Author Topic: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion (Read 169511 times)

TinselKoala · « **Reply #270 on:** May 13, 2009, 05:13:50 PM »

Quote from: Cloxxki on May 13, 2009, 05:06:27 PM

Won't you look silly if first you've tried and failed, then questioned Mylow's tutoring skills, before indeed successful replications do start pouring in?
Why not stay open for the option that some guru out there has a really good feel for something, and that his skills can to some degree be transferred on others? At least the guy has been trying persistently for a long time.

Yep, I'll look sooo silly, just like I did with Archer Quinn, Mondrasek, and the recent LTSpice OU threads that have vanished down the memory hole.
A thousand dollars silly, in fact, if Mylow will just have 2 scientists or engineers confirm his device. I don't even need no replications--just reputations. Then I'll look as silly as you want.
But until then, since you are seeming to accept the impossible without ANY confirmation, or even data that hints at confirmation, I think you are the one who is looking silly. But who am I to say--maybe you've been trying persistently for a long time too, Cloxxki, and maybe you have some real data to share, like I do...or maybe not.

nyctuber · « **Reply #271 on:** May 13, 2009, 05:23:50 PM »

TK, you have the rig, why not slap on the magnets Mylow is using in the latest videos. They're cheap, and he's even divulged the spacing ratios. I'd like to see if you get the same swinging effect he shows with 2 rotors. If you don't see that right away, it would certainly add to the mystery.

Cloxxki · « **Reply #272 on:** May 13, 2009, 05:24:45 PM »

I'm not certain, but open. I've always thought it to be possible, just difficult.
I am hoping, not knowing, this guy's got it, and just giving us all the worse possible time over it.
If he's for real, it won't even easy to do this with the guru himself standing next to you. I bet every magnet is different, and needs to be treated as individual, like a good sports team.
We'll see. At least it's entertaining.

TinselKoala · « **Reply #273 on:** May 13, 2009, 06:12:29 PM »

Quote from: nyctuber on May 13, 2009, 05:23:50 PM

TK, you have the rig, why not slap on the magnets Mylow is using in the latest videos. They're cheap, and he's even divulged the spacing ratios. I'd like to see if you get the same swinging effect he shows with 2 rotors. If you don't see that right away, it would certainly add to the mystery.

I think I will.
But how much do you want to bet, that my version won't work, and will only show a decrease in run time with the stators present, like all my other configs have shown? I just don't have the "MyLOW Touch", I know that already.
Of course, if I CAN get it to work, I'll be instantly rich--because I know the value of such a device--and I doubt if you'll be hearing from me any more. I certainly wouldn't be wasting time putting up YT videos. I'd be talking to my friends at NASA Ames, and calling up Marc Millis with the solution to some of his major problems...
$:-\$

Quote from: Cloxxki on May 13, 2009, 05:24:45 PM

I'm not certain, but open. I've always thought it to be possible, just difficult.
I am hoping, not knowing, this guy's got it, and just giving us all the worse possible time over it.
If he's for real, it won't even easy to do this with the guru himself standing next to you. I bet every magnet is different, and needs to be treated as individual, like a good sports team.
We'll see. At least it's entertaining.

Fair enough. At least you will admit to a trace of doubt. And yes, it certainly is entertaining.
I'm open too, but I'd like to see proof. And what proof I've seen so far in this story has convinced me of a few things.

nyctuber · « **Reply #274 on:** May 13, 2009, 06:23:17 PM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on May 13, 2009, 06:12:29 PM

I think I will.
But how much do you want to bet, that my version won't work, and will only show a decrease in run time with the stators present, like all my other configs have shown? I just don't have the "MyLOW Touch", I know that already.
Of course, if I CAN get it to work, I'll be instantly rich--because I know the value of such a device--and I doubt if you'll be hearing from me any more. I certainly wouldn't be wasting time putting up YT videos. I'd be talking to my friends at NASA Ames, and calling up Marc Millis with the solution to some of his major problems...
$:-\$

If you don't see that swinging almost immediately, I would say something is very odd.

Cloxxki · « **Reply #275 on:** May 13, 2009, 06:32:34 PM »

Instant rich?
1W useful output per 2lb of machinery perhaps?
Did anyone calculate the power needed to reach such rpm's in that way? I bet your breathe is hardly any weaker.
If Mylow would sell his (when proven) setups, stator assembly firmly locked in place, that might get some dollar. Each next unit less, though.

markdansie · « **Reply #276 on:** May 13, 2009, 07:32:16 PM »

What a cop out

" I just got off the phone with Mylow.
He's out working right now.
From his description, he definitely has acceleration with just 6 magnets. He said after four magnets, he started noticing something "weird", and even with five magnets, it pulled in, thrust past the stator, and made it all the way around to do it again. With six magnets, it was accelerating until the assembly was shaking to the point that he stopped it lest it be damaged or fall apart.

It kind of has him freaked out, and he's hesitant to post a video showing it. He's concerned about the ramifications of this hitting the planet and the disruption it might cause. I reminded him that whenever a new technology is introduced, there will be some down sides, but that the benefits outweigh the potential problems. Every car that is sold carries with it the possibility of killing its occupants. But the benefits of transportation far outweigh the potential risks.

He's also concerned about his personal life. He enjoys his simple life, and doesn't necessarily savor the idea of being thrust into the limelight.

He thinks of all those guys who have been working on things like this over the years, but to no avail. I would think they would be grateful to see something actually working, vindicating what they were pursuing. Yes, there might be some jealously, wishing they had been first, but overall there will a sense of collective accomplishment, and a thrill for the future as this technology is characterized, optimized,and implemented into practical embodiments."

Quote from Sterling

nyctuber · « **Reply #277 on:** May 13, 2009, 07:39:50 PM »

Quote from: markdansie on May 13, 2009, 07:32:16 PM

What a cop out

" I just got off the phone with Mylow.
He's out working right now.
From his description, he definitely has acceleration with just 6 magnets. He said after four magnets, he started noticing something "weird", and even with five magnets, it pulled in, thrust past the stator, and made it all the way around to do it again. With six magnets, it was accelerating until the assembly was shaking to the point that he stopped it lest it be damaged or fall apart.

It kind of has him freaked out, and he's hesitant to post a video showing it. He's concerned about the ramifications of this hitting the planet and the disruption it might cause. I reminded him that whenever a new technology is introduced, there will be some down sides, but that the benefits outweigh the potential problems. Every car that is sold carries with it the possibility of killing its occupants. But the benefits of transportation far outweigh the potential risks.

He's also concerned about his personal life. He enjoys his simple life, and doesn't necessarily savor the idea of being thrust into the limelight.

He thinks of all those guys who have been working on things like this over the years, but to no avail. I would think they would be grateful to see something actually working, vindicating what they were pursuing. Yes, there might be some jealously, wishing they had been first, but overall there will a sense of collective accomplishment, and a thrill for the future as this technology is characterized, optimized,and implemented into practical embodiments."

Quote from Sterling

lol

The thing is... the last video showed everything you need to know. He used the end of a pen for the spacing, for God's sake. Mylow gave the gap ratios, anyone should easily be able to use those magnets to make a motor now. If they can't, and specifically if they don't get that pendulum cogging effect, then the phenomenon is unique to.... Chicago...

nyctuber · « **Reply #278 on:** May 13, 2009, 07:58:29 PM »

Just wanted to point out that a plastic hasn't been disproven as a viable platter material. Mylow apparently decided the magnets used with Sterling's plastic-on aluminum setup would not work due to their small size.

chrisC · « **Reply #279 on:** May 13, 2009, 08:25:41 PM »

Quote from: markdansie on May 13, 2009, 07:32:16 PM

What a cop out

" I just got off the phone with Mylow.
He's out working right now.
From his description, he definitely has acceleration with just 6 magnets. He said after four magnets, he started noticing something "weird", and even with five magnets, it pulled in, thrust past the stator, and made it all the way around to do it again. With six magnets, it was accelerating until the assembly was shaking to the point that he stopped it lest it be damaged or fall apart.

It kind of has him freaked out, and he's hesitant to post a video showing it. He's concerned about the ramifications of this hitting the planet and the disruption it might cause. ......"

Quote from Sterling

Er, I thought that soap episode was declared 'over'. Are we having a new season?

cheers
chrisC

TinselKoala · « **Reply #280 on:** May 13, 2009, 08:51:18 PM »

Quote from: Cloxxki on May 13, 2009, 06:32:34 PM

Instant rich?
1W useful output per 2lb of machinery perhaps?
Did anyone calculate the power needed to reach such rpm's in that way? I bet your breathe is hardly any weaker.
If Mylow would sell his (when proven) setups, stator assembly firmly locked in place, that might get some dollar. Each next unit less, though.

You clearly don't get it, but that's not surprising. I have already detailed several ways in which a device, just like Mylow's with no scaling up, that creates angular momentum from nothing, could be used effectively in many ways that do not require drawing power off the disk.
For example, you might like to research how attitude is controlled on interplanetary spacecraft, and how this device would revolutionize that field, just as it is.
Plus, that "one watt per kilogram" is FREE. So you can just build a bunch of them, store the FREE energy and release it at much higher power levels whenever you want. (Once the initial cost of making the device is recovered, that is.)

Justalabrat · « **Reply #281 on:** May 14, 2009, 01:47:32 AM »

Another replicator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOO7VpOwNEM

Justalabrat · « **Reply #282 on:** May 14, 2009, 01:49:04 AM »

And another replicator!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxWwTJ2iqzM

chrisC · « **Reply #283 on:** May 14, 2009, 01:51:38 AM »

Quote from: Justalabrat on May 14, 2009, 01:47:32 AM

Another replicator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOO7VpOwNEM

woo. woo! Good stuff. Looks like if they have more magnets, maybe MyLow can retire from doing demos!

cheers
chrisC

TinselKoala · « **Reply #284 on:** May 14, 2009, 03:11:51 AM »

Unbelievable!

He pushes it with Mr Hand, it clearly slows down, and he exclaims "It's working!"

"How can I lose, with the stuff I use?"

I challenge these competent and honest, but misguided replicators, to use a standard repeatable starting system, take some real data, and tell me if ANY magnet configuration they come up with will beat an equally weighted disk with NO magnets.

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