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Author Topic: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)  (Read 21327 times)

Offline g4macdad

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The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« on: April 19, 2009, 12:25:56 AM »
Currently the only thing stopping you from getting $.02 a mile electric vehicles, are state laws. Most likely your state does not currently allow you to register a legitimate plug-in Electric car.

Electricity is currently the cleanest way to power our vehicles.

Hydrogen is produced and distributed by oil companies to keep you "pumping" price controlled fuel.

Hydrogen is produced using electricity and after you get it into your vehicle, it cost more money and has a far greater negative impact on the environment than plug-ins.

We all need to take political action for this to change.

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Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 12:33:12 AM »

I have read that the recharge process needed for electric cars is just as expensive as gas when you get your electric bill.

That would mean you are no farther aahead if true.

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Offline g4macdad

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 01:02:09 AM »
I have read that the recharge process needed for electric cars is just as expensive as gas when you get your electric bill.

That would mean you are no farther aahead if true.

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This is a fox news style reply "some say" and it is utter bologna. Where and who said such a thing?

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 01:02:09 AM »
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Offline broli

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 01:24:11 AM »
Isn't this a bit too obvious? It never has been something technically. Somewhere some guy wanted mooooore money. Greed and corruption is what is leaving us in the stone age. The biggest case in history must be of nikola tesla. We would be casually space traveling if it wasn't for the greed and corruption of a few. Politics is a joke. It's just a mix of a monarchy and a very convincing puppet show.

I'm waiting for the day people realize this and sentence these bastards. But I guess most people are too busy working like sheep in McDonald's or some factory.

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Offline g4macdad

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 01:42:42 AM »
Isn't this a bit too obvious? It never has been something technically. Somewhere some guy wanted mooooore money. Greed and corruption is what is leaving us in the stone age. The biggest case in history must be of nikola tesla. We would be casually space traveling if it wasn't for the greed and corruption of a few. Politics is a joke. It's just a mix of a monarchy and a very convincing puppet show.

I'm waiting for the day people realize this and sentence these bastards. But I guess most people are too busy working like sheep in McDonald's or some factory.

The law was put in place by someone's actions. People sitting and waiting for "the day people realize" is why they are winning. The "bastards" aren't waiting and that is why these laws exist.

Violent revolutionary action is not the answer.

They don't want you to know our system WORKS. They know it works and they are taking great advantage of it.

Wake up and be a great country again. Not a bunch of whining suckers.

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 01:42:42 AM »
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Offline d3adp00l

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 01:45:47 AM »
Well lets compare the two then.

car 20mpg (yes I am aware that some get better but not all that many standard cars do)

2.50 / 20 = cost per mile 12.5 cents and at 60 miles per hour thats 12.5 cents per minute
or 12.5 x 60 = 7.50 per hour

At 60 mph it takes around 18650 watts to move it. So thats 18.65 Kw every hour, so 18.65kwhr. The electrical system is about 90% eff, so 18.65/.9 = 20.722kwhr battery power, charging batteries is around 90% eff, so 20.722/ .9= 23 KWHRs to charge

I pay around 20 cents a kwhr, so .20 x 23 = 4.60 dollars per hour
or 7.6 cents per mile

So your claim is refuted, and it is in fact cheaper, and better for the environment to drive electric. next time don't believe what you read, analyze it.

Next are state laws stopping electric cars? NO they aren't plenty of people have them and register them in fact in california when filing out docs, there is a place to check electric as fuel source.

So what is stopping electric cars? imho WE ARE.

We say we want electric but then everyone complains about worrying about the range,
We say we want electrics, but only if they give us exactly what we have now, instead of accepting them as they are and making the industry give us better results at their whim.

WE ARE because we can make them ourselves and don't. We are because some of us have the ability to make controllers and sell them at reasonable prices to eachother and we don't.

We are because those of us with the money to do the conversion don't we go finance new cars instead of rebuilding the old one.

I am not much better and include myself in the WE, but I am working on become not part of that, and if I didn't get kicked in the financial teeth at every turn I wouldn't still be a part of that WE.

How to change it, start doing it!.

Offline broli

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2009, 01:46:51 AM »
The time of "being a great country" is long overdue. We need to be a great species. There are two answers violent revolutions or independent technological advancement. You can choose which one I picked. What do you think you will achieve by mere words?

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
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Offline g4macdad

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2009, 01:52:18 AM »
Well lets compare the two then.

car 20mpg (yes I am aware that some get better but not all that many standard cars do)

2.50 / 20 = cost per mile 12.5 cents and at 60 miles per hour thats 12.5 cents per minute
or 12.5 x 60 = 7.50 per hour

At 60 mph it takes around 18650 watts to move it. So thats 18.65 Kw every hour, so 18.65kwhr. The electrical system is about 90% eff, so 18.65/.9 = 20.722kwhr battery power, charging batteries is around 90% eff, so 20.722/ .9= 23 KWHRs to charge

I pay around 20 cents a kwhr, so .20 x 23 = 4.60 dollars per hour
or 7.6 cents per mile

So your claim is refuted, and it is in fact cheaper, and better for the environment to drive electric. next time don't believe what you read, analyze it.

Next are state laws stopping electric cars? NO they aren't plenty of people have them and register them in fact in california when filing out docs, there is a place to check electric as fuel source.

So what is stopping electric cars? imho WE ARE.

We say we want electric but then everyone complains about worrying about the range,
We say we want electrics, but only if they give us exactly what we have now, instead of accepting them as they are and making the industry give us better results at their whim.

WE ARE because we can make them ourselves and don't. We are because some of us have the ability to make controllers and sell them at reasonable prices to eachother and we don't.

We are because those of us with the money to do the conversion don't we go finance new cars instead of rebuilding the old one.

I am not much better and include myself in the WE, but I am working on become not part of that, and if I didn't get kicked in the financial teeth at every turn I wouldn't still be a part of that WE.

How to change it, start doing it!.


I agree with you 90%.

My state law is exactly what is stopping me.

Most states are similar to mine but mine is by far the worst. I cannot register an electric car that exceeds 20 mph in Ohio.

There are plenty of options for buying electric cars for us RIGHT NOW. State laws are the number one reason this is not possible.

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 01:59:16 AM »


I'm not sure where it was g4macdad...it may come to me or I may run across it again...it made me stop and think though...and it is something I did not consider.

If true, it would be burdensome to have to stop and charge frequently...I guess it would be ok for people with bladder issues, as they have to stop frequently anyway. :)

So, until we can come up with a way to get over that hump they may be relegated to last resort status.

Regards...


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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 01:59:16 AM »
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Offline g4macdad

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 02:04:10 AM »

I'm not sure where it was g4macdad...it may come to me or I may run across it again...it made me stop and think though...and it is something I did not consider.

If true, it would be burdensome to have to stop and charge frequently...I guess it would be ok for people with bladder issues, as they have to stop frequently anyway. :)

So, until we can come up with a way to get over that hump they may be relegated to last resort status.

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I can assure you it is not true.

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 02:07:31 AM »

I missed your post d3adp00l.

The information was that it takes 30 hrs to recharge those battery's.

20 miles a gallion. :)...do  those Rolls Royce's ride really smooth ?

Regards...


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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 02:07:31 AM »
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Offline g4macdad

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2009, 02:19:45 AM »
I missed your post d3adp00l.

The information was that it takes 30 hrs to recharge those battery's.

20 miles a gallion. :)...do  those Rolls Royce's ride really smooth ?

Regards...



Dude!

Stop posting nonsense! >:(

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Offline IotaYodi

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2009, 02:24:37 AM »
Thats basically untrue. Its just low speed vehicles. These cars shouldnt be allowed in any state in my opinion. Just another accident waiting to happen. Some of these cars have a top speed of 25 to 30 miles an hour. They are useless even in a 45 mph zone. If they could be tracked and shut down when they travel on a street thats more than 5 mph above their speed limit I could go for that.
All 3 wheel vehicles should be banned too.

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2009, 02:26:47 AM »

I mentioned some information I had either watched or read...you asked me a question...I answered.

I made a legitimate comment regarding to the charging time to another member.

While I await a response, you intercede with disrespectful comment.

What is this nonsense are you referring to ?

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Offline g4macdad

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Re: The only thing holding back EV's (not technology)
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2009, 02:47:18 AM »
Thats basically untrue. Its just low speed vehicles. These cars shouldnt be allowed in any state in my opinion. Just another accident waiting to happen. Some of these cars have a top speed of 25 to 30 miles an hour. They are useless even in a 45 mph zone. If they could be tracked and shut down when they travel on a street thats more than 5 mph above their speed limit I could go for that.

LOL

People like you are the REAL reason the country is a mess.

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