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Author Topic: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???  (Read 5999 times)

Offline FreeEnergy

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Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
« on: April 18, 2009, 01:31:24 PM »
Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp and fall in to another same type of ramp to continue its movement in a looped fashion????????????

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Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
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Offline broli

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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2009, 02:23:13 PM »
Like this one?  ;D;

http://www.chem.unsw.edu.au/staff/hibbert/perpetual/Freelnch_files/magnet-machine.jpg

I would they just put a V-track on the ramp and no track on the falling side. One must try to have the hole before the V-track ends.

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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2009, 10:49:32 PM »

no not like that but like this...see drawing attachment. the drawing you showed is just a regular smot ramp which is nothing like a tri gate. a smot don't have a neutral point.




the red circle is the roller magnet.

the blue lines is the tri gate magnetic track.

the black lines are non-magnetic


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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
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Offline Ergo

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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2009, 11:21:11 PM »
As far as I know it's possible but as soon as you close the loop into circular it stops working.

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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 12:17:01 AM »
Hi,

A normal SMOT is able to work through several ramps, see this link for 3 consecutive ramps:

http://www.gnucash.org/mirrors/mirrors/jnaudin.free.fr/html/3smtlnk.htm   (here the video in the bottom still works)

Original Naudin pages are here on SMOT: http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/smotidx.htm

Re on the tri gate:  I have seen at least one video on youtube where the roller went up a small inclination ramp (about 5 degree) but obviously the tri gate has no as strong force for acceleration like a SMOT has,  though the strength of the magnets surely influence this.

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 04:57:22 AM »
As far as I know it's possible but as soon as you close the loop into circular it stops working.


the only reason why it would not work is because the magnetic field of the  ramp interacts with the next ramp. so closing the loop would be impossible.

in my drawing there is no magnetic interaction between the ramps because of the incline of the ramp so it stays far away from each other not affecting a closed loop.

@gyulasun
now come to think of it i think a regular smot should work too but it would have to be a little different arrangement than the picture you posted, because when you close the loop it wont work because the magnetic ramps are interacting its magnetic fields . BUT i have something different in which i will post a drawing of it later. the way that im thinking of closing the loop shouldn't be a problem. its also very simple design.

Offline Ergo

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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2009, 02:32:00 PM »
in my drawing there is no magnetic interaction between the ramps because of the incline of the ramp so it stays far away from each other not affecting a closed loop.

There's always interaction and this is why nobody have been able to close the loop yet.
Your drawing and imagination of a working smot is so simple.
Don't you think anyone before you have already thought of this and tried it.
Ohh yes, they have. Repetedly of times and no one have ever been successful in looping a smot.
No matter how they tried to arrange the magnets and slopes, they were never successful.

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Re: Can a TRI GATE go up a ramp???
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