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Offline overtaker

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #45 on: April 22, 2009, 02:12:13 AM »
Alex,  You can patent it ( get patent pending status ) and still give it to the world.  Or, again if it works,  you can patent it and  make sure it is available to the public at an extremely affordable price.   
Some have the opinion that if you ( anyone ) patents a efficient energy source than your the great Satan!   Not true.  Patenting a gravity wheel might be best for mankind.  By the way,  patenting something MAKES it public.  If you decide to offer it for free...GOOD for you.  If you patent it...GOOD for you.  Everyone that says " what about the benefit to mankind " needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves " what did I do today for mankind?  I think the answer to that would be NOTHING.  A lot of people could use a hand nowadays.  Nuff said. 

P.S.  You can talk to your dad and let him help with your decision.

   

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Re: New Wheel Design
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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #46 on: April 22, 2009, 02:27:54 AM »
Alex,  You can patent it ( get patent pending status ) and still give it to the world.  Or, again if it works,  you can patent it and  make sure it is available to the public at an extremely affordable price.   
Some have the opinion that if you ( anyone ) patents a efficient energy source than your the great Satan!   Not true.  Patenting a gravity wheel might be best for mankind.  By the way,  patenting something MAKES it public.  If you decide to offer it for free...GOOD for you.  If you patent it...GOOD for you.  Everyone that says " what about the benefit to mankind " needs to look in the mirror and ask themselves " what did I do today for mankind?  I think the answer to that would be NOTHING.  A lot of people could use a hand nowadays.  Nuff said. 

P.S.  You can talk to your dad and let him help with your decision.

   

We will have to see if it works first... In some ways, by me posting this on here, I feel as though im going beyond myself...

Alex

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #47 on: April 22, 2009, 02:45:10 AM »
Wow, just wow.

Corporate is moving in. This is why you concentrate the floating on forums. Control the flow...

Alex, do not let the "voices of reason" prevent your possible invention in reaching the world. Because that is what happens when you try to patent a world changing idea. It gets shelved or bought up. Sure, you may be rich, but the collective still does not have a new energy source. Open source, the world gets it and you will STILL be rich.

This all hypothetically ofcourse. I cannot believe I am arguing open source here, isn´t this forum supposed to be pro-open source?

Don´t make me create my own forum now... Unbelievable patterns are forming in here... I must start a file on suspicious communications between "members". Yes I am implying unshielded opposing forces. Prove me wrong.

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #48 on: April 22, 2009, 03:06:48 AM »
You know one of my favorite colors is Aqua.   Oh well.  I agree with you.  DON'T bury the tech. 
If someone gets patent pending status then shout it from the rooftops, send DVDs to all major universities,  post it everywhere!   We aren't that far apart.

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2009, 03:14:17 AM »
Looks like we should bring back the patent vs open source thread again.

Tesla

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2009, 04:45:40 AM »
Wow, just wow.

Corporate is moving in. This is why you concentrate the floating on forums. Control the flow...



Don´t make me create my own forum now... Unbelievable patterns are forming in here... I must start a file on suspicious communications between "members". Yes I am implying unshielded opposing forces. Prove me wrong.

FDROLMAO AquariuZ

 A Blacksmith and a construction worker  Corporate?  FDEOLMAO

The only difference is what can protect the inventors name and possibly a carrier of inventing. Or give it away and work for those who took it from you, just a little above minimum wages. It is your choice.

 Alex
 If it works, do the cover thing until patent pending is in place, then shout it from the mountain tops.
Show it self starting and accelerating, but not how it truly is and that should be enough for the string. IMHO

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2009, 01:17:19 PM »
FDROLMAO AquariuZ

A Blacksmith and a construction worker  Corporate?  FDEOLMAO

NO! You're a shape shifting corporate lizard alien who has replaced the real AB Hammer!  :o :o :o

OK, I may have overreacted a little.

Self portrait attached. Tihi  ;D

Alex, please do not leave us hanging like in the MT Combination thread

Pretty please

AZ

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Offline AB Hammer

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2009, 02:02:13 PM »
NO! You're a shape shifting corporate lizard alien who has replaced the real AB Hammer!  :o :o :o

OK, I may have overreacted a little.

Self portrait attached. Tihi  ;D

Alex, please do not leave us hanging like in the MT Combination thread

Pretty please

AZ

AquariuZ

386?, dot matrix? That is a very old photo. LOL

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2009, 02:40:48 PM »
Well, today is the day, I'm about to put it all together...

Alex

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Re: New Wheel Design
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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2009, 03:10:19 PM »
I dont agree because though gravity is constant, weights that move in and out of an axle are not, a weight with gravity equals force and that force can be made greater or lesser depending on the position of the weight to the axle of rotation...

Wind is dynamic but even if it wasnt, it could still turn a wheel due to the blades, so that same effect needs to be applied to gravity so that its pull is stronger on one side of a wheel than another but this time, not by blades, but by weights...

Alex
You can alter the torque by moving the weights in and out, but you have to consider the time you have the different torque levels. Energy is torque times time - not torque alone. You will anyway in one revolution lift the weights up as much as they fall down. Those operations respectively require and release the very same energy. Whether the object is moving sideways toward or away from the center doesn't make any difference. It is the UP and DOWN operation of mass that matters. Therefor it is impossible to make a gravity powered motor. I'll bet my balls that you will never make those work.

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2009, 03:18:34 PM »
You can alter the torque by moving the weights in and out, but you have to consider the time you have the different torque levels. Energy is torque times time - not torque alone. You will anyway in one revolution lift the weights up as much as they fall down. Those operations respectively require and release the very same energy. Whether the object is moving sideways toward or away from the center doesn't make any difference. It is the UP and DOWN operation of mass that matters. Therefor it is impossible to make a gravity powered motor. I'll bet my balls that you will never make those work.

Vidar

Isn't it torque times angle (displacement)? Time has no business with energy. So it's impossible to have a gravity motor, it's impossible to have a magnet motor...so what is your role on this forum besides spreading how impossible free energy is?

Alex I seemed to have missed this thread. I'm eager to see it as well.

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Re: New Wheel Design
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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2009, 03:22:24 PM »
Low-Q,    I won't take that bet.   I'm not a fan of mountain oysters.    ;D ;D ;D

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2009, 03:42:23 PM »
Ok the wheel is made, its sitting next to me now, its looks like a piece of Art, the weights are not in yet, but the levers are, the weights can be put in within a few minutes, but before I do, I have to sought another problem, this is the final problem, the levers miss the axle when they should rest upon it, so I need to put somthing around the linside part of the axle to make it thicker, does anyone here have any ideas? maybe tubing? I dont really know, but soon as I do, I will finish it and test it today, then post the reults, thanks all

Alex

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2009, 03:51:41 PM »
Try some pvc tube with something on the inside like paper or something to make it fit over your current setup.

Another funny solution...

Take some triple or double A batteries and put them all next to each other on the rim of your current axle. Use ductape to hold them together and give a smooth finish.. You'll probably need double sided tape to not have the batteries make you nuts.

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #59 on: April 22, 2009, 03:56:29 PM »
Try some pvc tube with something on the inside like paper or something to make it fit over your current setup.

Another funny solution...

Take some triple or double A batteries and put them all next to each other on the rim of your current axle. Use ductape to hold them together. You'll probably need double sided tape to not have the batteries make you nuts.

thannks Broli, I will go now and look at some pvc tube, I can take the axle with me and see how it fits....

Back in a min

Alex

 

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