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Author Topic: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?  (Read 137451 times)

Offline time_travel01

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #150 on: April 27, 2009, 03:16:27 AM »
hey kewl. i have almost the same thing.... little less bloated

Offline BEP

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #151 on: April 27, 2009, 03:31:44 AM »
Yes, a little less jumping around would be good. I wasn't sure where what reading was being taken most of the time.

So he is taking readings from the battery side of the PWM? And no shunt for amps?

Ok. I'm not excited now   :(

Offline wattsup

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #152 on: April 27, 2009, 04:01:38 AM »
I read a few first pages and came to the end of this thread. Saw some of his videos.

I have been doing this type motor/motor stuff for years now and I don't really buy any of the grabbing of the BEMF from a standard DC motor/generator. It is impossible since the rotor commutator does not have an extra brush. Also, he said there is no permanent magnets so this motor has to have an excitation field and there is no mention of this consumption in the video. Also with such short pulses turning a generator that is dishing out all that wattage, Something is fishy.

What really bugs me is why is that wooden box there at the right side of the right motor. It would be conveniently placed if the right motor had a front and rear shaft extension, one shaft going into that box where he could easily have another motor in there turning the generator hence two motors turning the generator. There is a knocking sound that denotes coupling misalignment or it could come from inside that box.

All those 12vdc car batteries hold a hell of alot of voltage and amperage and you would be surpised how long it takes for it to do down. lol

Now if he would be so kind as to push that wooden box more to the right so we can see the end of the generator, this would help me come to a more agreeable stance.

Actually, I have most everything in hand to try this except for the time. lol

I am not saying this is not real or jumping to conclusions that is the style of many on this forum. I am asking some respectful questions and making some observations. If these observations can be answered, fine, if not, well.

Offline nyctuber

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #153 on: April 27, 2009, 04:24:36 AM »
Wattsup, he did show assembly of the caps in the wood box. Guess that doesn't mean a whole lot but still the video is there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhbwIPqJe3w&feature=channel_page

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #154 on: April 27, 2009, 04:44:35 AM »
I read a few first pages and came to the end of this thread. Saw some of his videos.

I have been doing this type motor/motor stuff for years now and I don't really buy any of the grabbing of the BEMF from a standard DC motor/generator. It is impossible since .....


Well, did you see that video when the mosfets blew because of the amperage? That stuff is real and those big caps will KILL instantly! Maybe with all the stuff you have, I think you should just replicate the back emf logic with those 4007 diodes, single primary coil, and those large filtering caps and the PWM. Even without driving a large motor you can see if just'capturing' the back emf from the coil is real or not? He's not even talking about capturing back emf from the enclosed motor. Perhaps if this is real, it can even help you understand the TPU?

cheers
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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #155 on: April 27, 2009, 05:04:28 AM »
@nyctuber

Thanks for that. With so many videos and lack of time, I appreciate your quick response. I will look into it further.

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #156 on: April 27, 2009, 05:26:47 AM »
@nyctuber

Thanks for that. With so many videos and lack of time, I appreciate your quick response. I will look into it further.

n/p

New video up, guess he's burning the midnight overunity oil  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvq35tKcAOs&feature=channel_page

Offline bearicey

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #157 on: April 27, 2009, 06:45:50 AM »
n/p

New video up, guess he's burning the midnight overunity oil  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvq35tKcAOs&feature=channel_page

PWM  40% ~ 50%  @10khz
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Input   ~  85V   x     3.7 A    x  Duty cycle (40~50%)
Output ~  51V   x      4.9 A
=======================================

Tommey only multiply the Voltage with the percentage of PWM duty cycle on the input side.

Domestic AC runs at 50~60hz, a PWM runs hundreds of times faster at 3~5khz @DC, will this still work for most meters ?
« Last Edit: April 27, 2009, 02:55:44 PM by bearicey »

Offline Groundloop

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #158 on: April 27, 2009, 07:36:15 AM »
Stefan,

Quote: "You forgot to calculate the duty cycle into it."

If you want to calculate the duty cycle on the input then you must also calculate the duty cycle on the output.
So both numbers (input and output) must be divided by 50%. The calculated efficiency number will stay the same.

In one of his videos he describe his method of operation. A coil has four diodes connected and a mosfet switch.
The mosfet switch is controlled by a PWM oscillator. He uses a large capacitor(s) at the input and also a large
capacitor bank at the output.  At the output he connects various loads. He claims that the power collected
from the collapsing field in the coil (channeled to the output via diodes) is greater than the applied power input
to the circuit. To prove his claim he is using digital volt meters and a digital clip on Ampere meter. I have stated
in one of my posts that I doubt the Ampere meter reading to be 100% correct. It all depends on what type of
clip on Ampere meter he is using. If it is measuring AC then the thing he is measuring is the DC ripple on the
wire and not the real DC current flow. I do not know the frequency of his oscillator but if it is higher than 100Hz
then most clip on Ampere meters will not show the correct current.

That said, I still think that Mr. Tommey Reed is doing a very good research.

Regards,
Groundloop.

Offline Mk1

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #159 on: April 27, 2009, 10:48:44 AM »
@all

This is more then plausible , It look like Tesla works tho.

Energy from the vacum , pulse a coil , you will see!

Copper doesn't really like electricity, pushing current will create a push back effect when disconnecting the current , the push back is of greater force then the push. I don't care how you call it.

Test it for yours self ! I did !

With a coil and a 9 v battery , it will light a 120v neon easy, i used a coil from a hair clipper , he used a transformer coil.
With a 9v battery i got peaks of over 1800 v . I tested with the same coil with a cap and a 1.5 volt aa cell , and got over 40v in the cap in one pulse.

People , help your self , please try , the grow !

I pulsed it manually .



 

Offline powercat

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #160 on: April 27, 2009, 12:10:16 PM »
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Pulse Generator, 1500 watt load     [was already posted by nyctuber]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvq35tKcAOs&feature=channel_page

Quote from Tommey on this vid

I found that when you have a battery pack at a total voltage, only allow the pwm to reach half of the total voltage in the battery pack.
This will show OVERUNITY, lower amps in and higher amps out, also with 30%-35% on time.
50% on time of the pwm will show higher voltage then the total half of the battery pack, but will take more amps input with less amps output.

Quote from Tommey on vid 48

Pulse Generator , inventor Tommey Reed
(772) 812-2661
Jensen Beach, Fl.


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Offline bearicey

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #161 on: April 27, 2009, 02:50:34 PM »
@all

This is more then plausible , It look like Tesla works tho.

Energy from the vacum , pulse a coil , you will see!

Copper doesn't really like electricity, pushing current will create a push back effect when disconnecting the current , the push back is of greater force then the push. I don't care how you call it.

Test it for yours self ! I did !

With a coil and a 9 v battery , it will light a 120v neon easy, i used a coil from a hair clipper , he used a transformer coil.
With a 9v battery i got peaks of over 1800 v . I tested with the same coil with a cap and a 1.5 volt aa cell , and got over 40v in the cap in one pulse.

People , help your self , please try , the grow !

I pulsed it manually .
 

Hi, Mk1

How did you "pulsed it manually " ?

What's the frequency you get ?

Maybe you should show us more details, so we can all try it out!

Thanks!

Offline bhaas

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #162 on: April 27, 2009, 02:58:55 PM »
Hi, Mk1

How did you "pulsed it manually " ?

What's the frequency you get ?

Maybe you should show us more details, so we can all try it out!

Thanks!



All he did was was, hook a meter/scope up to a coil, then touched
it with the 9V battery and pulled it off and observed the BIG voltage spike.

Brad

Offline bearicey

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #163 on: April 27, 2009, 03:01:52 PM »

If you want to calculate the duty cycle on the input then you must also calculate the duty cycle on the output.
So both numbers (input and output) must be divided by 50%. The calculated efficiency number will stay the same.


Tommey's reply on Youtube.

Question:
On the output side there is only DC and no pluse at all ?


EnergyTechnologyNow
Answer:

The pulse is there, but the caps are allowing it to stay at a constant voltage.
This is why the voltage goes over 96v, if you look at the video's you will see higher voltage then the battery bank.
Thanks for the question....
« Last Edit: April 27, 2009, 03:29:04 PM by bearicey »

Offline bearicey

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Re: Are Tommey Reed´s pulse motor circuits overunity ?
« Reply #164 on: April 27, 2009, 03:07:19 PM »

All he did was was, hook a meter/scope up to a coil, then touched
it with the 9V battery and pulled it off and observed the BIG voltage spike.

Brad


Do you think the meter reading will be accurate with just one pulse?