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Author Topic: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion  (Read 127575 times)

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #375 on: May 17, 2009, 07:51:19 PM »
Cloxxki

 Once you are in patent pending status. It is time to shout it from the mountain tops.

You said
>>It takes one kind of original thinking to get to inventions, and another to use them for your personal gain.<<

 No one can do it alone. So you pick your friends and partners carefully. They have all already been picked. For when the time comes.

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« Reply #376 on: May 17, 2009, 08:15:51 PM »
TK is doing real science, that is the skeptical part of science. It is obvious that a lot of people will waste time and  money on something that science says is not possible. What would you say to TK then?
I love science and mylow is demeaning it.
Is the whole point of this forum not about unconventional science? If you want possible science you are on the wrong forum, are you not?

Offline Cloxxki

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« Reply #377 on: May 17, 2009, 08:23:18 PM »
I agree. The sceptical science in this field has been completed.
Big inventions were made by chance, or by looking past the horizon of the known.

It would at this stage be more productive (until Mylow finally allows someone to investigate his working motors) to find out which priciples could be used to obtain a result like Mylow's, rather than to tinker with rundown graphs and comparing them with his. If Mylow's magnets when grouped act as a group, you can't expect individual magnets to behave as such in specific places.

If Mylow should turn out to not quite have it yet, conventional science will not help this cause any further. If was given a chance for centuries. Some free thinkers with expertise in this field, when cooperating efficiently, can in a short time accomplish a lot.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #378 on: May 17, 2009, 08:23:49 PM »
Is the whole point of this forum not about unconventional science? If you want possible science you are on the wrong forum, are you not?

Well, it could be like an unconventional parachute. You know, it doesn't open.

Offline utilitarian

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« Reply #379 on: May 17, 2009, 08:30:39 PM »
Is the whole point of this forum not about unconventional science? If you want possible science you are on the wrong forum, are you not?

Is unconventional science where you can discard the scientific method, and proclaim something as true based on "feelings?"  If that is the case, you cannot call it science at all.  It is pseudoscience.

The essence of scientific research, however bleeding edge, is the rigorous scientific method.  You have to challenge every new claim until it can withstand all attacks.  I don't know why people don't get that.

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Offline AquariuZ

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #380 on: May 17, 2009, 08:32:22 PM »
Well, it could be like an unconventional parachute. You know, it doesn't open.

"Minds are like parachutes - they work best when open"

...from the signature of one of the founding engineers of Silicon Graphics, Inc.


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« Reply #381 on: May 17, 2009, 08:46:00 PM »
Well, it could be like an unconventional parachute. You know, it doesn't open.
That is proven science based on factual data, this forum is about the unknown science or am I mistaken?

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Offline DHCP

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« Reply #382 on: May 17, 2009, 09:24:37 PM »
Is unconventional science where you can discard the scientific method, and proclaim something as true based on "feelings?"  If that is the case, you cannot call it science at all.  It is pseudoscience.

The essence of scientific research, however bleeding edge, is the rigorous scientific method.  You have to challenge every new claim until it can withstand all attacks.  I don't know why people don't get that.
All unproven science IMO unless proven is pseudoscience if science has no answers it make's them up to fill the gaps & call's it therory science is partly just belief until proven, much the same as religion

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« Reply #383 on: May 17, 2009, 10:23:09 PM »
Is the whole point of this forum not about unconventional science? If you want possible science you are on the wrong forum, are you not?
Science can't be labeled conventional or unconventional. Science is science.
If you think you can do without science then you are in the wrong forum.

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« Reply #384 on: May 17, 2009, 10:34:21 PM »
Science can't be labeled conventional or unconventional. Science is science.
If you think you can do without science then you are in the wrong forum.
Is this forum not called "overunity" explain the science behind that!
I can not "do without science" but science has not got all the answers....yet, have you?

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #385 on: May 17, 2009, 10:42:31 PM »
That is proven science based on factual data...

Conversely do you mean this forum is like unknown science based on false data?

I think you are misunderstanding the fundamentals of science. It is a process or methodology not a monolithic thing. It's litany keeps evolving, expanding and modifying itself in accordance with new discoveries that are falsified, verified and replicated. If all of the information being dealt with is factual then the criteria for being addressed by science is an imminent possibility. There is nothing about free energy or over unity that cannot be dealt with by science unless you enter the realm of magic or pseudoscience. As to arguments over scientific sacred cows they are all facing the same test by falsification, verification and replication. In fact as the history of science shows, nothing is sacred that cannot be disproved on that basis.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #386 on: May 17, 2009, 11:14:26 PM »
Conversely do you mean this forum is like unknown science based on false data?

I think you are misunderstanding the fundamentals of science. It is a process or methodology not a monolithic thing. It's litany keeps evolving, expanding and modifying itself in accordance with new discoveries that are falsified, verified and replicated. If all of the information being dealt with is factual then the criteria for being addressed by science is an imminent possibility. There is nothing about free energy or over unity that cannot be dealt with by science unless you enter the realm of magic or pseudoscience. As to arguments over scientific sacred cows they are all facing the same test by falsification, verification and replication. In fact as the history of science shows, nothing is sacred that cannot be disproved on that basis.
What?
I don't mind admitting I have no idea what you are on about, I simply tryed to state if you jump out of a plane with no shoot there is a high chance you won't survive as proved by physics & the fact's that not many do??
What has this got to do with OU?

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #387 on: May 17, 2009, 11:37:02 PM »
What?
I don't mind admitting I have no idea what you are on about, I simply tryed to state if you jump out of a plane with no shoot there is a high chance you won't survive as proved by physics & the fact's that not many do??
What has this got to do with OU?

Everything.

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #388 on: May 18, 2009, 03:45:17 AM »
@AB Hammer

I second BEPs post.

Also, I think the guy saying this is a homopolar motor is totally wrong. Grease no grease, the drive is the magnets. I do not believe or can even comprehend how grease in a bearing will cause a rotational motion on the wheel. Actually, if Mylow has grease in his bearing, this will hinder rotation due to the friction at such low torque values. I just had that experience. lol

@wattsup

Actually, (and I think you know this) a roller bearing can act similar to a planetary gear - also like a clutch. I think he is right on the possibility but doubt it was used this way here.

What I don't understand  is I thought Mylow's bearing had the seals in it. Don't people know that is some serious drag? - far more than the grease!

@AB

I have no doubts about your position in this field. I have always read your posts with interest but you are beyond me in the gravity game  :)

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #389 on: May 18, 2009, 01:04:14 PM »
BTW:

When you look at rotational speed from an angle the plot will show as a sine wave. Normally this has nothing to do with wobble or imbalance when viewing from a compressed video.

When you correct for the angle the speed plot is a fairly smooth increasing ramp. The burst in speed then should be seen correctly then with a gradual decrease in speed until passing under the stator again.

I don't know which will win out as they are not compatible... the string theory or the elliptical movement of the dot theory.

Some peeps are starting to see how aluminum fits into this.

Last thoughts for a while. I'm scheduled to be on a flight today and gone for some time.. Good Luck to the builders All!


 

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