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Author Topic: Please, Please, look at this video!  (Read 15140 times)

Butch LaFonte

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Please, Please, look at this video!
« on: April 09, 2009, 05:57:53 AM »
See link >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bULi4j9PGFM
If anyone does not believe this is the real thing you are invited to come to my home and perform the test youself.
Just contact me at lafontegroup@charter.net to set a date and time.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

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Offline Michelinho

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2009, 06:13:16 AM »

Hi Butch,

I use these magnets in my Newman motor and they have 87.6 lb of pull each. No grip enough to pull them apart, I twist them 180 degree to be able to do so. Those are lethal.   ;D

Nice video, take care,

Michel


Offline Philip Hardcastle

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 11:56:25 AM »
Hi Butch,

Saw your video and I accept what I saw.

However before you can make a claim that is worthwhile surely you need to put forward a theory, a model and some data.

You say it is overunity, on what basis do you say so, where are your figures.

I am as you can see someone who has put forward ideas too. Curled Ballistic thermionics and Rotating thermionic generator. Now I have offered a $1,000 prize to anyone who can find a flaw.

There have been no takers!

In fact I have now 4 professors and a handfull of engineers that agree with me but still no body is taking any interest.

What excites this community is a video of something working and to be frank showing the modifiaction of attraction between 2 magnets proves nothing.

You on the other hand simply say you believe. I think that is not nearly enough to get debate going.

I am only too happy to debate this with you to stimulate things if you want to put forward data and proper theory.

Regards

Phil

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 11:56:25 AM »
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Offline broli

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2009, 12:13:38 PM »
Phil that is why this community is perverted. You show them the concept step by step and it's not enough they want to see the end result...but ironically when they do they want to see the concept step by step or they will call you a fake.

So in the end you either contribute with your own skills (which is something very rare on this forum) or you don't contribute with anything at all. That's how fast progress is made.

Butch we'll get there. The concept has been proven many times only need some machines to build a fully fledged motor  ;D.

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 05:56:03 PM »
Hi Butch,

Saw your video and I accept what I saw.

However before you can make a claim that is worthwhile surely you need to put forward a theory, a model and some data.

You say it is overunity, on what basis do you say so, where are your figures.

I am as you can see someone who has put forward ideas too. Curled Ballistic thermionics and Rotating thermionic generator. Now I have offered a $1,000 prize to anyone who can find a flaw.

There have been no takers!

In fact I have now 4 professors and a handfull of engineers that agree with me but still no body is taking any interest.

What excites this community is a video of something working and to be frank showing the modification of attraction between 2 magnets proves nothing.

You on the other hand simply say you believe. I think that is not nearly enough to get debate going.

I am only too happy to debate this with you to stimulate things if you want to put forward data and proper theory.

Regards

Phil
Phil,
The public will only accept a self runner as proof and I don't blame them at all. That is what it will take to prove to the public and to myself that what I think is fact.
If I get a self runner my home will be open to all that want to come by and see it running.
So the next step is not to debate, but to build a self runner. At this time I am just keeping the public up to date with our progress and hopes. But don't worry I'm not going to start selling plans. I would and will give plans away for free should anyone want them.
Regards,
Butch

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 05:56:03 PM »
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Butch LaFonte

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 06:02:26 PM »
Hi Butch,

I use these magnets in my Newman motor and they have 87.6 lb of pull each. No grip enough to pull them apart, I twist them 180 degree to be able to do so. Those are lethal.   ;D

Nice video, take care,

Michel


Michel,
I love this work, but I hate handling those large NIB magnets. I can't imagine working with NIB magnets much larger.
Thanks for your support,
Butch

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2009, 06:15:07 PM »
Butch, why not apply that old piston design on this one. Here's a video for this concept;

http://ziosproject.com/NJ/exvid55.avi

Someone in the group should seriously spend some in their machine shop on this. What's the point of free energy if we don't help each other achieve it.

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
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Offline lostcauses10x

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2009, 06:33:10 PM »
Were is measurement and data.  Again you make claims with out it. How long have you been doing this? You should know that such is always needed when you say it is OU. 

You just show a lot of mass in motion, and a hell of a lot more work to get your bars into position to prove your point than you will get in that short amount of work you show with the magnets coming together.

 It still is a work in to work out thing.

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 06:35:42 PM »
Butch, why not apply that old piston design on this one. Here's a video for this concept;

http://ziosproject.com/NJ/exvid55.avi

Someone in the group should seriously spend some in their machine shop on this. What's the point of free energy if we don't help each other achieve it.
Broli,
I like that configuration, maybe its my internal combustion engine background that makes it appeal to me. Can you imagine if those magnets were 6" diameter NIB grade 50. Your right, people need to start working with this. There is enough torque available to pull a train.
Butch

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2009, 06:35:42 PM »
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Offline broli

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2009, 07:00:42 PM »
Were is measurement and data.  Again you make claims with out it. How long have you been doing this? You should know that such is always needed when you say it is OU. 

You just show a lot of mass in motion, and a hell of a lot more work to get your bars into position to prove your point than you will get in that short amount of work you show with the magnets coming together.

 It still is a work in to work out thing.

I keep saying this. RESEARCH! It's people like you who will never change their attitudes. When all the data and measurements are shown you don't go "oh yes now I'm with you", no your tremendously ignorant ego will block this reaction. No matter what is shown or proven you will always disapprove. The fact you made this post proves it or else you would have informed yourself better. Be happy that you got a reaction at all from someone.

Offline chrisC

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 07:05:31 PM »
Butch, why not apply that old piston design on this one. Here's a video for this concept;

http://ziosproject.com/NJ/exvid55.avi

Someone in the group should seriously spend some in their machine shop on this. What's the point of free energy if we don't help each other achieve it.

Thanks Broli. That was a nice animation showing the concept clearly. Do you know of whether there are YouTube videos or others out there? Thanks again

cheers
chrisC

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2009, 07:05:31 PM »
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Butch LaFonte

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Proof balance systems supports overunity at this point in project
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2009, 10:24:40 PM »
Were is measurement and data.  Again you make claims with out it. How long have you been doing this? You should know that such is always needed when you say it is OU. 

You just show a lot of mass in motion, and a hell of a lot more work to get your bars into position to prove your point than you will get in that short amount of work you show with the magnets coming together.

 It still is a work in to work out thing.
See this new video > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LOkMsh9dqk

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2009, 10:43:32 PM »
See link >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bULi4j9PGFM
If anyone does not believe this is the real thing you are invited to come to my home and perform the test youself.
Just contact me at lafontegroup@charter.net to set a date and time.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte
The two steel bars you have there will make it easier to pull the magnets apart. But it require a lot of force to pull those steel bars apart from the magnets too.

The only thing that has happen here is that the magnetic flux is getting "busy" with the steel bar instead of the fields from the other magnet. You have only moved the force. As there is the same number of magnetic lines with or without the steel bars, there is no net change in force taking place. This experiment also shows how a magnetic shield fails to work as desired, as the magnetic flux is allways accounted for, and are affected by all including magnets in the system accordingly. What I mean is that a shield does not only affect the shielded magnet, but also other magnets in the system.

Therefor I cannot see this as something new or undiscovered properties of steel and magnets. They behave as they should taking the system into account.

br.

Vidar

Butch LaFonte

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Re: Please, Please, look at this video!
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2009, 10:48:09 PM »
The two steel bars you have there will make it easier to pull the magnets apart. But it require a lot of force to pull those steel bars apart from the magnets too.

The only thing that has happen here is that the magnetic flux is getting "busy" with the steel bar instead of the fields from the other magnet. You have only moved the force. As there is the same number of magnetic lines with or without the steel bars, there is no net change in force taking place. This experiment also shows how a magnetic shield fails to work as desired, as the magnetic flux is allways accounted for, and are affected by all including magnets in the system accordingly. What I mean is that a shield does not only affect the shielded magnet, but also other magnets in the system.

Therefor I cannot see this as something new or undiscovered properties of steel and magnets. They behave as they should taking the system into account.

br.

Vidar
I believe you are wrong on every point, but thanks again for the input.
Regards,
Butch

 

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