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Author Topic: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion  (Read 126658 times)

Offline BEP

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #435 on: May 24, 2009, 02:26:48 AM »
For anyone giving up on this attempt AND if you have obtained materials for this replication which match the visual and verbal descriptions from Mylow- I am willing to consider purchasing your materials.

Please send the specs and asking price for each item. A pic of the disk will be appreciated.

Send this via PM.

Any message sent or posted repeating the negative ideas, comments and foul language we've sufferred in the echo chamber will cause me to exercise the only power I have here. You will be added to my ignore list (everybody scared now?)     :o

I reserve the right to make an offer to those I choose based upon overall cost and how close the material is to what was originally described.

I am not interested in anything after the channel magnet videos.

Don't bother asking 'why?'.

@Wattsup

I realize this request will cause even more of the flies from the other pile to race towards this thread. I am sorry for that.

Judging by recent posts perhaps another method of sharing information is worth considering?



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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #435 on: May 24, 2009, 02:26:48 AM »

Offline RunningBare

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #436 on: May 24, 2009, 02:35:25 AM »
Would that be covert?
Just kidding with ya, but enjoy the tinkering, I do.
Judging by recent posts perhaps another method of sharing information is worth considering?

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #437 on: May 24, 2009, 03:52:19 AM »
For anyone giving up on this attempt AND if you have obtained materials for this replication which match the visual and verbal descriptions from Mylow- I am willing to consider purchasing your materials.

Please send the specs and asking price for each item. A pic of the disk will be appreciated.

Send this via PM.

Any message sent or posted repeating the negative ideas, comments and foul language we've sufferred in the echo chamber will cause me to exercise the only power I have here. You will be added to my ignore list (everybody scared now?)     :o

I reserve the right to make an offer to those I choose based upon overall cost and how close the material is to what was originally described.

I am not interested in anything after the channel magnet videos.

Don't bother asking 'why?'.

@Wattsup

I realize this request will cause even more of the flies from the other pile to race towards this thread. I am sorry for that.

Judging by recent posts perhaps another method of sharing information is worth considering?

I have a nice roll of monofilament line I could let you have for $5.  ;D

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #437 on: May 24, 2009, 03:52:19 AM »
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Offline ellubpt

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #438 on: May 24, 2009, 05:14:26 AM »
I have 3 6061 T6 alum platters. I was going to make them into hats ,but, I am keeping for future projects.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #439 on: May 24, 2009, 05:32:14 AM »
Very nice setup wattsup!

Puts mine to shame.

Take care.

nap

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #439 on: May 24, 2009, 05:32:14 AM »
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Offline X00013

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #440 on: May 24, 2009, 05:58:34 AM »
@ watts, whats ur tube handle? I look foward to vids!!

Offline nyctuber

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #441 on: May 24, 2009, 06:17:57 AM »
This is nuts, man.

The fishing line is clearly visible in the early videos. 

Nevermind the fact that Mylow's setup had zero to do with HJ's motor.

It superficially resembled it.

I wonder if anyone is even aware of the composition of the magnets in the stonehenge picture.

I'll give you a hint: Take a look at the Train, or the Gate, or even the flat shaded Domino setup.

HJ's most basic principle was magnetic shading (shorting out spins on a pole)

This is how he was able to make an N stator become attracted to an N gate. The spins were altered, the stator car was  essentially fooled into thinking N was S, based on altered spins.

It seems to prove his theory that magnetic lines of force are not as we're taught, due to his assertion that iron filings become magnets themselves and show inaccurate flux lines.

Now take a look at the Train Bedini has.

Any idea how complicated that is?

HJ uses multiple shaded poles, corner angle spins into a back megnet, deflected by rubber magnet to the following group of magnets, angles held in place by wood wedges.

His wheel, we know nothing about.

What does it all mean? It means that HJ used spintronics and pole shading, trying to utilize momentary spin bursts as a propulsive force.

It-has-zero-to-do-with-what-Mylow-did.




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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #441 on: May 24, 2009, 06:17:57 AM »
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Offline Omega_0

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #442 on: May 24, 2009, 07:11:33 AM »
Very nice wheel Wattsup... what magnets do you have ?

I'm still trying various configs on my wheel just bcz its fun !
I read the HJ book - secret world of magnets, its a small book (40 pages) and contains mostly pics of his plots. He clearly did some original research. The double vortex and all.

But .... (there's always a but), he never says you can get free energy or perpetual motion out of magnets. He only says that magnets can provide motive force (like the train etc), which is obvious.

The book is on scribd.com, if anyone likes to read. (perhaps an illegal copy, sorry if its against forum policies. such things must be free.)

Offline markdansie

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #443 on: May 24, 2009, 07:48:52 AM »
Thanks Milo for finding this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzC4TrPHkzg

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #443 on: May 24, 2009, 07:48:52 AM »
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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #444 on: May 24, 2009, 04:17:29 PM »
@BEP

Don't buy up all the mags on the market will y'a. Just jock'in.
Glad to see you have some interest in this.

You know what, I thought this magnet thingy would be a relaxing change from TPU overdosing but I guess I was very wrong. Well half wrong. The magnets are relaxing but this whole story was a little more then most had gambled for. So the only solution is just play with the magnets cause that IS relaxing and very interesting.

If there are guys in Canada that have channel rotors or other that they want to sell let me know also. If I can help someone that feels they have been duped, no problem if it fits into my mag requirements.

@Omega_0

Thanks for your post.

Well I have lots of bar magnets and horseshoe magnets that should be arriving hope early this week, but in the interim I am just playing around with my neos which is great because I don't have to glue them. Three on top and one from the bottom holds them well in place and you can slide them every way you want to study many positioning effects. All north up. lol

Tried neos as stator but neo on neo is just too strong for this kin d of set-up.

I am also using hard drive magnets in between the segments to brake the sticky and it works. I also have hard drive magnets with the magnet removed to use just the backing. I will also boil a few small DC motor chassis to loosen off the magnets and try them.

There are so many ways to do this. Can't wait to get my horseshoes cause that will open up so many news ways of testing.

The photo below shows neos, hard drive mags and my stator is a bunch of round magnets held together all placed as one magnet secured on my microphone stand for quick and easy stator placements. I will also try these with the magnets placed in a continuous repulsion mode and see how they work out.

I managed so far to get 2 1/2 rotations from just letting it go out of a repulsion state. I still have to work out the video thing since my last camcorder is no longer. I purchased a web cam but I find the image is not that great.

Oh, once I had a good set-up I then also took my second wheel which is 1/2" and place it on top of the the populated 1/4" wheel. This allowed me to place my stator very close to the top wheel to effect the magnets in an otherwise impossible closeness. The top plate acts like a refraction medium mixing up the fields but still keep the forward movement.

@all

OK, here is a LAST warning. If this thread is to continue, there will be no more negative posts or smart remarks here. This is for builders and side-testers and magnetic theories to post their builds and results. Let's keep it that way please. Any undue negativism of guys with repeated lectures that we are wasting our time chasing after something that will never happen will simply be removed from now on. Now exceptions.

Also, the main thread will soon be locked since there is no point leaving it open. I think everything that had to be said is said.

Mylow will probably only re-surface again once this whole storm settles down. I think I will ask @stefan if we can open up a special locked thread that only Mylow and a few others (known builders) can post to. That way he can come in and put his comments without being blasted and we could get some more direct insight. Anyways time will tell how all this pans out.

Offline ezzob

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #445 on: May 24, 2009, 07:48:06 PM »
J.Naudin talk about imbalance of the forces in The Johnson's permanent magnetic motor.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/johnmot.htm

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #445 on: May 24, 2009, 07:48:06 PM »
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Offline Lakes

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #446 on: May 24, 2009, 10:54:01 PM »
I would never have thought of boiling speakers /motors to get the magnets out of them!
I must try that... :)

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #447 on: May 24, 2009, 11:09:26 PM »

The Mylow mystery clarified:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU8_K4TAO4&NR=1


On a more serious note, I think I read somewhere that exposure to heat weakens magnets...I can't recall how much though.

Regards...


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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #448 on: May 24, 2009, 11:32:29 PM »
The Mylow mystery clarified:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU8_K4TAO4&NR=1


On a more serious note, I think I read somewhere that exposure to heat weakens magnets...I can't recall how much though.

Regards...

Cap:

My understanding is that as long as you don't get them up to their Curie temperature, it is fine.  I think this temperature varies with different magnet materials but for the ones we used to machine, it was pretty high, around 300 C.


Here is a link to a chart of these temperatures:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/tables/curie.html

Bill

Offline markdansie

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #449 on: May 25, 2009, 12:16:16 AM »
Will polls be allowed or just strickly technical talk?
http://www.99polls.com/poll_66574

Will people, without being rude be allowed to give critical reviews of the devices?

I am being polite as I agree if this is your thread, then you have the right to set the rules.

I know a cheap source of magnets if anybody wants some . The person have enough for 16 complete sets of mylow motors. He bought them prior to the revealing Mylow tapes. he is open to offers.
If anyone is interested I will get him to come here so people can contact him.

Kind Regards
Mark

 

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