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Offline broli

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2009, 03:57:19 PM »
thannks Broli, I will go now and look at some pvc tube, I can take the axle with me and see how it fits....

Back in a min

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Re: New Wheel Design
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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2009, 04:08:56 PM »
Illustration time...


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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #62 on: April 22, 2009, 05:12:29 PM »
FWIW, I was able to get a provisional patent (on a misguided OU idea) in three days.  It was at the advice of my wife and father at the time.  I wanted to just reveal it.  It would have been cheaper if I did, because I only had a "theory" and some tests but had not produced the whole working model, which would not have been possible.  My goal was to get it to the world as fast as possible, not make money.  But now, in retrospect, I have thought it through in case there is a "next time".

I think patenting it is the way to go, but not for the money.  I would want to force corporations to do good with the invention, as well as make their profit.  I think I would require that they implement humanitarian projects and charitable works as a condition for them being able to sell products using the technology.  And I might require a small percentage of any device they are making a profit off of.  At least enough to pay for the patents, lawyers, and for any charitable works I might like to endow that would not benefit directly from the tech.

Before you go to get a patent you are advised to disclose to one or more non-family members that you can trust (me, me!) so that the tech is safe from mishap to yourself and possible theft (even by the law firm).  This disclosure is your safety net.

So the only question for me is, "Can I live with the guilt of those who suffered and die due to an additional three day delay in releasing the tech?".  That is the biggest decision.  I cannot say that either way is the right path. 

Good luck!

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #62 on: April 22, 2009, 05:12:29 PM »
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Offline Alexioco

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #63 on: April 22, 2009, 05:35:12 PM »
Everything has been done, I tried spinning the wheel (without the weights) but with just the levers, and another problem has now presented itself to me, the levers catch eachother, so they need to be cut so they miss eachother which will then result in needing an even bigger axle, so i'm going to have to think this through before I can test it with the weights...


Speak to you soon...

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2009, 05:50:27 PM »
Everything has been done, I tried spinning the wheel (without the weights) but with just the levers, and another problem has now presented itself to me, the levers catch eachother, so they need to be cut so they miss eachother which will then result in needing an even bigger axle, so i'm going to have to think this through before I can test it with the weights...


Speak to you soon...

Alex

A model would be handy (hint hint)

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Re: New Wheel Design
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Offline Alexioco

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2009, 09:55:22 PM »
A model would be handy (hint hint)

AZ

lol I bet... I found that not all of the levers need cutting, firstly, I'm going to look at the levers, cut them to how they need to be cut, makesure they can lean on the axle if not, then I will need a thicker axle, so in the mean time, could somone tell me what I can use to make the axle even thicker, I dont want it to thick or its defeating the object of the weights going in to make an overbalance...

Yes, I model test would be great, I would appreciate that very much, but I dont want to reveal this untill I have tested it if you dont mind, then the model test can be compared to my real life test...

Alex

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2009, 12:36:18 AM »
What size is your axle now and how much larger do you want to make it?

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Offline 4Tesla

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #67 on: April 23, 2009, 12:41:22 AM »
What size is your axle now and how much larger do you want to make it?

You'll find out tomorrow  ;D  ;)

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #68 on: April 23, 2009, 01:00:14 AM »
What size is your axle now and how much larger do you want to make it?

The axle is now 2cm thick, I need it to be about 4cm thick.

Alex

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #69 on: April 23, 2009, 01:11:22 AM »
Buy a short piece of pipe 4cm. thick  ( the length you need ) and measure the inside diameter of that pipe.  Take that figure and subtract 2cm.    Take that number and divide by 2.   Now just buy some dowels that size and install several pieces between the pipe and shaft.  I hope this helps.

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #70 on: April 23, 2009, 01:25:08 AM »
Buy a short piece of pipe 4cm. thick  ( the length you need ) and measure the inside diameter of that pipe.  Take that figure and subtract 2cm.    Take that number and divide by 2.   Now just buy some dowels that size and install several pieces between the pipe and shaft.  I hope this helps.

Sorry, Im not quite with you, So I buy:

1. Short piece of pipe 4cm. thick
2. Measure the inside diameter of that pipe
3. Take that figure and subtract 2cm
4. Take that number and divide by 2
5. Buy some dowels that size and install several pieces between the pipe and shaft.

So this means when I have the 4cm. thick pipe, I put dowle through it.

I have some dowel (1.1cm thick) Which I am using for the axle, it runs through a 2cm.thick pipe. So what I need is pipe that is 4cm. thick on the outside and 1.1cm thick on the inside, then that would do the trick just nice, how could I get that though?

Alex

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Re: New Wheel Design
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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #71 on: April 23, 2009, 01:59:15 AM »
It is hard for me to understand your setup without knowing more.   Lets say your new pipe's inside diameter is 4cm. and you are able to slide that over the 2cm. pipe.  That would leave room for 1cm. dowels to be placed all around the 2cm. pipe and under the 4cm. pipe.  If you can't slide these over the existing shaft then we can come up with something else.   :)

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2009, 02:15:03 AM »
It is hard for me to understand your setup without knowing more.   Lets say your new pipe's inside diameter is 4cm. and you are able to slide that over the 2cm. pipe.  That would leave room for 1cm. dowels to be placed all around the 2cm. pipe and under the 4cm. pipe.  If you can't slide these over the existing shaft then we can come up with something else.   :)

ahhh, I'm with you now, so I would get a 4cm. diameter pipe, place the 1.cm. diameter dowel through it, then place 3cm. diameter dowels around the 1.cm dowel and there we have it...

So I need to buy:

1. 4cm. Dowel
2. 3cm. Dowel (which fit around the 1 cm. dowel)

I will take a little ruler with me to get the correct measurements tomoz...

Infact I have just had an idea, tell me if you think this is better or not:

I could wrap 1.1/2cm dowels around the 1cm. dowel to make it 4.cm thick? It would also make lesss noise if it worked...

Edit: I have now another idea, what if I some how got the 2cm. dowel that I have here, cut 3 pieces and put them around the piece of 1cm. dowel? that would make it 5 cm. thick, maybe there is a way to acheive 4cm. thick doing it this method?


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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2009, 02:29:29 AM »
If you place a 4cm. pipe ( inside diameter ) over a 1cm. dowel then you should use 4pcs. of 1 1/2cm. dowels between the two.   This will give you a solid surface for your levers.   

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Re: New Wheel Design
« Reply #74 on: April 23, 2009, 02:45:23 AM »
If you place a 4cm. pipe ( inside diameter ) over a 1cm. dowel then you should use 4pcs. of 1 1/2cm. dowels between the two.   This will give you a solid surface for your levers.   


Right then, thats sorted, all I need to do now is, cut the levers so they can all swing, then make the axle...

The wheel is quite heavy without the weights, the weights are about 1 ounce each, I just hope they are heavy enough to move the wheel and sustain motion...


Alex

 

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