Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding

User Menu

Custom Search

Author Topic: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion  (Read 168657 times)

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #285 on: May 14, 2009, 03:25:43 AM »
And another replicator!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWwTJ2iqzM

This researcher will definitely be the first genuine MyLOW motor replicator. I can't hold a candle to this codger.
RESPECT!!
 ;D

BEP

  • TPU-Elite
  • Hero Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 1289
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #286 on: May 14, 2009, 03:35:33 AM »
This researcher will definitely be the first genuine MyLOW motor replicator. I can't hold a candle to this codger.
RESPECT!!
 ;D

I think open flame may be a bad idea there  :o

0c

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 278
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #287 on: May 14, 2009, 03:36:51 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWwTJ2iqzM

This researcher will definitely be the first genuine MyLOW motor replicator. I can't hold a candle to this codger.
RESPECT!!
 ;D

Looks a lot like the kind of work I have done.  :'(

dixiepnum

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 76
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #288 on: May 14, 2009, 05:07:44 AM »
@TK...

okay....you know more than me about electricity...and you have ages more experience with this stuff than I do...

if this thing was pushing an 10 pound disc for 24 hours straight at 120rpm, how much electrical energy could you store, and how long would that energy keep a 60w lightbulb lit?

I know this question is full of holes, so fill in the assumptions and make an estimate...

for the education us regular folks...

 ;)

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #289 on: May 14, 2009, 05:45:31 AM »
@TK...

okay....you know more than me about electricity...and you have ages more experience with this stuff than I do...

if this thing was pushing an 10 pound disc for 24 hours straight at 120rpm, how much electrical energy could you store, and how long would that energy keep a 60w lightbulb lit?

I know this question is full of holes, so fill in the assumptions and make an estimate...

for the education us regular folks...

 ;)

Hmm--well, I do have some numbers. With my motor drive as shown, using that little tape drive motor, which is a brush-type DC motor with little centrifugal limiters on the armature, it draws about 160 milliAmps while running at about 120 RPM, a bit more when accelerating. And with a different motor and drive system, more like what I believe M. is using, I can cut the draw down to under 100 milliAmps. My disk and magnets weighs between 4 and 5 kilos depending on how many magnets are on it. Now, when I load that disk with the same kind of motor as a generator, I can light up a LED Joule Thief with about 20 milliamps, and the disk slows to 80 RPM or so. So figure 20 milliamps at 2 volts or so for 24 hours, into a cap bank, that's 40 milliwatt-seconds for 24 hours, that's 3456 Joules, which isn't a lot.
Er, what was the question again? Oh, yeah...the answer is not much, and not very long. About 57 seconds for the 60 watt light bulb, if I haven't dropped a decimal somewhere and assuming no losses and perfect conversions. Does that agree with your figures?

But that's not the major feature of this motor. It is creating its momentum from nothing. (The rotor is being pushed along without pushing back on the stator mount.) There are many more useful ways to use that momentum than just extracting electricity from it.

Too bad it isn't really doing it.

dixiepnum

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 76
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #290 on: May 14, 2009, 06:12:28 AM »
@TK

"There are many more useful ways to use that momentum than just extracting electricity from it."

so let's qualify the top 10 ways we can use this machine to get us off oil....

(besides, its a good way to calm you down and get stefan off your back)...

 :)

AnandAadhar

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 169
    • The Order of Time
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #291 on: May 14, 2009, 10:21:53 AM »
What the two Mylows  now are demonstrating is absolutely amazing: a smot with only six unevenly spaced bars leads to full rotation and accelleration of Stirlings rig!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_KQ8tldXnY&feature=channel_page

I posted the following comments at this mylow video page

"You say the spacing is different, with a different gap. How did you arrive at that difference? You do not demonstrate this. Just glue it without even precisely pointing at the center? But this is truly amazing, I don't believe what i see. You two Mylows are even doubling the amazement with this smot-demo of only six! I believe now it to be real, but am at a loss trying to replicate it. It must be my material. I'll keep trying and will post as soon as I have a working copy."

"An explanation for why it doesnt work with others is that the earth's magnetic field is not equal everywhere. Maybe you're on a vortex point of the earth's magnetism somehow.. So a similar device in the neighbourhood should also work. Does it also work outside? Please show some experimenting with this possible location effect."

"Another explanation is a high voltage powerline outside or under your house...therefore please try this at other locations, or send this to Sterling to see whether is also works at his place. It is his rig isn't it?"

At the videopage before this one where he shows the glueing strategy, I posted this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2SafNL6yqg&feature=channel_page

Indeed you are building a time machine, a kind of clock..... I have video's of my own replication, but don't load them, because I don't meet your demands. Getting the right material is a problem. My magnets are those small ones you have stacked six together like a bar, and my plate is 75 cm and of zinc (permeability half of that of u-metal, but better than aluminum). I achieved two full rotations tops with the spacing you suggest, letting go by hand, but it always cogs. Whatever I try.

So has anyone a reasonable explanation of this miracle at Mylow's?

AbbaRue

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 587
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #292 on: May 14, 2009, 09:45:55 PM »
@Wattsup
The video on The Sweet's Vacuum Triode Amplifier (VTA)
is here:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2973947177397458172&ei=mVDuScHDLqCI-gGNuoyCBA&q=Floyd+Sweet+VTA&hl=en

32 min. into the video he explains programming the magnets.


If you google it you can find out alot more details.

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #293 on: May 15, 2009, 01:44:28 AM »
@TK

"There are many more useful ways to use that momentum than just extracting electricity from it."

so let's qualify the top 10 ways we can use this machine to get us off oil....

(besides, its a good way to calm you down and get stefan off your back)...

 :)

You make a bunch of little ones and use their momentum to turn a much bigger flywheel. You just let that big flywheel spin up. With the appropriate transmission you can store all the momentum that a mylow wheel creates for free, over a long period of time. Then you can draw it off to run buses or even generators.
You can build little ones into reactionless wrenches.
You can use the free momentum instead of thrusters for attitude control in your interplanetary spacecraft.
You can dribble reaction mass like water down the axle, and it will be thrown off tangentially, and surely here there will be a reaction, hence you now have a thruster that needs no power, only reaction mass.
And so forth and so on.

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #294 on: May 15, 2009, 01:46:09 AM »
(snip)
So has anyone a reasonable explanation of this miracle at Mylow's?

I do! I do!
(jumps up and down waving his hand in the air)

But I'm afraid you've already heard it.

Omega_0

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 437
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #295 on: May 15, 2009, 08:22:11 AM »
As you guys already know:

Rotor mag outer spacing = 9 mm (average)
Rotor mag inner spacing = 6 mm (average)

Stator mag spacing(along width) = 7.12 mm
Stator mag spacing(pole to pole) = 2.35 mm

Stator height = ?

AnandAadhar

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 169
    • The Order of Time
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #296 on: May 15, 2009, 09:44:33 AM »
Mylow responds to honest posting at YouTube:

Me (see also my previous posting):
The stator might have to trigger that effect from a high voltage wire outside...we don't know, we are flabbergasted. Mylow tells his brother: you tell it, you are the expert, but there are no experts in magnetic motors. Johnson is dead and the rest is either nerd, too theoretical, or not to replicate either, like with Perendev and the miraculous 'screw' motor. What can we do but keep trying and thank Mylow for taking the trouble to show us? That is what I do....

magneticmotor1:
play with the magnets under the stator and you will see what i mean.

thats going to be my next project.

yes your right it is but with larger magnet and more powerfull colbolt type it my run for a longer time.

i think it will slow down and keep that speed.

Me again:
A zinc plate works also. I have a selfsustained movement with heavier stators, but only as yet when I hold two stators extra by hand. I use 4 above a plate with six groups of five magnet bar assemblies. I have to use an uneven number though to use two stator sets alternatingly. All I have is the very small magnets. I assemble everything, stators, rotors like lego with them. Gives a lot of freedom to try. I am close to the selfstarter and will post my movie upon success. But not as long as I fail.

This is my position now. Holding by hand two extra stators to a double paired assembly with six groups of five bars on a 75 cm zinc covered plate of non-magnetic material, makes selfsustained movement possible in my case. Within a couple of days I will be regrouping the rotor magnets for seven groups, and maybe then it will work of a fixed stator assembly too. I have good hopes but no definitive experimental proof of OU by HJ-Mylow replication yet. As Mylow says, you have to believe in it and be ingenius, because each other type of material one uses demands a different configuration. I hope to post  my series of videos about this project soon (i keep a video log of the proccess)

AA

I changed my mind and have loaded a preliminary replication movie of what I am doing. Mylow specifically asked for it. so here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAhe1nX0HLM

« Last Edit: May 15, 2009, 01:32:36 PM by AnandAadhar »

TinselKoala

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13958
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #297 on: May 15, 2009, 03:08:09 PM »
The key words being, of course, "holding by hand."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXpEqoDJDbM

Omega_0

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 437
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #298 on: May 15, 2009, 03:50:41 PM »
Empire of motion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBkdgMQj0-4

Never saw a girl doing OU stuff before ;)

RunningBare

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 809
Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #299 on: May 15, 2009, 03:54:36 PM »
Mylow responds to honest posting at YouTube:

No he does NOT, I put honest criticism in comments, none of them have ever shown, he is very very selective in what he choose to allow, 99% support for him, I say 99% because sometimes he thinks I better let criticism show or it's going to look bad with 100% support only.