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Offline BEP

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #465 on: May 26, 2009, 03:37:23 AM »
yes. Amazing what a little video enhancement will do when you know what you are looking for and what you wish to enhance.

In the overhead shots it shows the string passing either over or under the horizontal channel of the stator support.

In the last photo it is quite clear the string is either outside the same section or going right through it.

That Mylow was quite a genius. He must have made the fishing line appear in different locations just by the angle of view. More likely, he developed a way to pass fishing line right through the aluminum channel just like it wasn't there.
Now that is something I would like to replicate!

@markdansie,

Are you trying to replicate the fishing line in two locations at once or are you trying to make the string pass through aluminum with no holes?

Either way I would like to view your build.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2009, 04:29:55 AM by BEP »

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #465 on: May 26, 2009, 03:37:23 AM »

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« Reply #466 on: May 26, 2009, 06:05:48 AM »
I am not doing a Sterling here, I recieve nothing. However my friend purchased a lot of magnets (over 1500) to do a lot of replication work and to help out others. After the fake video's were revealed he was to say the least a little out of pocket.
I hope I am not breaking any rules here but I am pasting the details and costs and a contact. I am sure they will package up the types of magnets any way you want them.
Mark

In looking over the many magnets we purchased, we can offer 2 different kits, one for the 18 “ disk motor which Mylow was demoing and testing, and using for his instructional videos, (most often with only 6 bar rotor magnets and 2 horseshoe stator magnets); and a New Second kit with magnets like the larger bar magnets Mylow shows in his latest ‘apology’ video, with the smaller dia. disk (although not free-running).

 The initial ‘Traditional’ kit will include the following magnets:

36   CB65 ceramic bar magnets - .393 x .400 x 1.875 “
 2    HS 811N Alnico horseshoe magnets
30   smaller ceramic bar magnets .390 x .25 x 2.0 “
 10  thin multipole ceramic magnets .125 x .75 x 1.95 “

The cost for this 78 magnet kit is $39 + $6 for postage – sent by fixed price priority mail


The ‘NEW Kit‘  will include the following (awaiting verification from Mylow):

15  CB60N larger ceramic bar magnets - .393 x .875 x 1.875”
  2  CB702N Hi power Ceramic bar magnets  .5 x 1.0 x2.0”
20  Small ceramic bar magnets .390 x .25 x 2.0 “
 2  CER5 Ceramic donut ring magnets 1.77 OD x .866 ID x .314T

The cost for this 39 magnet kit is $19 + $6 for postage – sent via fixed price priority mail

If anyone wants both kits the cost is $55 plus $7.50 postage = total of $62.50 for 117 magnets

Delivery time is approx 5 days

These items are available for purchase in the US only, via my son Steve @ rugbysteve@aol.com

He accepts paypal and checks, only.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #467 on: May 29, 2009, 08:36:39 PM »

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #468 on: June 03, 2009, 03:20:05 PM »
@md

I'll answer you in this Discussion thread since this is about builds, etc.
Besides, what's the rush. It's not like these wheels are going anywhere and since Mylow has now been officially declared a complete and total fake, the heat is off all us builders to try and prove a point. I mean since Mylows wheel is a fake, what exactly do you want us to prove to you. So please, just relax and enjoy the scenery. lol

@All

Anyways, at this time I am still using my neos cause my Allmagnetics order just cleared Canadian Customs today so I should be receiving them tomorrow. (Fingers crossed). Allmagnetics had to hold my order (over 250 magnets) for over a week cause one magnet was back-ordered plus the transport time between Canada and USA is as usual, slow. Another one of the main stator magnets is B/O'd till end of June or July but I got a good selection of others to test.

I now have two big crescent magnets taken from a dc motor using the procedure I posted earlier, but the polarities are through the thickness and not through the length, just like Mylow had. I'll see if I can shock them (high voltage capacitor discharge) with a center wound thick wire coil and see if the poles can shift or what. HJ put neos on the ends of his crescent magnets to get the polarities he needed. Hey, that's not fair. lol

Just with neos and a large set of round ceramic magnets as a stator the most my wheel can make so far is about 2 turns from one repulsive start, which is pretty good. You can imagine and actually see through the erratic advancements those fields pulling and pushing every way as the wheel advances slowly one segment at a time.

This neo set-up is great because I have been able to try a wide variety of magnet positions quickly and see the differences. I am sure there is some better configs and will continue with these neos for now. I'll start by populating my 1/2" wheel with the new magnets and switch the plates to tests one or the other.

But one of my main studies will be to understand the differences between the N/N and S/S repulsive forces, because they are not the same. I can do this easily with these neos by just flipping them over to S/S on one half of the wheel to see the differences between the other half that has all N/N. I am looking to figure out a way to make a more controlled environment for these studies because I think the key to all this will be the understanding that there are a minimum of four main forces at play here, N/S, S/N, N/N and S/S. The N/S and S/N would seem like the same thing but it is not. I describe it in this way to identify the attractive forces from the stator N to the rotor S and then also the attractive forces from the rotor N to the stator S. Mix this with the N/N and S/S fields that push against each other there is some definite turbulence that has to happen for the stator to turn the wheel in the way it is doing. Otherwise no forward movement would ever be possible.

If you had 10 micro-flux sensors placing 5 on one rotor and 5 on the stator and plot the flux fluctuations to see how the fields interact. If you had 50 sensors, you could plot one stator and 9 rotors. That would be the ultimate way to see this thing interact.

Below is an image of magnetic vortex from HJ's web site or somewhere. If you look at the top left image, see those short blue lines make a clear center row going from the left tip to the right tip.

Now look at a grab I took from Mylows Video #40 where he put that iron powder screen next to the turning rotors. Hmmmmmm.

Anyways lots to learn and more fun to come.

This is going to be the best part of this whole Mylow story. Playing with the wheel. I sincerely hope those that have their builds do not give up. I will post my build stuff, theories and observations here in this thread so if there are others that are doing some continued research on this, don't hold back. I will also make some youtubes when I work out the video stuff. There is a whole world of possibilities with such a wheel. Eventually I'll have some coil ideas to add in some other tests. Also thinking of putting the stator on a gyro dual shaft stabilized by a non-magnetic pendulum or counter weight. See if some gravity can help the "for every action/reaction theory". There is no hurry here for me because I still have 1/2 of my work that I do on my TPU builds (yes @otto).

@queue and others.

If you have channel rotors that you will not be using and want to sell them, let me know.

@Mylow

If you read this, (which I doubt) too bad you had to fake those videos. A real bummer. I think you should at least publicly excuse yourself at least to Mrs. Howard Johnson for creating such a commotion for her at her age, she does not deserve such stress. I am sure she will appreciate it and you will feel much better and eventually put this whole thing behind you, if that is possible at this stage I don't know and cannot promise anything. But, if you excuse yourself to her publicly, then and only then would I welcome you to come to this ONE Discussion thread so we can talk magnets and wheels. No cats or birds allowed here. I'll take care of the flak. I'll even talk to the web site owner to make sure no one comes in to muddle the discussions. This is exactly what we should have been doing from day one, talking magnets and wheels. But don't get me wrong. If you come here to shoot more s*&t, then we will know rather quickly and boot you out for good. Last chance.

@all

No comments from others required on this thread. I think everyone got the point. I know it is tempting but please contain your enthusiasms and respond on the main thread that is still open for now. No smart remarks on this thread. Any will be removed along with the complete post and not just editing out the crap. I have no time to babysit these threads anymore and most of the Mylow threads will be locked soon. I want to get back to what I like doing best and that is, building things and testing things and looking and helping other builders great efforts on this forum. Also, if someone wants to open a new thread for a new device disclosure, we can open it in the Mylow topic and keep it under moderated from day one, but you must send me a PM request first.

@md

As for your last remark, don't try and put me on the spot because it won't work. I have nothing to excuse myself for trying to run a respectable forum regardless of fake or not, does not justify what happened here. The whole story will be locked in the threads for anyone to make their own determinations. One member is already banned and the clicker is still counting.

So maybe I should ask you what you are building these days or is this a one way street.

@all again

I have gotten direct e-mails from some members and even guests to this forum stating that they are not convinced about the first wheel being faked, especially Video 6. OK, OK. Look, just understand that at this point it is clear that Mylow is a very good liar and all his wheels are fakes. His heart may be in magnets but his method is not. He needs a serious reality check. Most everyone already does believe this so the story about real or fake is a dead issue. Let's just go with that. But I leave it to you builders to personally make your own judgment call on this and act accordingly (lol), but I won't be waiting on threads to discuss this question indefinitely. It is much simpler to consider this whole thing publicly as being fake, end of story. This frees builders from the stress of trying to prove a point. We do OU R&D and no point proving is required. Not any more since Mylow is a fake. All we can do is be better then him and keep things real. So just stick with your clear tests and honest observations. That should be enough for now.

Now, one day, if and/or when someone here or elsewhere can prove the contrary, then fine. JUST MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT WRONG before you spill the beans. PLEASE. Maybe invest in a rhino suit first cause you will need the extra skin protection. lol

And as usual.
Keep the faith. Oops, wrong show. Sorry Tavis.

Uhhhh.
Back to work.
Ahhhhhh, that's better. lol

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #469 on: June 05, 2009, 02:31:27 PM »
@ wattsup,
so why were all the other threads locked up?? I am still awaiting for your replication. You bullied people around here, made a fool of yourself and now you have gone power crazy and locked up threads you didnt even start.
Covering your embarresment????
Look we all make mistakes and you were sucked in like many others. Learn from this...don't become a dumb ass.
I would like to know where Steffan stands on this.
PS I will be away for a week. Another trip.
Keep up the good work everyone
Mark

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #470 on: June 05, 2009, 02:41:41 PM »
Wattsup
Thanks for the focus !!

Chet

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #471 on: June 05, 2009, 04:27:39 PM »
@ wattsup,
so why were all the other threads locked up?? I am still awaiting for your replication. You bullied people around here, made a fool of yourself and now you have gone power crazy and locked up threads you didnt even start.
Covering your embarresment????
Look we all make mistakes and you were sucked in like many others. Learn from this...don't become a dumb ass.
I would like to know where Steffan stands on this.
PS I will be away for a week. Another trip.
Keep up the good work everyone
Mark
wattsup is the worst yet.
someone should inform Stephan.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #472 on: June 05, 2009, 06:15:58 PM »
@md

Quit barking up the wrong tree. Your answer is one post before your last one if you bothered to look. Enough said.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #473 on: June 05, 2009, 08:05:08 PM »
Just curious.. What's the point of discussing the Mylow magnet motor now?


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« Reply #474 on: June 05, 2009, 09:05:03 PM »
@ wattsup
I did go back and read your previous note. Thank you for directing me there.
1. My point still stands...what right do you have to lock up threads started by other people.
2. Your language and abuse of others I found very offensive...so who is monitoring you.
3. I have a lot of builds and I travel the world validating devices. I also assist many developers. In fact I am about to head overseas this morning and on the way to the airport am delivering a $1400 alternator I am donating to an inventor who has been working on an electro magnetic motor for several years. i will post something if i have something usefull to share.The majority of serious developers don't even post here...some observe. The is a whole world going on in the background that you would be supprised at. The last project I evaluated had over 300k sunk into it. The police were looking for the inventor yesterday to lay charges. Funily enough he disappered with all the money...and of course it was a fake
4. You show liitle respect for people who do a lot of research and work like TK & ChrisC. Their knowledge and intellegence is much appreciated by many. Through there efforts and a few others the likes of the Mylow's get exposed. There are many others who observe this forum but because of the likes of people like you and your abusive attitude choose to observe rather than post.
5. So you act as spokes person for everyone...you are entitled to you opinion and it should be respected. However what right do you have to censor, edit, abuse and threaten others.
6. Did Steffan give you permission to do this? if so please have him explain this to all of us why a person like you has been given absolute power over other peoples threads.

Woof Woof
Mark


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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #475 on: June 06, 2009, 03:16:33 AM »
Just curious.. What's the point of discussing the Mylow magnet motor now?


I would agree that there isn't really much point of discussing the Mylow motor version at this point..... at the very least, not from a design standpoint. Opinions could differ however and do so with varying amounts of merit. The Mylow motor saga, but not the motor itself teaches us some things. I for one have noticed a profound sobering of the related community ever since that dim witted sociospastic moron who can hardly read or write, took many of us on this little ride.

The idea that Mylow had is far from being a viable device in it's present form of design. I do however believe more than very sincerely that the concept of a magnetic motor is more than plausible. It is so unfortunate that Mylow has been instrumental in alienating the faith of those who hold the key. This does not mean that the FE community cannot produce a working model but just means that we have to regenerate a lot of work that had already been done by Johnson and others. Things would be so much easier if we had certain bits of information that already exists. Now it appears that 'we', someone, will have to discover it all over again. This may take some time but relative to the time which has already passed it is just a small amount of time.

Perhaps we should start a thread as a depository only, where we can lay all the frauds to rest. Beating up this Mylow issue serves no positive purpose for those of us who have already licked our wounds and are resolved to carry on with our journey. There are those who will take care of Mylow himself.

We may yet be allowed to access the archives of Johnson. I believe that Bedini may have enough information but for reasons I soon intend to state but  cannot state right now, it is very likely that you will not see him bring it forth any time soon.

I will add to this as soon as I catch my breath.




« Last Edit: June 06, 2009, 03:49:44 AM by ALFPARTS »

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #476 on: June 06, 2009, 05:32:44 AM »
@md

Quit barking up the wrong tree. Your answer is one post before your last one if you bothered to look. Enough said.

Seriously, you're THE ONE still barking up the wrong tree. Surprise us with your working MyLow motor, or just keep your profile LOW, as in myLOW! You've talked too much already with nothing to show for.

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« Reply #477 on: June 06, 2009, 12:36:19 PM »
 I agree a 100% alfparts.
 Was it you who lives below the Tenn. line or was some one ells. Some one is in birmingham.
 I have been packing up stuff for a few weeks to relocate so most of my work is on hold. It was not easy to pack everything up and even harder to part with some of it. When i get settled in hopefully before august I can restart but if it takes as long to unpack and get organized again it could be longer.
   I really need to stop being such a pack rat or find a junk yard to buy with a home near it.lol

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« Reply #478 on: June 06, 2009, 03:33:03 PM »
Seriously, you're THE ONE still barking up the wrong tree. Surprise us with your working MyLow motor, or just keep your profile LOW, as in myLOW! You've talked too much already with nothing to show for.

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There are so many caustic people on this forum. Give the man a chance. It's not like this is his full time job!

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« Reply #479 on: June 06, 2009, 03:41:35 PM »
I agree a 100% alfparts.
 Was it you who lives below the Tenn. line or was some one ells. Some one is in birmingham.
 I have been packing up stuff for a few weeks to relocate so most of my work is on hold. It was not easy to pack everything up and even harder to part with some of it. When i get settled in hopefully before august I can restart but if it takes as long to unpack and get organized again it could be longer.
   I really need to stop being such a pack rat or find a junk yard to buy with a home near it.lol

Ahh, you can come over and put it in my backyard. I don't think that anybody will notice and even if they do, they want care. Also we can store a lot of it in the house since there is nobody living there except for Micky. That'll give us another 3000 sq feet but ya might have to help me throw out all the household stuff.

 I don't live in Tennessee. I live in Blacksburg right up the street from Howard's house.

 

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