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Author Topic: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?  (Read 124868 times)

Offline Tommey Reed

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #315 on: May 10, 2009, 05:19:05 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o7ARCGeLps

This is it.....

Yes Cat, anyone can use my videos.
Its free..............
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #316 on: May 10, 2009, 05:44:47 PM »
Well done Tommey
If everybody had there heart in the right place,like you, we are bound to get there!!!
peter

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #317 on: May 10, 2009, 06:22:19 PM »
It's amazing how this scenario plays out time and time again, especially when several members here have been present for many of the past similar scenarios involving claimed overunity from "BEMF".

Was nothing learned from these past lessons? Be assured that this circuit is no different, and so will be the results if and when they are ever measured or tested properly.

@all: Do some research on this site and see for yourself the number of times this has been attempted and the final outcome of each. Learn from the past, teach those that folly, and move forward.

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.99

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #318 on: May 10, 2009, 06:32:51 PM »
Hi .99
I agree with you,I was just commenting on Tommey's approach.
I don't think BEMF alone will get us anywhere,but with something else, maybe.
peter

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #319 on: May 10, 2009, 09:02:07 PM »
It's amazing how this scenario plays out time and time again, especially when several members here have been present for many of the past similar scenarios involving claimed overunity from "BEMF".

Was nothing learned from these past lessons? Be assured that this circuit is no different, and so will be the results if and when they are ever measured or tested properly.

@all: Do some research on this site and see for yourself the number of times this has been attempted and the final outcome of each. Learn from the past, teach those that folly, and move forward.

Regards,
.99

@ poynt99

Although I somewhat agree with what you're saying I don't think it's safe to say that it can never be realized, we just haven't seen it succeed by replication yet.

Take for instance, the WO1999038247 patent for HARNESSING A BACK EMF, as patents go you are usually left with more questions than answers as far as components used. 

Even if the patent is granted such as this one, and even if it states that "The net effect is that the workload exceeds the depletion rate of the source" there is no way to validate this because of all the missing information.  I'm still wondering why the patent offices grant inventors patent rights when it should be replicated and validated by the scientific community first!!!???  I find patents to be more like a pie in the sky idea rather than physical proof (sort of like intellectual property rights) otherwise this world would be full of OU devices don't you think?

I also think that part of the problem is that there isn't any data provided that follows a definite measurement protocol which is probably only available to Labs or Universities that have proper measuring equipment and knowledgeable personnel to carry out these tests.  Another problem is in replications where it's hard to get the exact same test components and materials as well as proper measuring equipment being that most people are probably not equipped with such things. 

Anyways sorry for the rant, I guess I'm lamenting on my own shortcomings and wished there was a better way to find the truth to all these but in the end most of the great inventions do come from people who get a Eureka moment whether skilled in the art or not.

As such I wish Tommey the very best in his endeavors and hope he comes up with something that others may have missed.

Regards,
Paul




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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #320 on: May 10, 2009, 09:08:46 PM »
2 videos from Tommey / OverUnityNow1
 In these videos Tommey talks in detail about his measurements

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h7JeGvE6sE&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVRKMIZIICA&feature=channel_page

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #321 on: May 10, 2009, 09:43:52 PM »
@ poynt99

Although I somewhat agree with what you're saying I don't think it's safe to say that it can never be realized, we just haven't seen it succeed by replication yet.

Take for instance, the WO1999038247 patent for HARNESSING A BACK EMF, as patents go you are usually left with more questions than answers as far as components used. 

Even if the patent is granted such as this one, and even if it states that "The net effect is that the workload exceeds the depletion rate of the source" there is no way to validate this because of all the missing information.  I'm still wondering why the patent offices grant inventors patent rights when it should be replicated and validated by the scientific community first!!!???  I find patents to be more like a pie in the sky idea rather than physical proof (sort of like intellectual property rights) otherwise this world would be full of OU devices don't you think?

I also think that part of the problem is that there isn't any data provided that follows a definite measurement protocol which is probably only available to Labs or Universities that have proper measuring equipment and knowledgeable personnel to carry out these tests.  Another problem is in replications where it's hard to get the exact same test components and materials as well as proper measuring equipment being that most people are probably not equipped with such things. 

Anyways sorry for the rant, I guess I'm lamenting on my own shortcomings and wished there was a better way to find the truth to all these but in the end most of the great inventions do come from people who get a Eureka moment whether skilled in the art or not.

As such I wish Tommey the very best in his endeavors and hope he comes up with something that others may have missed.

Regards,
Paul

Hi paul

Yes, I am sure the Right Brothers were not the first to experiment with wings on their device

cat

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #321 on: May 10, 2009, 09:43:52 PM »
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #322 on: May 10, 2009, 11:11:20 PM »
@ poynt99

Although I somewhat agree with what you're saying I don't think it's safe to say that it can never be realized, we just haven't seen it succeed by replication yet.

To clarify: It won't ever be realized with the specific circuit/method as shown here and in the countless other similar circuits before it. Maybe some other way, such as in the TPU, but not this way. This is good old inductive kickback, and when one understands how it works and what it does, one moves on to other more exotic endeavors... or not.

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I also think that part of the problem is that there isn't any data provided that follows a definite measurement protocol which is probably only available to Labs or Universities that have proper measuring equipment and knowledgeable personnel to carry out these tests.

Regards,
Paul

Proper measurements can be difficult to achieve, but not impossible, even with relatively simple equipment. The first step however in getting accurate data is KNOWING the limitations of cheap meters (they just don't cut it for this kind of research) and KNOWING how to get accurate results etc. The fact that all "discoverers" of BEMF (so far) are oblivious to this exemplifies the fact that this problem will persist.

Yes, protocol SHOULD be established at this forum for such claims. Not having one is the reason this scenario persists, and will continue to do so until the site administrator takes the proper corrective action.

.99

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #323 on: May 11, 2009, 12:42:51 AM »
Thanks poynt99 for your response, all your points were well taken.

If you haven't already looked at the WO1999038247 HARNESSING A BACK EMF patent could you please let me know what you think of it, pie in the sky or otherwise.   

I'd be interested in your or anyone's views of it's information and whether or not it makes sense as far as recovering energy to the point of exceeding the input needed as stated in the patent.

Regards,
Paul


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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #323 on: May 11, 2009, 12:42:51 AM »
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #324 on: May 11, 2009, 01:39:32 AM »
Hey Tommey,

great work. On the last video of yours where you show the math, is the input a constant voltage and current or you are still using the PWM? If you are, would not the measurements shown on the meters be showing only the current of the averaged current of the duty cycle of the PWM? (no pun intended here)

Would be possible that the measurement you show on the input to really be much higher because, lets say the duty cycle is 70% (so 30% percent ON and 70% OFF), your meter will average on that 30% ON  and try its best to see it as if it was a 100% ON therefore showing a much higher discrepancy.

Just asking here, not trying to flame neither to discredit your work. I am learning with you!

Fausto.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2009, 02:19:18 AM by plengo »

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #325 on: May 11, 2009, 01:57:35 AM »
Yes I will show the higher duty cycle, this will allow the constant voltage to show from the pwm.
This will also show that at a higher duty cycle with amps and voltage will show on the meters too across the coil.

Thanks...
Tom

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #326 on: May 11, 2009, 12:16:43 PM »
2 new videos from Tommey / OverUnityNow1

Pulse generator, higher input of the pwm cycle 001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3huifgLke1A&feature=channel_page

Pulse Generator, Higher output then input of energy 001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op4ikOlm3g8&feature=channel_page


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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #327 on: May 11, 2009, 05:57:25 PM »
Tommey Reed's pulse generator is NOT overunity. He told me himself that it only lengthens the time of battery discharge. He won't release the actual PWM nor the actual circuit because then it will be proven to not work. Sorry folks. I couldn't get him to release the actual plans no matter how hard I tried. He just kept changing the subject and talking about other junk that didn't matter (rachet motor etc.)
  Maybe my posting this fact will make him decide to release his actual PWM and all the parts - without doubt, it is technology, but I don't think he understands how to make it work.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #328 on: May 11, 2009, 06:03:53 PM »
Tommey Reed's pulse generator is NOT overunity. He told me himself that it only lengthens the time of battery discharge. He won't release the actual PWM nor the actual circuit because then it will be proven to not work. Sorry folks. I couldn't get him to release the actual plans no matter how hard I tried. He just kept changing the subject and talking about other junk that didn't matter (rachet motor etc.)
  Maybe my posting this fact will make him decide to release his actual PWM and all the parts - without doubt, it is technology, but I don't think he understands how to make it work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REhGoj3lZYs&feature=channel_page

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #329 on: May 11, 2009, 06:19:40 PM »
Mr Brent,
Did you tell them that you have been trying to sell my ideas on energytechnologynow.org
It was you using names like Allen on the blog that was trying to sell my ideas for money.
You are the owner of energytechnologynow.org
I do not have any control over your site, but I do have control over my patents!
I have already taken action to remove my technology from your web site.
You are the scam Mr Brent, are you going to tell everyone that you own energytechnologynow.org.
You have been trying to sell other technology that don't belong to you too.
I have said before that this system works as for what my meters are showing overunity, but you have taken it to make money on my technology.
Anyone can see what you are doing on your web site at: energytechnologynow.org.
I knew you have try to scam me from the beginning on Overunity.com
Its you, that open the web page to make big bucks on someone else labor.
Your the real scam, I have said from the beginng its free.
And it still is.......
Tom

 

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