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Author Topic: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?  (Read 124974 times)

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #345 on: May 12, 2009, 09:10:20 PM »
Yes, mosfet driver is the output to the diodes and coil.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #346 on: May 12, 2009, 10:40:08 PM »
Yes, mosfet driver is the output to the diodes and coil.

Tom

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #347 on: May 13, 2009, 01:39:56 AM »
How the Pulse Generator pwm works isno different then a speed controller.

The speed of a DC motor is directly proportional to the supply voltage, so if we reduce the supply voltage from 12 Volts to 6 Volts, the motor will run at half the speed. How can this be achieved when the battery is fixed at 12 Volts?
The speed controller works by varying the average voltage sent to the motor. It could do this by simply adjusting the voltage sent to the motor, but this is quite inefficient to do. A better way is to switch the motor's supply on and off very quickly. If the switching is fast enough, the motor doesn't notice it, it only notices the average effect.

When you watch a film in the cinema, or the television, what you are actually seeing is a series of fixed pictures, which change rapidly enough that your eyes just see the average effect - movement. Your brain fills in the gaps to give an average effect.

Now imagine a light bulb with a switch. When you close the switch, the bulb goes on and is at full brightness, say 100 Watts. When you open the switch it goes off (0 Watts). Now if you close the switch for a fraction of a second, then open it for the same amount of time, the filament won't have time to cool down and heat up, and you will just get an average glow of 50 Watts. This is how lamp dimmers work, and the same principle is used by speed controllers to drive a motor. When the switch is closed, the motor sees 12 Volts, and when it is open it sees 0 Volts. If the switch is open for the same amount of time as it is closed, the motor will see an average of 6 Volts, and will run more slowly accordingly.

Tom.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #347 on: May 13, 2009, 01:39:56 AM »
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #348 on: May 13, 2009, 07:48:24 AM »
@tommyreed

This graphic I composed is what I understand from the information that you provided. I do expect that the members of the forum start replicating your work.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #349 on: May 13, 2009, 09:27:26 AM »
This is in fact a standard Boost Converter circuit. The purpose of the Boost Converter
is to transform a lower input voltage to a higher level. This type of technology have
been used in everyday electronics for decades. And no, it's not overunity in anyway.
Furthermore, three of the diodes is not necessary for operation.
I have edited the picture and removed the redundant diodes. See attached picture #1

Just to clear up things I have added a regular Booster Converter topology circuit.
Please see attached picture #2.

Here's a link describing the widely used Boost converter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_converter

Iv'e been doing this stuff for so long in my day jobb and I can tell you all it's not OU.
Tommmey have to call in professionals helping him take accurate proper measurements.
You really need some "how to" education/skills when measuring a pulsed power system.
From what I can tell Tommey got neither of this.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2009, 10:22:35 AM by Ergo »

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #349 on: May 13, 2009, 09:27:26 AM »
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #350 on: May 13, 2009, 12:43:09 PM »
@tommyreed

This graphic I composed is what I understand from the information that you provided. I do expect that the members of the forum start replicating your work.

Jesus

Hi Jesus,

I would like to suggest a modification in the schematics you composed.
Now the TC4429 is fed from the 5V voltage stabilizer.  This means that the 4 MOSFETs receive a maximum of 5V driving pulse as the gate-source control voltage,  and this value is near to the threshold voltage (which is anywhere between 2-4V, see data sheet http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/RF/RFP40N10.pdf ). While the MOSFETs are surely open for the 5V, no doubt,  their gate-source ON resistance, rDSonwill surely be higher than what would be achieveable by running the TC4429 from the 12V voltage stabilizer. 
If you see the rDSon value from the data sheet, it is specified as 0.04 Ohm at 10V gate-source voltage input, VGS,  normally such power MOSFETs need at least 8-10V gate source control voltage to obtain the specified ON resistance. 
This modification would make the 5V stabilizer redundant, while the power loss on the 4 parallel MOSFETs will be less, hence switching efficiency can increase.
If you agree with this, than the supply pins of the TC4429 (that are tied to the 5V stabilizer)  would connect to the output of the 12V stabilizer, that is all.

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #351 on: May 13, 2009, 12:51:33 PM »
These diode are needed!, in fact it works great.
I found that if you don't have them, you will blow the mosfets.
I had to replace many before adding those.
Also, forgot to add the capacitor onthe input battery.
I fixed the schematic on the web page: OverUnityNow.com.
One other thing, the flyback effect you talked about did not use mosfet technology or low ohms coils.

Tom....

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #351 on: May 13, 2009, 12:51:33 PM »
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #352 on: May 13, 2009, 12:59:03 PM »
You can use a 7812 to power both, but caution is needed.
I have used 7812 on both circut, but when using different mosfet, the 4429 works good at 5v.
So its a basic driver for most mosfets.....
Tom

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #353 on: May 13, 2009, 01:02:23 PM »
Electrical Specifications TC = 25oC, Unless Otherwise Specified
PARAMETER SYMBOL TEST CONDITIONS MIN TYP MAX UNITS
Drain to Source Breakdown Voltage BVDSS ID = 250mA, VGS = 0V (Figure 9) 100 - - V
Gate Threshold Voltage VGS(TH) VGS = VDS, ID = 250mA (Figure 8) 2 - 4 V
Zero Gate Voltage Drain Current IDSS VDS = 80V,
VGS = 0V
TC = 25oC - - 1 mA
TC = 150oC - - 50 mA
Gate to Source Leakage Current IGSS VGS = ±20V - - ±100 nA
Drain to Source On Resistance rDS(ON) ID = 40A, VGS = 10V (Figure 7) - - 0.040 W
Turn-On Time tON VDD = 50V, ID = 20A,
RL = 2.5W, VGS = 10V, RGS = 4.2 W
(Figure 11)
- - 80 ns
Turn-On Delay Time td(ON) - 17 - ns
Rise Time tr - 30 - ns
Turn-Off Delay Time td(OFF) - 42 - ns
Fall Time tf - 20 - ns
Turn-Off Time tOFF - - 100 ns
Total Gate Charge Qg(TOT) VGS = 0V to 20V VDD = 80V,
ID = 40A,
RL = 2.0W
(Figures 11)
- - 300 nC
Gate Charge at 10V Qg(10) VGS = 0V to 10V - - 150 nC
Threshold Gate Charge Qg(TH) VGS = 0V to 2V - - 7.5 nC
Thermal Resistance Junction to Case RqJC - - 0.94 oC/W
Thermal Resistance Junction to Ambient RqJA TO-247 - - 30 oC/W
TO-220AB and TO-263AB - - 62 oC/W
Source to Drain Diode Specifications
PARAMETER SYMBOL TEST CONDITIONS MIN TYP MAX UNITS
Source to Drain Diode Voltage VSD ISD = 40A - - 1.5 V
Reverse Recovery Time trr ISD = 40A, dISD/dt = 100A/ms - - 200 ns

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #354 on: May 13, 2009, 01:10:00 PM »
You can use a 7812 to power both, but caution is needed.
I have used 7812 on both circut, but when using different mosfet, the 4429 works good at 5v.
So its a basic driver for most mosfets.....
Tom

Hi Tom,

Yes, ok.  Maybe the current peaks exceed the 1 Amper limit of the 7812 when the 4429 has to charge up the 8-10nF gate-source capacitance of the combined MOSFETs and in case of a 7805 this limit is not exceeded?
I think this question should be examined and use a heftier 12V stabilizer.

rgds,  Gyula

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #355 on: May 13, 2009, 01:15:57 PM »
These diode are needed!, in fact it works great.
I found that if you don't have them, you will blow the mosfets.
If you blow your mosfets it's because you are using low voltage transistors and have no
feedback loop regulation of the transformed voltage that limits the PWM pulses when needed.
There are much better mosfets available now. The ones you are using are almost antique.
Using 100V mosfets in a boost converter configuration without regulation is transistor suicide.

One other thing, the flyback effect you talked about did not use mosfet technology or low ohms coils.
What flyback effect?? Did I talk about that?
If you mean the Boost Converter topology I presented it makes use of whatever components you choose.
But a high efficiency Boost converter contains a low RDson Mosfet, an ultrafast low forward voltage diode,
a low ohmic inductor with a low hysteresis powder core with a distributed airgap, namely MPP cores.
Believe me, the only thing you re-invented is the boost converter, and your'e not using any feedback loop to
control the output voltage and this tends to kill your low voltage mosfets. Do you even own an oscilloscope?
You should really listen to me. I've been developing this type of technology for a living the past 10 years.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2009, 01:56:54 PM by Ergo »

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #356 on: May 13, 2009, 01:56:13 PM »
If you blow your mosfets it's because you are using low voltage transistors and have no
feedback loop regulation of the transformed voltage that limits the PWM pulses when needed.
There are much better mosfets available now. The ones you are using are almost antique.
Using 100V mosfets in a boost converter configuration without regulation is transistor suicide.
What flyback effect??
If you mean the Boost Converter topology I presented it makes use of whatever components you choose.
But a high efficiency Boost converter contains a low RDson Mosfet, an ultrafast low forward voltage diode,
a low ohmic inductor with a low hysteresis powder core with a distributed airgap, namely MPP cores.
Believe me, the only thing you re-invented is the boost converter, and your'e not using any feedback loop to
control the output voltage and this tends to kill your low voltage mosfets. Do you even own an oscilloscope?
You should really listen to me. I've been developing this type of technology for a living the past 10 years.

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Thank you Ergo. Not likely to listen, ignored all my posts so far too. Well, it'll be yet another that eventually disappears into oblivion, or with any luck, will come back one day and admit that they've discovered there is no extra power.

We've seen it several times before, and it's a pattern that just persists. Something we have to accept is there are a million Tommy Reed's out there re-discovering inductive kickback and SMPS technology, and periodically one finds his way to youtube and this forum making erroneous claims about it.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #357 on: May 13, 2009, 02:31:50 PM »
@ Ergo & Poynt99

You both seem knowledgeable in inductive kickback and SMPS technology, please take some time if you can to look at the WO1999038247 patent for HARNESSING A BACK EMF and give us feedback on whether or not you think it is possible in that configuration or is it just a pie in the sky patent.

Edit:  Link to patent description  http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1999038247&IA=IE1999000005&DISPLAY=DESC


@ All

Sorry for side tracking this thread a little but I need feedback (no pun intended) ;) I will gladly open a new thread if there is merit to the above stated patent.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #358 on: May 13, 2009, 03:06:37 PM »
@ Ergo & Poynt99

You both seem knowledgeable in inductive kickback and SMPS technology, please take some time if you can to look at the WO1999038247 patent for HARNESSING A BACK EMF and give us feedback on whether or not you think it is possible in that configuration or is it just a pie in the sky patent.

Edit:  Link to patent description  http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=1999038247&IA=IE1999000005&DISPLAY=DESC

I have investigated the patent but I can't see the point!!??
It is a regular dual winded transformer circuit where you redirect BEMF to source.
This is standard procedure in SMPS technology and it shouldn't be patentable.
Anyway, if OU is your goal you shouldn't spend any effort on this patent.
BEMF can never become OU due to hysteresis, eddy currents and resistive losses.
Even if there was no such losses it couldn't become more than 100% efficient.

Conclusion: It's possible to patent just anything and this is probably just a bullshit
patent filed by a person/crew that had no idea of the unimportance of their application.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #359 on: May 13, 2009, 03:34:34 PM »
What gets me is that everyone with a so called education, unlike my self are telling others that BEMF has less energy out then in. Its like our Government being highly educated and doing the same, and yet making big mistakes in this country.
Alway know this, I do my research and spend my money to find answers even getting patents to give it out for free.
God has given us free energy like the sun to use, even to make electricity. But Governments won't let this technology be cheap, because they could not make money on it.
OverUnity is there, we have to search for it, and some times its in front of us and yet we did not see it.
BEMF is wasted energy in today world, I know that I am using BEMF.
When the coil is disconnected from the circut, no power goes to the output because of the blocking doides.
If we are looking for Over Unity, research thing that some my have missed, or block out of text books!
As for my meters and what they show, its OU!
Tom.

 

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