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Author Topic: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?  (Read 136141 times)

Offline powercat

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #225 on: April 29, 2009, 12:59:16 AM »
Quote on UT from Tommey on latest vid
I found with a amp load that the coil draws about 19.3 amps with 12.5 v.
That says R=IR
R=.65 ohm's for the coil resistance...
.228 ma - .135ma filter and pwm load =
93 ma.
The total voltage going in to the coil is:
E=IR or .093*.65= 61mv.
This is why the motor did not run from the mosfet drain.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #226 on: April 29, 2009, 01:08:28 AM »
55
Pulse Generator, Finding the ohm's in a coil 001
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EuAvC_-eKA&feature=channel_page

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #227 on: April 29, 2009, 01:13:00 AM »
Hi Bolt,
can you please explain this some more ?

What do you mean by

"The system gain is (1.618 * Q of the coil)"  ?

Many thanks.

I did explain this a few post back i post it here again.

The optimal pulse width is 38.2% (Fibo) for this setup. This is where the optimal energy component is in time domain for i/p power versus time. If you go smaller PW then time destroys gains. Too big to 50%+ then power is wasted.

This is why Tommy is seeing 30% better then 50% but he don't know the math behind it.

The system gain is (1.618 * Q of the coil)- System losses.

This is standard book values no magic etheric space dust here. All was shown by JML labs experiments, ARK Research and Bordland labs for longitudinal gain more then 10 years ago and elsewhere its all well published.

So back EMF or forward gain is a stochastic energy gain 1.618 over isotropic minus system losses its OU,  if he can make losses small enough. Load must match perfect resonance to o/p. If you are charging batteries then battery acts as large capacitor. Will change system from OU to non OU states as it charges and discharges and creates resonance changes that must be addressed.

OU is real not dreams you need to know how to find it and use it. Above equations work for Newman, Bedini, coil bangers, and many other coil spiking systems and motors they all work the same on basic book values RF.  and 99.99% of people have no idea what it is even when they build it.

If you want more single stage OU power gain then Q is the easiest thing that can be addressed. Bigger coils, lower losses etc and more advanced use negative entropy looping and multi phase feedback aka TPU etc. So for three phase system its (1.73 * 1.618 * Q) Notice how much gain we have now. This is why RotoVerter system is so efficient. A 7.5 Horse Power 100lb motor will turn at 2800 rpm on just 10 to 15 watts.

Looping is an entire new problem due to impeadance matching networks are usually lossy and kill the last bit of OU.  That is why easier to show i/p power to separate o/p. Not as simple as putting a wire from out to in.

There are other ways which have an inherent much higher intrinsic gain then stochastic gain. Capacitors also have exact same gain same values 1.618. This is how the multi cap switching battery charge discharge system works. I think bedini and Ron Cole did this stuff.

One of these is Nuclear Magnetic Resonance Amplifiers where electron spin energy is MUCH  greater. Also look at magnetic modulation. This is what magnacoaster is doing with his coils.  You can pump iron too into into nuclear resonance. It requires a Tesla mag field though to start  iron and precursor frequencies the iron changes isotopic states!! This creates huge amount of power. Very close links here to TPU. Remember OU is transformation of energy. You change something magnetic to electrical, change isotopic states, crack water by sound or pulsing, change electron spin angles, and thousand other ways there is OU. Look for non reciprocation systems. This is where energy transform is one way only. If you create condition using X power non reciprocal the energy transform event is usually magnitudes higher.

As SM said hi power magnets have nice qualities and requires many bench hours and open mind to unlock huge amounts of power. If Richard Willis found it then ANYONE can find it. Seems no one in that much of a rush though when so many systems are about and very few will try.

Rotoverter is over 10 years old. How about buy yourself 7.5 HP 3 phase motor and it will run on 15 watts. This is OU POWER MACHINE off the shelf for 150 bucks or free from the trash center and its not a kitchen table toy made from a 9 volt battery and a bicycle wheel. Details were fully published on this site about 6 months ago on how to loop it but the guy got a few MIB's in  black SUV's come pay him a visit.

Time is running out. Tick toc tic toc... First wave of lab flu is out 12th hour is here.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #228 on: April 29, 2009, 01:45:46 AM »
I think Tommy getting himself tied up in Knots over these figures. Lets put it really simple.

I have an old TV set with a tube etc. Inside there are all kinds of pulses and drives going on but i want to know how much power my TV is using.  What do i do?

A.     Go through all the circuits and calculate my coils and tube heaters,  PW spacing, EHT transformer and electron flow etc around my circuits.

B.    Get a meter and measure what been drawn at my power socket to the TV.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #229 on: April 29, 2009, 02:41:09 AM »
What do you want to talk about?

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #230 on: April 29, 2009, 02:58:39 AM »
Hello Tommey
Good to see you here

We want to talk about OU and if you have achieved it or not
there are others here who have a better understanding  than me of pulse coil setups
you'll be hearing from them shortly

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #231 on: April 29, 2009, 03:00:59 AM »
Ok, I'll wait......

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #232 on: April 29, 2009, 03:11:54 AM »
Regarding his latest videos:
Hi Tommey,
the current in your coil is defined as:
Icoil= 19.3 amps x ( 1-e^t/ -L / 0.65Ohm)
where
Icoil= current in coil at current time
t= time in seconds
L= inductance in Henry

So the end current after a few seconds will be 19.3 amps,
but if you pulse it only ON for a few mikroseconds, you really have to calculate with the above formula.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RL_circuit


scroll down,where it says:
Impulse Response

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #233 on: April 29, 2009, 03:14:06 AM »


The system gain is (1.618 * Q of the coil)- System losses.

This is standard book values no magic etheric space dust here.


Can you please show the formula behind it ?
Please show a wikipedia quote or simular.


Why has it gain at all ?

Do you mean ENERGY GAIN
or
just Voltage gain ?

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #234 on: April 29, 2009, 03:18:45 AM »
Tommey
 I must say I'm very impressed of the rate you work at and  that you believe in free energy for all

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #235 on: April 29, 2009, 03:21:28 AM »
Hi everyone,

here is a video I made of a replication of Tommey Reed's circuit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4fYvSRxHd0

No Over Unity for me.

I challenge Tommey to do the capacitor test as I have done.


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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #236 on: April 29, 2009, 03:26:58 AM »
Regarding his latest videos:
Hi Tommey,
the current in your coil is defined as:
Icoil= 19.3 amps x ( 1-e^t/ -L / 0.65Ohm)
where
Icoil= current in coil at current time
t= time in seconds
L= inductance in Henry

So the end current after a few seconds will be 19.3 amps,
but if you pulse it only ON for a few mikroseconds, you really have to calculate with the above formula.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RL_circuit


scroll down,where it says:
Impulse Response


It is better shown over here:

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spule_(Elektrotechnik)

Scroll down on the page where it says:

"Zu- und Abschaltvorgänge bei Gleichspannung"

The red curve at the graph is the current inside the coil
and the green curve is the input pulse voltage.

The blue curve is the voltage at the internal resistanceof the coil.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #237 on: April 29, 2009, 03:28:58 AM »
Tommey
 I must say I'm very impressed of the rate you work at and  that you believe in free energy for all

cat

He won't be working at that rate for long if he starts hanging around this forum...Internet in general sucks way too much time away.

Tommey, if that's really you, stay away from this and all other forums - follow your own direction and keep looking forward.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #238 on: April 29, 2009, 03:37:15 AM »
Is your coil, is it .61 ohm 16gage wire?
This is a basic coil out of a microwave oven at 120v ac.



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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #239 on: April 29, 2009, 03:44:04 AM »
I guess it is Tommey... :)

Well anyway, I hope you are not dipping your transformer in water. Instead, find some mineral oil and use it, as it is non-conductive.

Many people dip their whole computer motherboards into mineral oil for extreme overclocking and it works pretty well, plus oil will self heal too.

 

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