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Offline Grumpy

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2009, 04:23:10 PM »
only gravity deflects it

@Otto

If the problem is common EM fields then a simple Faraday cage will help. Just make sure all seems are good electrical connections and the cage is well Earthed.

Should the problem be the other way put solid mass between you and the TPU. The more solid and thicker the better. Distance helps a bit here, as well.

I don't know what your TPU could be radiating but you should check all possibilities before long. If you awake with white spots in your vision, headaches, nausea, etc. You should stop and fix the problem.

Repeated small EMP can also cause confusion and lethargy. Don't let it go that far.

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2009, 09:42:02 PM »
only gravity deflects it
Maybe it is a good thing but I can't agree with you until my 'Black Hole In MY Basement' project works  ::)  Maybe CERN will figure this out.

Until then, mass (very dense or lots of it) does a good job.

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2009, 10:54:17 PM »
Hello all,

@BEP

I dont have magnetic fields inside my TPU. The particles spreaded out of the transformers are my problem but as Im now good in my job there are not anymore so much particles leaving the TPU transformers and so my health is much better.

Thanks anyway.

Otto

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2009, 11:19:46 PM »
Hello all,

@BEP

I dont have magnetic fields inside my TPU. The particles spreaded out of the transformers are my problem but as Im now good in my job there are not anymore so much particles leaving the TPU transformers and so my health is much better.

Thanks anyway.

Otto

Glad to hear your feeling better! I hope you are having good results and much excitement :)

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2009, 06:19:24 PM »
sì bene se stiamo andando parlare tutte le lingue differenti nello stesso filetto, come il della MACEDONIA CD, quindi voi può essere it' sicuro; s che va essere un grande disordine!

Marcos.

Grazie, grazie, grazie!
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شكرا لك
谢谢您
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In het geval ik iemand gemist

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Ank-thay ou-Yay! for those that have swine flu.

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2009, 07:02:43 PM »
Until then, mass (very dense or lots of it) does a good job.

and/or distance...

I expect it will be more well-behaved once the current loop is formed.


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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #36 on: May 05, 2009, 12:16:24 AM »
HI
@GK  falemenderi  is in the <albanian  people  >not macedonia

@marco find how to  write in macedonia but
ok  you are have  short brain to anderstend macedonia languege
  and you show that you dont know to READ  in languege of  tesla main  country where is born
  LEARN  AND MAYBE WHILL KNOW  BETER TO ANDERSTEND WHAT TESLA SAY ;D 
ISEE NOW  YOU NEED SOME  SHORT VIDEO  FROM ME   TO SEE AND  LEARN SOME STUFF  @marco



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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #37 on: May 05, 2009, 02:07:52 AM »
only gravity deflects it

Yes, it might be very useful and interesting to have a well shielded and filtered scalar detector running on the bench of any TPU experiment.

I think the Hodowanek detector  is the simplest type to build:

http://www.amasci.com/freenrg/grav3.txt

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2009, 12:59:14 PM »
hi everyone good day!!!

i'm back ;D

i just want you to know that i found something old in my vicinity.

i notice the high tension wire is connected in one pole of the transformer and the other one pole of the transformer is connected into the earth ground  ??? and it gives 220v! wow and unlimited connection of transformer is available in the high tension wire, i think this is one secret of tpu?

i'm telling the truth please observe.

case closed!  8)

God bless otits


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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2009, 02:57:35 AM »
hi everyone good day!!!

i'm back ;D

i just want you to know that i found something old in my vicinity.

i notice the high tension wire is connected in one pole of the transformer and the other one pole of the transformer is connected into the earth ground  ??? and it gives 220v! wow and unlimited connection of transformer is available in the high tension wire, i think this is one secret of tpu?

i'm telling the truth please observe.

case closed!  8)

God bless otits

Tito,

Nothing is impossible, it just has not been discovered yet (by some).  If you don't believe that SM did anything but steal power from the lines, then you are wasting your time and everyone else's. 

Try reading the engineering reports.  The TPU was/is real.

AT EVERYONE ELSE,

Steven Mark gave every detail of how to build this in the PDF that Lindsay had put together.

The truth is, no one wants to build a working TPU.  They are either too fearful, or have too many of their own ideas in their head and will never have anything that works.  SM was right.  Ego, a freakin' shame.  That's why no one sees.  It is pitiful.

Or because they can't figure it out, it must not be true... HA!  More ego. 

If you knew how it works would you build it?  Eh?  No!  You'd watch one or two brave ones build it.  Do I sound cynical?  Sorry, I am disgusted.  The truth?  Most people can't even follow the simplest of directions.  Why?  Because everyone hears what they want to hear. 

If mine worked do you think I would post it hear or anywhere else?  HA!  You've gotta be out of your mind.  I would try to lead others to understanding, but that too appears fruitless.  The solution?  Go it alone for now, I reckon. 

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2009, 03:14:19 AM »
If mine worked do you think I would post it hear or anywhere else?  HA!  You've gotta be out of your mind.  I would try to lead others to understanding, but that too appears fruitless.  The solution?  Go it alone for now, I reckon.

Back full circle. Isn´t this where "they" want you to be?

Fear. Isolation. Detachment. Apathy?

I think I have the PDF you speak of somewhere in my folders.

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2009, 07:16:55 AM »
Hi Loner,

Most of the strange "oscillations" and or "anomalous " signals, if viewed from a spectrum analyzer would show Harmonic distortion sometimes followed by intermodulation of those created frequencies.

I don't know the wiring for every SM tpu.  He said he wound about three hundred.  He and another engineer, until the found the best way to wind them.  We have that.  I have posted it.  Others posted it.  No one cares.

Study how a dc bias affects the amplitude of the second harmonic.  Look at the difference between linear output vs. nonlinear, and see why he said tube amps to everyone trying to "figure out" how it worked.  Understanding the creation of nonlinear harmonics is the key.  Then recognizing the need for intermodulation to create those times hundreds of thousands per second, all for "free".  Add to that an EM wave at 1000 times the second harmonic and there you go.

Take your input frequencies and rectify them full wave, to give all "positive" pulsed DC at HV.  Think Anode plate.  The Bias collects the "current" within the collector, and becomes the output.

How does someone know if there are harmonics if you don't have a spectrum analyzer?  LOL  They are ALWAYS there!  Even and odd with nonlinear, or all odd with linear.  Unless you start with a Pure Sine wave via crystal or crystal filter.  That is starting point (A.)  Mosfets can clip a sine wave non symmetrically like a tube amp and create nonlinear output.  But you know what?  I found out today that so can a Varactor diode, with a bias.  It is a harmonic generator all by it's lonesome.  The stronger the bias the greater the amplitude of the second harmonic.  Make your bias adjustable on it. 

No mass electronics.  All of the SM clues are solved.  He tried so hard to tell us harmonics and intermodulation, without just coming right out and saying it. 

That's it.

People wanting to start at the square 1 and not square 10, need a spectrum analyzer.  Or if I recall, I saw some fancy math for determining the percentage of harmonics contained within a Sine Wave for a given signal.

I hope that helps.  ONLY known electronic facts, no "wild haired theories" needed.

EM waves - Fact
Interaction of Harmonic distortion - Fact
Harmonic distortion are "created" Frequencies, a type of OU - Fact
Intermodulation for the "creation" of hundreds of thousands of frequencies - Fact
Resonant Tank circuits -  Fact
DC Pulsed Bias increases amplitude of second harmonic - Fact

Now you know, and everyone else.  It is not "fancy" enough for some, who need magic pixie dust.  But that is their loss.  It is actually very simple.  Steven Mark found a "kick" and then found a way to "create" lots of kicks fast sendoff.  Wrapped it with an EM wave to increase distortion and intermodulation and you have power.

It can be dangerous if the thing gets away from you.  Kill pedal, Over voltage shutoff and Over heat shut offs are a must.

Oh, one more thing, the Stack TPU picture is correct, except the lamp chord is horizontal, not vertical.  That's it for now.

Cheers,

Bruce

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #42 on: May 18, 2009, 02:59:01 AM »
Tito,

Nothing is impossible, it just has not been discovered yet (by some).  If you don't believe that SM did anything but steal power from the lines, then you are wasting your time and everyone else's. 

Try reading the engineering reports.  The TPU was/is real.

AT EVERYONE ELSE,

Steven Mark gave every detail of how to build this in the PDF that Lindsay had put together.

The truth is, no one wants to build a working TPU.  They are either too fearful, or have too many of their own ideas in their head and will never have anything that works.  SM was right.  Ego, a freakin' shame.  That's why no one sees.  It is pitiful.

Or because they can't figure it out, it must not be true... HA!  More ego. 

If you knew how it works would you build it?  Eh?  No!  You'd watch one or two brave ones build it.  Do I sound cynical?  Sorry, I am disgusted.  The truth?  Most people can't even follow the simplest of directions.  Why?  Because everyone hears what they want to hear. 

If mine worked do you think I would post it hear or anywhere else?  HA!  You've gotta be out of your mind.  I would try to lead others to understanding, but that too appears fruitless.  The solution?  Go it alone for now, I reckon.

Hi Master bruce, you're absolutely right!!!
we're lucky to have you here sir    :)

i beleive i have rediscovered it sir!

your talking about the PDF, can you share it here SIR  ::)

actually, i have a working device already and i am really want to see other's design

take note i'm using only a vibrator relay!

if the congress will agree then i will post the real thing here !!!

Please don't mail a threat you make me nervous it's for the world!!!

god bless
otits  ;D

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Re: Does a proven working TPU device exist at this time?
« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2009, 03:33:33 AM »
Hi Loner,

Most of the strange "oscillations" and or "anomalous " signals, if viewed from a spectrum analyzer would show Harmonic distortion sometimes followed by intermodulation of those created frequencies.

I don't know the wiring for every SM tpu.  He said he wound about three hundred.  He and another engineer, until the found the best way to wind them.  We have that.  I have posted it.  Others posted it.  No one cares.

Study how a dc bias affects the amplitude of the second harmonic.  Look at the difference between linear output vs. nonlinear, and see why he said tube amps to everyone trying to "figure out" how it worked.  Understanding the creation of nonlinear harmonics is the key.  Then recognizing the need for intermodulation to create those times hundreds of thousands per second, all for "free".  Add to that an EM wave at 1000 times the second harmonic and there you go.

Take your input frequencies and rectify them full wave, to give all "positive" pulsed DC at HV.  Think Anode plate.  The Bias collects the "current" within the collector, and becomes the output.

How does someone know if there are harmonics if you don't have a spectrum analyzer?  LOL  They are ALWAYS there!  Even and odd with nonlinear, or all odd with linear.  Unless you start with a Pure Sine wave via crystal or crystal filter.  That is starting point (A.)  Mosfets can clip a sine wave non symmetrically like a tube amp and create nonlinear output.  But you know what?  I found out today that so can a Varactor diode, with a bias.  It is a harmonic generator all by it's lonesome.  The stronger the bias the greater the amplitude of the second harmonic.  Make your bias adjustable on it. 

No mass electronics.  All of the SM clues are solved.  He tried so hard to tell us harmonics and intermodulation, without just coming right out and saying it. 

That's it.

People wanting to start at the square 1 and not square 10, need a spectrum analyzer.  Or if I recall, I saw some fancy math for determining the percentage of harmonics contained within a Sine Wave for a given signal.

I hope that helps.  ONLY known electronic facts, no "wild haired theories" needed.

EM waves - Fact
Interaction of Harmonic distortion - Fact
Harmonic distortion are "created" Frequencies, a type of OU - Fact
Intermodulation for the "creation" of hundreds of thousands of frequencies - Fact
Resonant Tank circuits -  Fact
DC Pulsed Bias increases amplitude of second harmonic - Fact

Now you know, and everyone else.  It is not "fancy" enough for some, who need magic pixie dust.  But that is their loss.  It is actually very simple.  Steven Mark found a "kick" and then found a way to "create" lots of kicks fast sendoff.  Wrapped it with an EM wave to increase distortion and intermodulation and you have power.

It can be dangerous if the thing gets away from you.  Kill pedal, Over voltage shutoff and Over heat shut offs are a must.

Oh, one more thing, the Stack TPU picture is correct, except the lamp chord is horizontal, not vertical.  That's it for now.

Cheers,

Bruce

As i am reading your post, it seems to me that i have a different design in my device  :-\
and mine works too. 
i am actually concentrating on the collapsing magnetic field
i am making it large and many then its free energy
this is the slight difference discovered by tesla in colorado spring experiment  8)

that 's all there is to it !!!

God bless
otits  ;D

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« Reply #44 on: May 18, 2009, 07:54:46 AM »
Well, I must say, there are several points you just mentioned that have always seemed correct, but I am not good enough to have properly taken advantage of them.  Nice to see the "Horizontal" comment finally being mentioned.    ;D

I can immeadiately see where I will have the most trouble, and as I will need to wind up a new setup, for testing, I am requesting a little assistance, if at all possible.  I would love to attempt to "Tune" the coils for the correct Frequency, but actually have insufficent knowledge to even start.  In the designs I have seen, and in all the "Papers" (I Mean ALL!) I have never seen any "Major" cap for tuning, except for the fixed value parts that were both the same.  I have always assumed the coils would require more/less turns to get the correct tuning, but (as you noted..)  SM created (Over...) 300 coils to perfect the design.  (Well, I will not assume "Perfection" as how far / Close can you go / get before the thing decides to "Overload".  (I do understand.)  I have considered starting the entire thing from "Step 1" to fully understand the dynamics, but basic calculation of the LC network (Tank Ckt) that the loop becomes could easily take me years to come up with proper design parameters.

Do you think the original Book design values would be close enough to approximate turn count, spacing, etc, or would you happen to have an idea already of the interrelations that ARE going to occur with seperate LC Tanks operating within interferrance range of each other?  Radio has always been a Pain in the A** to me, and just aligning a normal receiver with an IF stage was a lot of work.  I gotta admit, I understand the theory, but my practical experience, which is what I depend on, is not enough to supprt creation from nothing.  I'm sure I could work it out the hard way, as SM did, by winding 300 different coils and finding the correct relations to use.  Unfortunately, by myself, that would take years......
(Figure 1 coil in two days.  2-3 days to tweak and test.  Add 2 more to absorb the data.  So, say a week for each coil, if working hard.  That means, that in 6 years time, putting my all into it, I could have useful data to provide on the Physical coil design.)

Sure, I have the PDF's Plus.  (Lots of other data too....)  They all very specifically avoid ANY reference to this aspect of construction, which I am sure is no accident.  So, finally, I ask my basic question.  Have any equations for coil / frequency calculation?  Are the standard book equations OK?  (I have these...)  Is this an unknown, and therefore I must start and go the long slow way?   (With the clues, I'm hoping I could shorten the time a little, but I have had bad luck in the past.  I once spent 5 hours on a network problem to find a Hub/Switch was not powered up.....)

Little note:  In radio work, harmonics can be detected and measured VERY accurately with a scope, but it's one of those things you must get the "Feel" for in reading the signal.  I learned that one the hard way, and it took A LOT of practice to do it right.  This was in the 70's, again, and probably not taught at all anymore, even in schools.  (Easier to read past the 5th harmonic with a scope than spectrum analyser, but if you've never done it that way, you would never see it.  With No-one to show me how, I would never have figured that one out by myself.  Old radio guys didn't have the types of tools we have today.  This is one of the reasons I dislike radio, as I learned all this without ever seeing a spectrum analyser.  It wasn't till I was at IBM, working on digital "Things" that I ever got to use one.)

OK, I typing too much and asking an awful lot.  I really appreciate the insight, and accept certain aspects in a way that you would not believe, although I can't try to explain the differences, because to me, radio doesn't operate exactly how the books say anyway.  Ask any old ham how a buried radiator (Under Ground!) can transmit and receive, and you can see what I mean.  You explanation, modified slightly for my meager understanding, makes more sense than any I have seen put forth.  Just so you are aware, I have an already wound 3 stack, would exactly as the (or one of them...) 3 stack you mentioned.  Problem was, certain inductive effects prevented me from much testing, as the voltage went way higher than my components could handle.  If I knew HOW to tune the coils, I would be willing to give that unit another try...  I found enough cap. effect between the controls and the collectors to make all the figuring I did worthless.  Never could get ANY resosance, as the frequency value changed so drastically during the "Charging" that the thing colapsed itself every time.  (I actually posted that effect from a different coil.)

Again, Thanks for the info, any thing you have would be appreciated.

Hi Loner,

Unlike most, who have never or barely ever read through SM's clues, I am pretty confident of several things.

First, with your three stack, I doubt it is wound properly unless the lamp chord is flat, about three turns.  This gives you and inside (antenna) loop and outside (output-bias) loop.  Bottom collector, tune as a resonant tank circuit to the fundamental.  Next collector tune as a resonant tank to the second harmonic component.  Third collector to the third harmonic component.

The "goal" of everything is to create as many of each of those three freq's possible.  But you have to think out of the box.  Three inputs are different.  They are AC, go all the way around and then full wave rectify them and put them in the outer loop as your pulsed DC bias.  This is how I see it.  Based on a lot of information.  Harmonic distortion+intermodulation to produce our three frequencies.  There is some cool stuff that we see when all of this occurs, in the vids.  Vibration, magnetic fields, RF flame from the antenna loop, etc.  The idea is to "create" as many "kicks" as possible, fast send off.  And sometimes all three combine.  But not the way some here think. 

Hmmm...Intermodulation.  What a great way to create OU.  Since it IS OU already.  Look up PIM or passive intermodulation, or IMP or IM products or Intermodulation products.  Use it to create more of the kicks you want. 

The next time someone shows you a "scope shot" of a kick, I would bet a cheese sandwich that it was CAUSED by the intermodulation of harmonics. Regardless of HOW they caused it.  Which brings us back to doe.  Doe Ray me fa so la ti.  And if at doe, then what do I do with it to make power?  SM said that the "created" frequencies are simply a means to an end.  To create replicas of the fundamental and second and third harmonics.

Hope that helps.  I am assembling a team and we are full speed ahead.  I don't have the patience of some and just pulse coils endlessly looking for something.  So I took a different route and spent all of my time buried in SM's words, libraries and research.  Keeping focus on JUST SM and not mixing 5 different devices and 10 different masters together.

I actually believe that SM gave us ALL the info we need to build this thing.  Why?  Because he said so.

P.S. Loner, why not post some scope shots and teach how to see the harmonics with just a scope.  I would like to see that myself.  Use sine waves if you can.  Thanks!

Regards,

Bruce

 

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