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Author Topic: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?  (Read 124026 times)

Offline Ergo

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #405 on: May 14, 2009, 11:26:39 PM »
I'm back Tommey.
This time I have drawn a test setup proposal.
Using your oscilloscope and series shunt resistors will give you accurate readings.
I really hope you follow my test guideline. It will show us all whats going on here.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #406 on: May 15, 2009, 12:08:51 AM »
I'm back Tommey.
This time I have drawn a test setup proposal.
Using your oscilloscope and series shunt resistors will give you accurate readings.
I really hope you follow my test guideline. It will show us all whats going on here.
If you are so educated,performed it ...
If you are so PROFESSIONAL as you said,you have all the equipement??DIDN`T YOU.
The JOKE is going too far.
If you want to participate in this interesting discovery....Thats fine!!
But don`t make other ridiculous with your presumptions..
You don`t judge someone with the clothes he wear....
I ask you to read this forum for a while,just to see where it goes???
Don`t reply to this message untill you have think about what i said...

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #407 on: May 15, 2009, 12:17:39 AM »
I see what your testing will show, but first let me say that one tests that gotoluc did on this pulse generator was good enough with everyone, and it prove that I had a big waste of energy.
Everyone jump with joy when his video came out, I am getting the idea that maybe all this talk is wasting my time.
I had to show that capacitor test did'nt hold water when using them as a calculation of OU, in fact if you charge one up and drain it in to another cap you have wasted energy.
I even tried more test today having lightbulbs as to show how much energy was being used and how much energy was being made.
Everyone said I told you so, no OU.

The second lightbulb test showed the opposit at lower pwm rate and higher frequency, and yet nobody commented on that one.
Even the capacitor tests I did did show greater storage when both capacitor where balanced then what a battery charge capacitor could do.
Nobody would comment, and yet when gotoluc did these test everone had to put there two cents in.
I think its time for other to build this and test it them selfs.
I feel my time has been wasted,and yet none of you have really made this simple circut that I gave to all to find your own answers.

I will see what parts I have left to do the higher amp load test again, my bigger mosfet power board blown last time, I was testing the 120v battery pack running the 10kw generator.

Tom.



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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #407 on: May 15, 2009, 12:17:39 AM »
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Offline Tommey Reed

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #408 on: May 15, 2009, 12:34:16 AM »
I really don't want us to get out of control, But some things I know very little about. Its seem that everyone has a higher degree then I do. As a high school drop out, I had to go and work to help my family out and buy my own things i needed, because we where poor.
But that my past, as for know I do listen and hear what people say.
Its hard to say OVERUNITY, but every test I have done with no back ground in schooling is showing higher output then input at different testing stage.
I have no problem if I'm wrong, but nobody has really prove it yet.
Not to bash gotoluc, but I did show his calculation was off when using capacitor to disprove the output.

Tom...
 

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #409 on: May 15, 2009, 12:35:40 AM »
Hi Tommey,
regarding this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoLQFeU4rV4

Hi Tommey,
what is the coil´s DC  resistance of the transformer ?
in the input site you have a series circuit
of the bulb PLUS resistance of the coil,
so the power is parted between the bulb and the coil.
If you put in 1 Watts to the input bulb and 5 Watts into the coil=6 Watts
of total input power and getting 3 Watts out of the output bulb your circuit is still not overunity.

I don´t want to bring you down, but this is the way I have seen it in my earlier experiments with these types of circuits.
You really have to start using your scope for the measurements..Only it can tell you, what is going on...
Keep at it. You will get it !
Good luck !
Regards, Stefan.

P.S. Have not had time to watch the newer videos,will do soon.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #409 on: May 15, 2009, 12:35:40 AM »
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Offline chrisC

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #410 on: May 15, 2009, 01:55:47 AM »
I really don't want us to get out of control, But some things I know very little about. Its seem that everyone has a higher degree then I do. As a high school drop out, I had to go and work to help my family out and buy my own things i needed, because we where poor.
But that my past, as for know I do listen and hear what people say.
Its hard to say OVERUNITY, but every test I have done with no back ground in schooling is showing higher output then input at different testing stage.
I have no problem if I'm wrong, but nobody has really prove it yet.
Not to bash gotoluc, but I did show his calculation was off when using capacitor to disprove the output.

Tom...

Hi Tom:

Let me assure you NOBODY knows everything except almighty God and the 'wise' are really foolish! (1 Corinthians 1:27).
You've been trying to do good stuff and please do continue. Good people like you are honest and try their best to make the world a better place. You may not know everything but at least you're prepared to learn and you've come a long way from not being schooled like some of these 'degreed' people who can only point fingers! I'm sorry I currently don't have time to follow your project.

cheers
chrisC

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #411 on: May 15, 2009, 02:20:07 AM »

Tommy,

You are certainly not wasting your time here...I and many more have been inspired by what you are doing.

I'm not qualified to determine whether your circuit is OU, but I hope you are right...nevertheless you just never know what your work will lead to, rolling around in a fertile mind.

I would stick mainly to instructing though...debating wears on you after a while.


Regards...


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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #411 on: May 15, 2009, 02:20:07 AM »
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #412 on: May 15, 2009, 04:16:23 AM »
Not to bash gotoluc, but I did show his calculation was off when using capacitor to disprove the output.

Tom...
Hi Tommey,

please do understand that my video was not to discredit your research in any way as I am also a high school dropout at 16 and worked my way through life. I'm now 47 and 2 weeks ago became a grand father to my sons newborn son.
For the past 2 years I have been working full time in research to alternative Free Energy solution with zero income. For the past year I have experimenting with what you are doing now and I still cannot claim Over Unity :-[

My video was to help you and show a different way to calculate energy in and out.
You now understand it but you still need to understand the correct way to calculate capacitor energy. I also thought I had reached Over Unity last year until someone posted that I was not calculating it correctly.

Here is a great online capacitor energy calculator: http://www.electronics2000.co.uk/calc/capacitor-charge-calculator.php

23,000uf at 12.3vdc = 1.74 Joule energy

23,000uf at 6.6vdc = .500 Joule energy X 2 = 1 Joule

To reach Unity you would need both caps to be at 8.70vdc = .870 Joule X 2 = 1.74

I hope this can help you :) I also hope you keep up this great research as we need more of us working together at real testing like you are doing to find the best answers.

Luc

« Last Edit: May 15, 2009, 05:12:54 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #413 on: May 15, 2009, 06:12:49 AM »
What I do understand is when I showed everyone that when you charge a capacitor with a battery and use that charge cap to charge another cap with the same rating, there is a lost of energy.
When I showed the test with my pulse generator using the capacitor as the battery to charge the other cap, It show more energy then the battery test.
I have come to this point that Its a waste of my time to comment any more...........
I have disprove the capacitor test and now people are saying its not 600% overyunity, and yet buy charging the caps to get higher readings then a basic battery test , this means nothing?
You people wont even aprove 110% effieiency if it was in your face, so Its time to move away from the so called OU group!
I will stop wasting your time, I know I'm not the first to leave.........

I have better things to do then sit on my butt and talk trash........



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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #413 on: May 15, 2009, 06:12:49 AM »
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #414 on: May 15, 2009, 08:03:08 AM »
Here's another one for Tommey and Gotoluc. How to truly measure efficiency.

In Gotoluc's lamp test video he didn't consider the effect of wattage, which is voltage times current.
 
The output lamp was brighter, yes that's a fact, but current alone does not show true power.
The output was a steady 1.88 Volts at unknown current that lit the lamp.
If we assume there was 100mA of output currents this equals to 0.1A * 1.88V = 0.188 watts.
This is a pretty good estimate considering how weak the lamp was lit.

The input lamp was not lit, BUT there was 12.34V available from the battery. That's a lot more than 1.88V
Due to the lamp not being lit we know the input currents to be less than the output currents.
If we assume there was 20mA of input currents this equals to 0.02A * 12.34V = 0.2468 watts.

The efficiency: 0.188W / 0.2468W = 0.76%. (My estimate actually matches the efficiency of iron very well)

In this simple case it shows you that you can't use series connected lamps as a measurement tool.
When taking measurements you need to take voltage x currents in calculation. That gives you wattage.
The input lamp was not lit, but the total power input was higher due to you having a high input voltage.
Don't forget. Voltage x Current = Watts. This is crucial to understand.
Always take measurements in Wattage or Joules when checking a system. A Joule is one watt-second.
Or else you'll get erroneous results and become fooled or perhaps even ridiculed in the process.


« Last Edit: May 15, 2009, 03:19:54 PM by Ergo »

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #415 on: May 15, 2009, 02:23:41 PM »
Yes, excellent post Ergo. I did pass on similar information to Gotoluc in a private message about a week ago.

Tommy, again there is a slight lack of knowledge regarding capacitor energy transfer that is leading you to draw the wrong conclusion. This is perhaps a good time to re-post the link to my document showing these type of experiments and what goes on in them. I suggest you read it.

Capacitor Energy Transfer Experiments v1.0:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=209

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #415 on: May 15, 2009, 02:23:41 PM »
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #416 on: May 15, 2009, 03:18:51 PM »
Yes, excellent post Ergo.

Thank you very much. It's always nice to get positive feedback from a qualified person.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #417 on: May 15, 2009, 07:08:58 PM »
Ok I did all of the calculation with capacitors and other test, trusting meters for the answers.
I will say that I was wrong to think it was OU.
I did learn many things, and the most important one was never jump the gun untill all the facts are in.
My mistakes, and I'm man enough to say that.
Being thats is the out come, I will still search other ways to get OU.
It was a dog fight and nobody got hurt, lets move on and I will see if I can get any more energy out of using new this circut design.
But next time I will have all the facts.
Tom.

Offline Ergo

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #418 on: May 15, 2009, 07:25:58 PM »
Yes, that's the spirit. Good going.
Getting back into the sadel with some fresh knowledge in hand.
Now you have raised the chances of discovering something of importance.

I wish you the best of luck. / Ergo

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #419 on: May 16, 2009, 12:15:25 AM »
Ok I did all of the calculation with capacitors and other test, trusting meters for the answers.
I will say that I was wrong to think it was OU.
I did learn many things, and the most important one was never jump the gun untill all the facts are in.
My mistakes, and I'm man enough to say that.
Being thats is the out come, I will still search other ways to get OU.
It was a dog fight and nobody got hurt, lets move on and I will see if I can get any more energy out of using new this circut design.
But next time I will have all the facts.
Tom.

Wow, such honesty, I respect you for that Tommey.
It shows you are a real man!

 

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