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Author Topic: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion  (Read 168669 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #330 on: May 16, 2009, 10:25:59 PM »
Not as close as mine, in the sense of "almost running."
WHY WHY WHY do people not show the comparison testing?
How can you possibly tell if your rig is working or not, if you keep pushing it by hand?
I simply do not understand.


No, wait, I think I do. It is because an honest comparison will reveal things you do NOT want to know.

Cloxxki

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #331 on: May 16, 2009, 10:38:58 PM »
Closest one yet
So close, it makes Mylow's claims quite a bit more plausible. Someone is going to get it done. Like Mylow did, or didn't. Hopefully someone who'll show it to others will be the first to manage.

TinselKoala

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #332 on: May 16, 2009, 10:48:14 PM »
Compare the rundown times of that "close" replication with and without the stator magnet in place, from say 50 RPM. Post the results. Or explain why not.
Or if you don't have an accurate tachometer or oscilloscope, you can impart a known force to start the disk, from a "valley", using a string and a weight and a stopwatch to time the rotation.
How does it compare, with and without the stator?
Why won't anyone but CLaNZeR and me do this simple thing?

TinselKoala

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #333 on: May 16, 2009, 10:50:43 PM »
So close, it makes Mylow's claims quite a bit more plausible. Someone is going to get it done. Like Mylow did, or didn't. Hopefully someone who'll show it to others will be the first to manage.

So close, it's Implausible. He says that he positioned his magnets "exactly" as Mylow showed with his micrometer. But Mylow measured his magnets to the hundredth of a millimeter.
I challenge anyone to reproduce Mylow's measurements on their disk, without special jigs and tooling. It is simply impossible to emplace anything that precisely by hand. Fourteen times.

nyctuber

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #334 on: May 16, 2009, 11:00:52 PM »
So close, it's Implausible. He says that he positioned his magnets "exactly" as Mylow showed with his micrometer. But Mylow measured his magnets to the hundredth of a millimeter.
I challenge anyone to reproduce Mylow's measurements on their disk, without special jigs and tooling. It is simply impossible to emplace anything that precisely by hand. Fourteen times.

Listen to what he says about that in the newest video

RunningBare

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #335 on: May 16, 2009, 11:07:43 PM »
Do you think some of them will catch on?, I'm kinda betting not.

Listen to what he says about that in the newest video

nyctuber

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #336 on: May 16, 2009, 11:17:21 PM »
Do you think some of them will catch on?, I'm kinda betting not.

Don't know, but if this goes on much longer i'm checking into a nice rubber room.

TinselKoala

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #337 on: May 17, 2009, 01:02:36 AM »
Don't know, but if this goes on much longer i'm checking into a nice rubber room.

Well, this probably won't help, then. I'm uploading another "how he might have done it" video right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mlfsx1ZaT0

nyctuber

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #338 on: May 17, 2009, 01:17:47 AM »
Well, this probably won't help, then. I'm uploading another "how he might have done it" video right now.

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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #339 on: May 17, 2009, 01:18:58 AM »

Think Model 'T' - unbalanced flywheel - John Keeley - Ed Leedskalnin's Model 'T' flywheel assembly.

Regards...


nyctuber

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #340 on: May 17, 2009, 01:30:10 AM »
Well, this probably won't help, then. I'm uploading another "how he might have done it" video right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mlfsx1ZaT0

If we accuse you of not using trickery, will you threaten to quit?  :D

Pirate88179

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #341 on: May 17, 2009, 01:31:42 AM »
TK:

Nice video.  Yet another possibility added to the list.  So now, when some say there is no way it could be faked, at least there are several answers out there.

Bill

TinselKoala

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #342 on: May 17, 2009, 01:33:10 AM »
Think Model 'T' - unbalanced flywheel - John Keeley - Ed Leedskalnin's Model 'T' flywheel assembly.

Regards...

Keeley used compressed air, Leedskalnin used blocks, tackles, singletrees, tripods. They both were observed doing it, in spite of the legends.
But they both did some really nice artwork, IMHO.

TinselKoala

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #343 on: May 17, 2009, 02:08:11 AM »
Please watch the last minute or so of this video. 7:35 is a good place to start. Tony's not such a good actor. His delivery is obviously rehearsed and forced.
Mylow has to feed Tony the "equilibrium speed" line. Then shortly after Mylow immediately tells Tony to stop the disk, you hear a CLICKCLICK and he does, but does not let it go. Mylow urges him, then tells him it's OK to release it. Tony is reluctant. Then he finally releases it, and the disk moves slightly--Tony involuntarily reaches for it to stop it again.
This is rehearsed, it didn't play well due to the ad-libs, and Tony gave away the bacon at the end.
The disk is driven, not by the magnets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsURAlg9pPY&feature=channel

broli

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Re: MylowHJ Replication - Discussion
« Reply #344 on: May 17, 2009, 02:28:11 AM »
TK you sure lost any shred of respect I had for you. Anyone with common sense steps down and IGNORES something he doesn't believe in. But not you sir. You make it your soul purpose to do anything you can to bring the thing down that is threathning your believes. Your "religion" is so radical that it is a danger to the cause of this community.

I'm a bit enraged that you have so much equipment and potential and are doing nothing with it. Do everyone a favor and either quit on te mylow story and work on something contructive or leave this please.