will work at a CERTAIN  rotational speed, but
NOT at a speed greater than or less than that critical speed.

i.e. if a device is externally speeded up, it might suddenly starty working.

The number of arms or gates might affect that speed.

Paul.

Hi Paul,

I found out you are perfectly right about that. So far by using the same iron rod magnet device I described the best setup is the LIGHTEST iron rotor flywheel you can make with SHORT runner magnet arms.

Still have to use the 1.25 inch diameter bearing balls at ends of runner arms.  I went from a 9 pound rotor to a cast iron 2.5 inch diameter caster wheel.  Lot better action.  I see the need for 4 equally spaced iron rod devices around the rotor runners.  Inexpensive to build and a lot of fun to play with.  Magnetically its very sensitive.  With the iron wheel as the rotor flywheel many different magnetic runner arm ideas can be tried out in a few seconds.  2 arms, 3 arms, 4?  take your pick. Stick them on--pop them off.

No self runner yet.

Surely someone playing with it can come up with the exact right combination of magnets, spacing, ect, ???

Tom

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Re: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2009, 04:24:03 PM »
Not meant as a break but I feel I have to say this:
As long as you work with conservatism, there will not be any potential difference in the system that will make the motor work. No matter how the magnet/steel/bearing combinations are. All forces are related to eachother and weights up for any positive or negative force - simply because all the forces you work with do all work within the same system. How can this be so hard to understand? I understand however, the enthusiasm, and the thrill related to magnetism, but magnetism, as it is only a permanent potential energy sourche, it will never do work - as this potential does not change. You must loose magnetism over time to make it work, and that is not what we want either.

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Re: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2009, 04:34:09 PM »
I was guessing if it didn't work with 3, maybe it was because the space was too wide between arms.
You mean to reduce cogging? That should not be an issue anyway. If there is energy to spare, it does not matter if you have 1 or more stators. If you look pass eddy currents and friction, a magnetic rotor, will spin as freely as any other wheel. The difference is the unlinear motion you have with magnets, and the pendulum effect you see when the inertia isn't enough to pass by the magnets at the very end of the rotation - as you see in most of the magnet-wheel videos on youtube.

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Re: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2009, 01:06:41 AM »
In the FEG 5-45 you find the Floyd Sweet VTA. 
He claims that certain types of magnets resonate at a certain frequency,
and says that frequency can be reprogrammed.
This was the basis of his VTA, he reprogrammed the magnet to resonate at 60 Hz.
Then he tapped 60 Hz power from it and ran regular household appliances with it.
He also stated that at certain times the device wouldn't work at all, indicating that the
magnet was tapping into a source of energy from space,
and the position of the earth, moon, and sun had something to do with it. 
If this is true and magnets do resonate at a certain frequency it would explain why some people have
got magnetic motors to work and yet no one else seems to be able to repeat it.
If we could learn how Floyd reprogrammed the magnets we could tap into the energy in different ways.
Floyd would place a new magnet into a large coil he built and would determine the frequency it resonated at.
Then he would reprogram it to a new frequency. 
Even if we could figure out how to measure a magnets frequency we could design a system around it.
The one in his video demo was resonating at 12.5 Hz. when he measured it and then he did the reprogramming.
He stated that only certain types of magnets could be used for this.
Here is the video SWEET! ;D :

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2973947177397458172&ei=mVDuScHDLqCI-gGNuoyCBA&q=Floyd+Sweet+VTA&hl=en

The programming process starts 32 min. into the video.



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Re: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2009, 02:54:44 PM »
In the FEG 5-45 you find the Floyd Sweet VTA. 
He claims that certain types of magnets resonate at a certain frequency,
and says that frequency can be reprogrammed.
This was the basis of his VTA, he reprogrammed the magnet to resonate at 60 Hz.
Then he tapped 60 Hz power from it and ran regular household appliances with it.
He also stated that at certain times the device wouldn't work at all, indicating that the
magnet was tapping into a source of energy from space,
and the position of the earth, moon, and sun had something to do with it. 
If this is true and magnets do resonate at a certain frequency it would explain why some people have
got magnetic motors to work and yet no one else seems to be able to repeat it.
If we could learn how Floyd reprogrammed the magnets we could tap into the energy in different ways.
Floyd would place a new magnet into a large coil he built and would determine the frequency it resonated at.
Then he would reprogram it to a new frequency. 
Even if we could figure out how to measure a magnets frequency we could design a system around it.
The one in his video demo was resonating at 12.5 Hz. when he measured it and then he did the reprogramming.
He stated that only certain types of magnets could be used for this.
Here is the video SWEET! ;D :

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2973947177397458172&ei=mVDuScHDLqCI-gGNuoyCBA&q=Floyd+Sweet+VTA&hl=en

The programming process starts 32 min. into the video.



A resonance system is depending on constant properties of the objects included in the system, in order to sustain the oscillation. If you load it, it will limit the oscillation amplitude and lower the resonance frequency. Try to put a regular pendulum in water, and see what happens. The load the pendulum feel in water will not only break the oscillation, but also alter the resonance frequency to a lower frequency. A oscillating magnet must be something like an electromagnet that is connected to a capacitor. You can have quite small input, but there is high currents flowing through each component. There is however no way such system can run a household alone, as any load will limit the phase delay between the components, and therefor the energy output will collapse immediately.

Convincing speach will not proove OU. And the space energy that this magnets utilize is pure BS, seen from my point of view.

Vidar

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Re: MAGNETIC GATE --- Possibly the best yet??
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2009, 04:54:45 PM »
Why would one like to re-program magnets resonance frequency?
I would think that any resonance frequency could be used here, even 12.5 Hz.
Lightbulbs easily work on that frequency as well.

Or is this about tapping wireless from the 110V grid?
« Last Edit: April 22, 2009, 08:18:35 PM by robbie47 »

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