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Author Topic: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?  (Read 159667 times)

powercat

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #285 on: May 03, 2009, 03:36:50 PM »
@all

This should now be the new title of this thread

Tommey Reed's 600% MONEY GRAB 001

http://energytechnologynow.org/page7

do not buy this product it is unproven

cat

Paul-R

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #286 on: May 03, 2009, 03:49:28 PM »
Hi All;

Seems my above URL file is now at

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=267

Regards,
Paul
That's very useful, Paul; its worth a thousand videos.
Paul.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #287 on: May 03, 2009, 04:08:43 PM »
Bravo, this forum strikes again.

Just as I mentioned to Tommey to stay away from this forum in my post week or so ago, another inventor/discoverer has been successfully alienated by the members and the management here.

Whether Tommey is correct or not is not an issue anymore. It's about the growing infamy of OU forum as a hot spot of arm chair "debunkers" and "experts", in every field of life.

This forum has joined those household fine names such as bautforum.com, quackwatch.com, and others.

Well done everyone!

Stefan, I guess this infamy will bring more revenue to the OU, whatever that might be, as obviously you don't care who's corpse you need to walk over to get to it.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #288 on: May 03, 2009, 05:29:07 PM »
@all

Why dont you try this:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6362.msg175871#msg175871

Help me and I will help you. All the help must be free.

Jesus

nyctuber

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #289 on: May 03, 2009, 06:58:28 PM »
He's still making videos, just doesn't want them linked here.

« Last Edit: May 03, 2009, 07:29:21 PM by nyctuber »

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #290 on: May 04, 2009, 12:13:36 AM »
It usually comes down to this:

1) Like clockwork, someone new discovers that using inductive kickback, they can charge a capacitor or drive a load to a higher voltage than the applied input voltage.

2) They have unknowingly discovered the well-known world of switched-mode power supplies and DC-DC converters!

3) The knowledge of proper measurements is lacking along with the appropriate instruments for making these measurements.

4) The 'inventor' shuts down and leaves due to the advice given by those that have previously tried this themselves and confirmed the reality of the situation.

5) Simple concepts are overlooked or just not investigated, and this leads to false notions about what is happening in the circuit and with the measurements.

6) Unfortunately, folks become annoyed and defensive rather than sincerely contemplating the possibility that they are perhaps mistaken.

And so unfortunately the cycle continues...

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #291 on: May 05, 2009, 06:27:42 AM »
@all
if anyone has backed up tommey reeds videos can you share them whith everyone .
thanks

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #292 on: May 05, 2009, 06:28:58 PM »
I am reloading them on youtube

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #293 on: May 05, 2009, 06:30:22 PM »
I am reloading them on youtube
thanks a lot man
will u b loading all of them.
when can we expect to see them on you tube.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #294 on: May 06, 2009, 11:06:45 PM »
It usually comes down to this:

1) Like clockwork, someone new discovers that using inductive kickback, they can charge a capacitor or drive a load to a higher voltage than the applied input voltage.

2) They have unknowingly discovered the well-known world of switched-mode power supplies and DC-DC converters!

3) The knowledge of proper measurements is lacking along with the appropriate instruments for making these measurements.

4) The 'inventor' shuts down and leaves due to the advice given by those that have previously tried this themselves and confirmed the reality of the situation.

5) Simple concepts are overlooked or just not investigated, and this leads to false notions about what is happening in the circuit and with the measurements.

6) Unfortunately, folks become annoyed and defensive rather than sincerely contemplating the possibility that they are perhaps mistaken.

And so unfortunately the cycle continues...

.99

Well, yes, in the last video with some real load like the hotgun dryer,

Tommey is now using the BackEMF to run directly the heatgun.

It seems to have just
only  66 % efficiency
from the test, where he used 50 Volts on the cap bank at the end of the movie.
So no overunity.
Would be interesting to see, how the efficiency will be, if he will drive with the BackEMF the motor/generator combination and hook the heatgun to the generator output.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtRjudNTSg

Well, some people just point out over here the errors some inventors make
and some of their measurement errors.
This is a free speech forum about these topics
and when inventors make measurement errors,
they have to be pointed out.

So this is also a way to help the inventor to make
his circuits better.

It has nothing to do with pushing the inventors away from this forum.

Inventors should have more self confidence and should defend themself better
when they think they are right and also should admit, that they have done
errors, when somebody else points them out and the inventor will see the error then
by himself.
We all make errors.
So there is no problem to accept this.
But it has to be pointed out and agreed on it, so we
know which measurements are right or wrong.
Otherwise we will never make any progress.

Just think about this.

Regards. Stefan.

chrisC

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #295 on: May 06, 2009, 11:55:45 PM »
Well, yes, in the last video with some real load like the hotgun dryer,

Tommey is now using the BackEMF to run directly the heatgun.

It seems to have just
only  66 % efficiency
from the test, where he used 50 Volts on the cap bank at the end of the movie.
So no overunity.
Would be interesting to see, how the efficiency will be, if he will drive with the BackEMF the motor/generator combination and hook the heatgun to the generator output.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtRjudNTSg

Well, some people just point out over here the errors some inventors make
and some of their measurement errors.
This is a free speech forum about these topics
and when inventors make measurement errors,
they have to be pointed out.

So this is also a way to help the inventor to make
his circuits better.

It has nothing to do with pushing the inventors away from this forum.

Inventors should have more self confidence and should defend themself better
when they think they are right and also should admit, that they have done
errors, when somebody else points them out and the inventor will see the error then
by himself.
We all make errors.
So there is no problem to accept this.
But it has to be pointed out and agreed on it, so we
know which measurements are right or wrong.
Otherwise we will never make any progress.

Just think about this.

Regards. Stefan.

@Stefan:

I think what he was showing in that video you referenced is that at 50% duty cycle of the PWM, the efficiency drops to 66%.

But if the duty cycle was 33%, at 50V at the capacitor, (ie half of the battery voltage), he maintains it's still way OU. Or did I misunderstand?

One of Tommey's problems id he has too many videos. IMO, he just need to do a couple of videos, one just showing the back emf coil & circuit (which he has done) with measurements and then another video just driving the hairdryer with the back emf & capacitor bank & DC batteries, all connected with meters where he does not switch between them. Then we can all see which meter is showing what results!

cheers
chrisC

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #296 on: May 07, 2009, 12:28:56 AM »
Hi ChrisC,
In the first 4 minutes of this video,
the efficiency is about 73 % only.

The test at around minute 5 is around 68 %.

At minute 8 he is  only at about 60 % efficiency when he cranked the BACKEMF to 121.5 Volts DC.


( all assumed that the supply battery voltage under load was 96 Volts, he did not show this unfortunately,
if it dropped the efficiency is a bit better)

chrisC

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #297 on: May 07, 2009, 12:59:22 AM »
Hi ChrisC,
In the first 4 minutes of this video,
the efficiency is about 73 % only.

The test at around minute 5 is around 68 %.

At minute 8 he is  only at about 60 % efficiency when he cranked the BACKEMF to 121.5 Volts DC.


( all assumed that the supply battery voltage under load was 96 Volts, he did not show this unfortunately,
if it dropped the efficiency is a bit better)

Stefan:

I watched it again and here's what I think he's saying.

At around 6.30 into the video he's giving us a current measurement of 4.48A consumed at the back emf output (hair dryer) and a input current measured at the battery or filtered caps. of 3.57 A - both the voltages are normalized to around 50V (input and output). So, this is O.U

He then added that to drive the back emf harder using > 33% or so duty cycle and hence cranking the voltage higher is possible but will result in lower efficiency because of the > 33% duty cycle of the PWM because the energy is not used by the back emf but gets dumped to ground.

Well, all I can say is to wait for Tom to engineer his loop and to see if the total OU gain is able to complete the loop minus total loss. Only time will tell.

cheers
chrisC




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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #298 on: May 08, 2009, 10:09:41 AM »
Stefan:

I watched it again and here's what I think he's saying.

At around 6.30 into the video he's giving us a current measurement of 4.48A consumed at the back emf output (hair dryer) and a input current measured at the battery or filtered caps. of 3.57 A - both the voltages are normalized to around 50V (input and output). So, this is O.U


Where did he say, he is using only 50 Volts of battery voltage ?
To my understanding he wanted to have half of the battery voltage at the output,
so I guess he still used his full 96 Volts from all the batteries in Series.

Too bad, it seems he has again deleted all his videos.
So we can no longer have a closer look at them.
Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #299 on: May 08, 2009, 08:50:19 PM »
New vid